RE: [100% veg*n ] new to group & new to veganism

[Guest guest]

welcome ann and congratulations

 

faux leather and pleather

ummm..

its fake right??

no animal was harmed in making the product??

ummm

gee..never heard anyone ask this one before....

if it makes you happy, keep it...if it bothers you on a personal level, give em

away to goodwill er some suc

 

most folks get worried about wot they are going to do with their old leather

goods and things..not the faux stuff

all a personal choice and how it makes you feel...

cheers

fraggle

" Bright (Eyes) Black " <brighteyesblack wrote:

 

>hi,

>i just became vegan last friday. So far so good, im ridding out my

>closet & was starting to wonder what is everyones veiw point on

>animal prints, faux fur, & pleather?/////// I have so many animal

>prints that im just wondering what should i do???? some i dont want

>to part w/ & was wondering what you guys think?????

>

>ann

>

>

>

>To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

vegan-network-digest

>

>

[Guest guest]

oh, and you could always just send me the faux animal print stuff

teehee

fraggle

 

EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

>welcome ann and congratulations

>

>faux leather and pleather

>ummm..

>its fake right??

>no animal was harmed in making the product??

>ummm

>gee..never heard anyone ask this one before....

>if it makes you happy, keep it...if it bothers you on a personal level, give em

away to goodwill er some suc

>

>most folks get worried about wot they are going to do with their old leather

goods and things..not the faux stuff

>all a personal choice and how it makes you feel...

>cheers

>fraggle

> " Bright (Eyes) Black " <brighteyesblack wrote:

>

>>hi,

>>i just became vegan last friday. So far so good, im ridding out my

>>closet & was starting to wonder what is everyones veiw point on

>>animal prints, faux fur, & pleather?/////// I have so many animal

>>prints that im just wondering what should i do???? some i dont want

>>to part w/ & was wondering what you guys think?????

>>

>>ann

>>

>>

>>

>>To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

vegan-network-digest

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

thanks

I already got rid of most of my leather etc.... some things im not

sure if they are leather or not. but , i dont know, i just in a way

seen it as not making a good statement but then again im just showing

off the beauty of the animals... . thanks again

 

ann

vegan-network, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> oh, and you could always just send me the faux animal print stuff

>

> teehee

> fraggle

>

> EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

>

> >welcome ann and congratulations

> >

> >faux leather and pleather

> >ummm..

> >its fake right??

> >no animal was harmed in making the product??

> >ummm

> >gee..never heard anyone ask this one before....

> >if it makes you happy, keep it...if it bothers you on a personal

level, give em away to goodwill er some suc

> >

> >most folks get worried about wot they are going to do with their

old leather goods and things..not the faux stuff

> >all a personal choice and how it makes you feel...

> >cheers

> >fraggle

> > " Bright (Eyes) Black " <brighteyesblack> wrote:

> >

> >>hi,

> >>i just became vegan last friday. So far so good, im ridding out

my

> >>closet & was starting to wonder what is everyones veiw point on

> >>animal prints, faux fur, & pleather?/////// I have so many animal

> >>prints that im just wondering what should i do???? some i dont

want

> >>to part w/ & was wondering what you guys think?????

> >>

> >>ann

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email

to: vegan-network-digest

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

like i said..its all in how you feel

does it make you uncomfortable? do you feel guilty? if not, don't sweat it...

veganism is such a personal road...and no one has all the right answers...

cheers

fraggle

 

" Bright (Eyes) Black " <brighteyesblack wrote:

 

>thanks

>I already got rid of most of my leather etc.... some things im not

>sure if they are leather or not. but , i dont know, i just in a way

>seen it as not making a good statement but then again im just showing

>off the beauty of the animals... . thanks again

>

>ann

>vegan-network, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

>> oh, and you could always just send me the faux animal print stuff

>>

>> teehee

>> fraggle

>>

>> EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

>>

>> >welcome ann and congratulations

>> >

>> >faux leather and pleather

>> >ummm..

