[100% veg*n ] Living with vegans you're not actually related to...

July 11, 2002

That's fine for you but many of us find such diversity horrible, abhorrent,

disgusting etc. which is why we became vegans.

If you don't really hold those values very strongly and don't care much about

killing innocent animals and getting cancer from

cigarettes and prefer to hang out with people that foster this kind of thing who

don't care about the lives of other beings or the planet

then all the luck to you.

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quercusrobur2002

vegan-network

Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:02 AM

[100% veg*n ] Living with vegans you're not actually related to...

vegan-network, " irene_lucy " <irene.lucy@n...> wrote:

>

> Why did that sound like hell for you?

You prefer animal eaters and

> smokers over non-smoking vegans do you?

i just prefer people in all their diversity and with all their

differences and inconsistancies. To be surrounded by a bunch of

earnest vegans being full-on, ethically superior and checking each

others' footwear the whole time doesn't appeal to me at all! And

IIRC it was proposed to be a non-drinking community as well :-(

(or maybe I just made that assumption...)

July 11, 2002

LOL! THIS is the sort of thing which answers the question as to why

living with vegans would be hell ;-)

vegan-network, kiwi2000 <kiwi2000@o...> wrote:

> That's fine for you but many of us find such diversity horrible,

abhorrent, disgusting etc. which is why we became vegans.

> If you don't really hold those values very strongly and don't care

much about killing innocent animals and getting cancer from

> cigarettes and prefer to hang out with people that foster this

kind of thing who don't care about the lives of other beings or the

planet

> then all the luck to you.

July 11, 2002

nice one!!!

g

" Beneath the pavement, the beach "

>

> quercusrobur2002 [sMTP:grahamburnett]

> Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:04 PM

> vegan-network

> Re: [100% veg*n ] Living with vegans you're not actually

> related to...

>

> LOL! THIS is the sort of thing which answers the question as to why

> living with vegans would be hell ;-)

>

July 11, 2002

well graham, when i start veganville and its full of loud punx and has a big

garden space and a pyrate radio station, a brewery, and wot all, yer invited

hahahahah

>

>i just prefer people in all their diversity and with all their

>differences and inconsistancies. To be surrounded by a bunch of

>earnest vegans being full-on, ethically superior and checking each

>others' footwear the whole time doesn't appeal to me at all! And

>IIRC it was proposed to be a non-drinking community as well :-(

>(or maybe I just made that assumption...)

>

chel-sea!!!

ar sen al!!

sorry..that's about the limit of my football knowledge...tho, i did get stuck

above an irish bar in amsterdam when some sort of soccer thingee was going

on...blue and gold , blue and gold...screamin til 4 bloody AM..sheesh..didn't

they know some of us had to get up and rink in the morning??

teehee

fraggle

Many years ago I used to stay at a house in

>Coggeshall, Essex which was an intentional community bound together

>by the fact that they were all fans of Westham United! (I wasn't,

>but used to along with them to the games if I was staying there! It

>was wierd, instead of chanting 'Om Nama Shivaya' or whatever they'd

>all occasionally burst into choruses of 'I'm forver blowing bubbles'

> & 'You're gonna get your f****ing head kicked in!' (even tho there

>was nobody actually there)!

>They were all veggies as well, and I hasten to add that none of them

>were actually violent at all, they were all very friendly and gentle

>people... How did I get to meet such strange people? Years ago when

>i used to work in an office one of them used to work at the same

>desk as me! Variety is the spice of life...

>

>Cheers Graham

>

>To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

vegan-network-digest

>

July 11, 2002

can i get a weekend pass??!!

EBbrewpunx

vegan-network

7/11/02 4:10 PM

RE: [100% veg*n ] Living with vegans you're not actually related

to...

well graham, when i start veganville and its full of loud punx and has a

big garden space and a pyrate radio station, a brewery, and wot all, yer

invited

hahahahah

>

>i just prefer people in all their diversity and with all their

>differences and inconsistancies. To be surrounded by a bunch of

>earnest vegans being full-on, ethically superior and checking each

>others' footwear the whole time doesn't appeal to me at all! And

>IIRC it was proposed to be a non-drinking community as well :-(

>(or maybe I just made that assumption...)