>> >its fake right??

>> >no animal was harmed in making the product??

>> >ummm

>> >gee..never heard anyone ask this one before....

>> >if it makes you happy, keep it...if it bothers you on a personal

>level, give em away to goodwill er some suc

>> >

>> >most folks get worried about wot they are going to do with their

>old leather goods and things..not the faux stuff

>> >all a personal choice and how it makes you feel...

>> >cheers

>> >fraggle

>> > " Bright (Eyes) Black " <brighteyesblack> wrote:

>> >

>> >>hi,

>> >>i just became vegan last friday. So far so good, im ridding out

>my

>> >>closet & was starting to wonder what is everyones veiw point on

>> >>animal prints, faux fur, & pleather?/////// I have so many animal

>> >>prints that im just wondering what should i do???? some i dont

>want

>> >>to part w/ & was wondering what you guys think?????

>> >>

>> >>ann

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email

>to: vegan-network-digest

>> >>

>> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

When I went veggie I kept my leather shoes etc until they wore out. In fact

I had my walking boots for about 4 years, and only in the last couple of

years have bought a digital camera to replace my old SLR. I felt that it was

a waste of the animal's pain if I just threw all non veggie things in the

bin and not a good use of the environment to then source brand new vegan

ones. Also it takes a while to get to know the best sources for things - I

always find the vegan festival in London a great source of sources! The

other thing is it costs money to simply bin everything and swap!

 

I personally wouldn't fret about it - veganism is more than a statement,

it's a way of life.. I would be extremely surprised if you always do

everything perfectly 'vegan' - mistakes will happen in what you eat and use.

I have now accepted this and just remember what the vegan society told me

what I was given Parma ham in a 'vegan' meal - I'd spent about 3 hours the

night of the dreaded ham meal getting myself in a right state, in tears,

angry,and trying to make myself sick.. I called the society the next day to

be reassured that veganism is more than just what you put in your mouth it's

a way of life!' I was a lot less hard on myself and still had a good

evening (though the restaurant was in no doubt of my opinions!) when I was

given a meat instead of a veggie samosa the other year!

 

In 6 weeks I am also marrying a dedicated meat eater - now this one I did

have problems with! However, he has - at his offer gone veggie when we're

together and the house is totally veggie. Our wedding will be totally veggie

and mainly vegan (including all the wines!). I have saved a lot more animals

pain by working through this with him than trying to change him for a veggie

or vegan model!

 

I'm the strictest vegan I know - I'm also 'chilled' about the whole thing

and veganism is part of my life - it doesn't control my life!

 

Bye for now

 

Jayne

Bright (Eyes) Black [brighteyesblack]

13 September 2002 03:13

vegan-network

Re: [100% veg*n ] new to group & new to veganism

 

 

thanks

I already got rid of most of my leather etc.... some things im not

sure if they are leather or not. but , i dont know, i just in a way

seen it as not making a good statement but then again im just showing

off the beauty of the animals... . thanks again

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jayne

 

Yes, I agree about the leather shoes. I too still have leather shoes though

am slowly replacing them with vegan friendly shoes like from Freerangers.

The shoes I am wearing today are vegan friendly but I did wear some leather

ones this week and I will continue to wear them until they are old and no

good! I have only been a vegan for just over 18 months or so, so I guess

this is quite common to still have such articles around the house! The

damage has already been in done in that the animal already suffered and the

shoes were already made and I had bought them before turning vegan but I

make the right choices now and that's the main thing. :-)

 

I'm looking forward to shopping at the National Vegan Festival!

 

Why are you the strictest vegan you know? Do you eat a very restrictive

diet? I once tried rawfoodism but that was way too restrictive for me so I

eat an average vegan diet now. Anyway, good luck with the wedding!

 

Janey

x

 

 

 

> Hi

>

> When I went veggie I kept my leather shoes etc until they wore out. In

fact

> I had my walking boots for about 4 years, and only in the last couple of

> years have bought a digital camera to replace my old SLR. I felt that it

was

> a waste of the animal's pain if I just threw all non veggie things in the

> bin and not a good use of the environment to then source brand new vegan

> ones. Also it takes a while to get to know the best sources for things - I

> always find the vegan festival in London a great source of sources! The

> other thing is it costs money to simply bin everything and swap!

>

> I personally wouldn't fret about it - veganism is more than a statement,

> it's a way of life.. I would be extremely surprised if you always do

> everything perfectly 'vegan' - mistakes will happen in what you eat and

use.

> I have now accepted this and just remember what the vegan society told me

> what I was given Parma ham in a 'vegan' meal - I'd spent about 3 hours the

> night of the dreaded ham meal getting myself in a right state, in tears,

> angry,and trying to make myself sick.. I called the society the next day

to

> be reassured that veganism is more than just what you put in your mouth

it's

> a way of life!' I was a lot less hard on myself and still had a good

> evening (though the restaurant was in no doubt of my opinions!) when I was

> given a meat instead of a veggie samosa the other year!

>

> In 6 weeks I am also marrying a dedicated meat eater - now this one I did

> have problems with! However, he has - at his offer gone veggie when we're

> together and the house is totally veggie. Our wedding will be totally

veggie

> and mainly vegan (including all the wines!). I have saved a lot more

animals

> pain by working through this with him than trying to change him for a

veggie

> or vegan model!

>

> I'm the strictest vegan I know - I'm also 'chilled' about the whole thing

> and veganism is part of my life - it doesn't control my life!

>

> Bye for now

>

> Jayne

>

> Bright (Eyes) Black [brighteyesblack]

> 13 September 2002 03:13

> vegan-network

> Re: [100% veg*n ] new to group & new to veganism

>

>

> thanks

> I already got rid of most of my leather etc.... some things im not

> sure if they are leather or not. but , i dont know, i just in a way

> seen it as not making a good statement but then again im just showing

> off the beauty of the animals... . thanks again

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just gave all my leather/ animal products away instead of throwing them away

Jayne Blissett wrote:Hi

 

When I went veggie I kept my leather shoes etc until they wore out. In fact

I had my walking boots for about 4 years, and only in the last couple of

years have bought a digital camera to replace my old SLR. I felt that it was

a waste of the animal's pain if I just threw all non veggie things in the

bin and not a good use of the environment to then source brand new vegan

ones. Also it takes a while to get to know the best sources for things - I

always find the vegan festival in London a great source of sources! The

other thing is it costs money to simply bin everything and swap!

 

I personally wouldn't fret about it - veganism is more than a statement,

it's a way of life.. I would be extremely surprised if you always do

everything perfectly 'vegan' - mistakes will happen in what you eat and use.

I have now accepted this and just remember what the vegan society told me

what I was given Parma ham in a 'vegan' meal - I'd spent about 3 hours the

night of the dreaded ham meal getting myself in a right state, in tears,

angry,and trying to make myself sick.. I called the society the next day to

be reassured that veganism is more than just what you put in your mouth it's

a way of life!' I was a lot less hard on myself and still had a good

evening (though the restaurant was in no doubt of my opinions!) when I was

given a meat instead of a veggie samosa the other year!

 

In 6 weeks I am also marrying a dedicated meat eater - now this one I did

have problems with! However, he has - at his offer gone veggie when we're

together and the house is totally veggie. Our wedding will be totally veggie

and mainly vegan (including all the wines!). I have saved a lot more animals

pain by working through this with him than trying to change him for a veggie

or vegan model!

 

I'm the strictest vegan I know - I'm also 'chilled' about the whole thing

and veganism is part of my life - it doesn't control my life!