>

chel-sea!!!

ar sen al!!

sorry..that's about the limit of my football knowledge...tho, i did get

stuck above an irish bar in amsterdam when some sort of soccer thingee

was going on...blue and gold , blue and gold...screamin til 4 bloody

AM..sheesh..didn't they know some of us had to get up and rink in the

morning??

teehee

fraggle

Many years ago I used to stay at a house in

>Coggeshall, Essex which was an intentional community bound together

>by the fact that they were all fans of Westham United! (I wasn't,

>but used to along with them to the games if I was staying there! It

>was wierd, instead of chanting 'Om Nama Shivaya' or whatever they'd

>all occasionally burst into choruses of 'I'm forver blowing bubbles'

> & 'You're gonna get your f****ing head kicked in!' (even tho there

>was nobody actually there)!

>They were all veggies as well, and I hasten to add that none of them

>were actually violent at all, they were all very friendly and gentle

>people... How did I get to meet such strange people? Years ago when

>i used to work in an office one of them used to work at the same

>desk as me! Variety is the spice of life...

>

>Cheers Graham

July 11, 2002

vegan-network, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> well graham, when i start veganville and its full of loud punx and

has a big garden space and a pyrate radio station, a brewery, and wot

all, yer invited

You on the other hand are a beer brother, Fraggle, and i guess that

makes us kind of related (cue 'dueling banjo's theme'...), so an

exception could be made here...

>

> chel-sea!!!

> ar sen al!!

>

> sorry..that's about the limit of my football knowledge...

Mine too...

July 11, 2002

wot is this, disneyland?

yeah..sure...wotever

i expect you to work in the garden and the roof top container jungle tho!!

might as well put ya to work!!

now, all i need is some money to get a warehouse.....a way that doesn't involve

ski masks and visits to banks....

hmmmmmm

fraggle

Gareth Pashley <gpashley wrote:

> can i get a weekend pass??!!

>

July 11, 2002

vegan-network, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> well graham, when i start veganville and its full of loud punx

can we have a chillout room playing Vaughn Williams and Transglobal

Underground as well??

July 11, 2002

umm

sure

you organize it tho, since i have no idea wot you are talking about...

weird british rave hippies

*rofl*

fraggle

" quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett wrote:

>vegan-network, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

>> well graham, when i start veganville and its full of loud punx

>

>can we have a chillout room playing Vaughn Williams and Transglobal

>Underground as well??

>

>To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

vegan-network-digest

>

July 11, 2002

are we suppose to walk down the street with arms around each others shoulders

singing off key angelic upstarts songs at the top of our lungs now?

fraggle

>You on the other hand are a beer brother, Fraggle, and i guess that

>makes us kind of related (cue 'dueling banjo's theme'...), so an

>exception could be made here...

>

>>

>> chel-sea!!!

>> ar sen al!!

>>

>> sorry..that's about the limit of my football knowledge...

>

>Mine too...

>

>To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

vegan-network-digest

>

July 11, 2002

vegan-network, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> are we suppose to walk down the street with arms around each

others shoulders singing off key angelic upstarts songs at the top

of our lungs now?

well why change the habit of a lifetime???

July 11, 2002

Diversity is great so long as it refers to forms diversity that does

no harm, such as some people liking football, some of us hating it,

and people liking different music, and different TV programmes (oy

Graham some of us vegans even follow Big Brother!), I can live with

loads of diversity, I'm a very accepting and understanding person

when it comes many different types of cruelty-free living people!

Let's not confuse accepting diversity with accepting atrocity!

I agree with you again Brad about not tolerating animal murder as

part of diversity, you might as well say tolerate Nazis as part of

diversity. When I put it to people like Graham that since they accept

animal eaters, then they should try to accept Nazis as their friends

well, he doesn't like that! Do we see some inconsistency there? I

think so! I have to talk to animal eaters, it doesn't mean I like

them!

I also won't have people smoking around me and my kids, no way!

I'm mega-tolerant about most things, just a few important things I'm

mega-intolerant over, but I feel that is justified mostly.

Lesley

vegan-network, kiwi2000 <kiwi2000@o...> wrote:

> That's fine for you but many of us find such diversity horrible,

abhorrent, disgusting etc. which is why we became vegans.

> If you don't really hold those values very strongly and don't care

much about killing innocent animals and getting cancer from

> cigarettes and prefer to hang out with people that foster this kind

of thing who don't care about the lives of other beings or the planet

> then all the luck to you.

>

> -

> quercusrobur2002

> vegan-network

> Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:02 AM

> [100% veg*n ] Living with vegans you're not actually

related to...

>

> vegan-network, " irene_lucy " <irene.lucy@n...> wrote:

> >

> > Why did that sound like hell for you?

> You prefer animal eaters and

> > smokers over non-smoking vegans do you?

>

> i just prefer people in all their diversity and with all their

> differences and inconsistancies. To be surrounded by a bunch of

> earnest vegans being full-on, ethically superior and checking

each

> others' footwear the whole time doesn't appeal to me at all! And

> IIRC it was proposed to be a non-drinking community as well :-(

> (or maybe I just made that assumption...)

>

July 11, 2002

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" quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett

<vegan-network >

Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:02 AM

[100% veg*n ] Living with vegans you're not actually related to...

> vegan-network, " irene_lucy " <irene.lucy@n...> wrote:

> >

> > Why did that sound like hell for you?

> You prefer animal eaters and

> > smokers over non-smoking vegans do you?

>

> i just prefer people in all their diversity and with all their

> differences and inconsistancies. To be surrounded by a bunch of

> earnest vegans being full-on, ethically superior

maybe they weren't. maybe they were just like a gang of friends at college

who tend to find each other with similar views and opinions. Or waybe they

weren't, but I can't think that all groups of vegans are that way

(okay, sorry for the interrupt)

Jon

July 11, 2002

>That's fine for you but many of us find such diversity horrible,

>abhorrent, disgusting etc. which is why we became vegans.

Speak for yourself.

Michael

July 11, 2002

I don't see that. Maybe you should read what you said about vegans and how

negative it was.

If you love the meaties so much and want to hang out with them and inhale their

secondary smoke and watch them eat pork, why be a vegan yourself? Are you a meat

eater in vegans' clothing?

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quercusrobur2002

vegan-network

Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:03 AM

Re: [100% veg*n ] Living with vegans you're not actually related

to...

LOL! THIS is the sort of thing which answers the question as to why

living with vegans would be hell ;-)

vegan-network, kiwi2000 <kiwi2000@o...> wrote:

> That's fine for you but many of us find such diversity horrible,

abhorrent, disgusting etc. which is why we became vegans.

> If you don't really hold those values very strongly and don't care

much about killing innocent animals and getting cancer from

> cigarettes and prefer to hang out with people that foster this

kind of thing who don't care about the lives of other beings or the

planet

> then all the luck to you.

July 11, 2002

*sits with paws under chin*

you kids are really making my day interesting, i will give you that

so, because someone isn't " enlightened " enough, we shouldn't talk to them , see

them, let them ride the bus, teach our kids, eat in the same resturants, etc

and how do we help said folks " see the error of their ways " then?

*smiles*

fraggle

kiwi2000 <kiwi2000 wrote:

>I don't see that. Maybe you should read what you said about vegans and how

negative it was.

>If you love the meaties so much and want to hang out with them and inhale their

secondary smoke and watch them eat pork, why be a vegan yourself? Are you a meat

eater in vegans' clothing?

> -

> quercusrobur2002

> vegan-network

> Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:03 AM

> Re: [100% veg*n ] Living with vegans you're not actually related

to...

>

> LOL! THIS is the sort of thing which answers the question as to why

> living with vegans would be hell ;-)

>

> vegan-network, kiwi2000 <kiwi2000@o...> wrote:

> > That's fine for you but many of us find such diversity horrible,

> abhorrent, disgusting etc. which is why we became vegans.

> > If you don't really hold those values very strongly and don't care

> much about killing innocent animals and getting cancer from

> > cigarettes and prefer to hang out with people that foster this

> kind of thing who don't care about the lives of other beings or the

> planet

> > then all the luck to you.

>

July 11, 2002

I just love what you said. I have a smile on my face and a song in my heart!

Brad

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irene_lucy

vegan-network

Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:13 PM