 

Bye for now

 

Jayne

Bright (Eyes) Black [brighteyesblack]

13 September 2002 03:13

vegan-network

Re: [100% veg*n ] new to group & new to veganism

 

 

thanks

I already got rid of most of my leather etc.... some things im not

sure if they are leather or not. but , i dont know, i just in a way

seen it as not making a good statement but then again im just showing

off the beauty of the animals... . thanks again

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I just gave all my leather/ animal products away instead of throwing them away

Jayne Blissett wrote:Hi

 

When I went veggie I kept my leather shoes etc until they wore out. In fact

I had my walking boots for about 4 years, and only in the last couple of

years have bought a digital camera to replace my old SLR. I felt that it was

a waste of the animal's pain if I just threw all non veggie things in the

bin and not a good use of the environment to then source brand new vegan

ones. Also it takes a while to get to know the best sources for things - I

always find the vegan festival in London a great source of sources! The

other thing is it costs money to simply bin everything and swap!

 

I personally wouldn't fret about it - veganism is more than a statement,

it's a way of life.. I would be extremely surprised if you always do

everything perfectly 'vegan' - mistakes will happen in what you eat and use.

I have now accepted this and just remember what the vegan society told me

what I was given Parma ham in a 'vegan' meal - I'd spent about 3 hours the

night of the dreaded ham meal getting myself in a right state, in tears,

angry,and trying to make myself sick.. I called the society the next day to

be reassured that veganism is more than just what you put in your mouth it's

a way of life!' I was a lot less hard on myself and still had a good

evening (though the restaurant was in no doubt of my opinions!) when I was

given a meat instead of a veggie samosa the other year!

 

In 6 weeks I am also marrying a dedicated meat eater - now this one I did

have problems with! However, he has - at his offer gone veggie when we're

together and the house is totally veggie. Our wedding will be totally veggie

and mainly vegan (including all the wines!). I have saved a lot more animals

pain by working through this with him than trying to change him for a veggie

or vegan model!

 

I'm the strictest vegan I know - I'm also 'chilled' about the whole thing

and veganism is part of my life - it doesn't control my life!

 

Bye for now

 

Jayne

Bright (Eyes) Black [brighteyesblack]

13 September 2002 03:13

vegan-network

Re: [100% veg*n ] new to group & new to veganism

 

 

thanks

I already got rid of most of my leather etc.... some things im not

sure if they are leather or not. but , i dont know, i just in a way

seen it as not making a good statement but then again im just showing

off the beauty of the animals... . thanks again

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

*hides face*

and i still have my old leather jacket...

*sobs*

i plan on replacing it as soon as i can...alas...replacements are not cheap....

tho..i've had vegan docs fer years

*kicks feet*

 

fraggle

 

" Janey " <janey wrote:

 

>Hi Jayne

>

>Yes, I agree about the leather shoes.  I too still have leather shoes though

>am slowly replacing them with vegan friendly shoes like from Freerangers.

>The shoes I am wearing today are vegan friendly but I did wear some leather

>ones this week and I will continue to wear them until they are old and no

>good!  I have only been a vegan for just over 18 months or so, so I guess

>this is quite common to still have such articles around the house!  The

>damage has already been in done in that the animal already suffered and the

>shoes were already made and I had bought them before turning vegan but I

>make the right choices now and that's the main thing.  :-)

>

>I'm looking forward to shopping at the National Vegan Festival!

>

>Why are you the strictest vegan you know?  Do you eat a very restrictive

>diet?  I once tried rawfoodism but that was way too restrictive for me so I

>eat an average vegan diet now.  Anyway, good luck with the wedding!

>

>Janey

>x

>

>

>

>> Hi

>>

>> When I went veggie I kept my leather shoes etc until they wore out. In

>fact

>> I had my walking boots for about 4 years, and only in the last couple of

>> years have bought a digital camera to replace my old SLR. I felt that it

>was

>> a waste of the animal's pain if I just threw all non veggie things in the

>> bin and not a good use of the environment to then source brand new vegan

>> ones. Also it takes a while to get to know the best sources for things - I

>> always find the vegan festival in London a great source of sources! The

>> other thing is it costs money to simply bin everything and swap!

>>

>> I personally wouldn't fret about it - veganism is more than a statement,

>> it's a way of life..  I would be extremely surprised if you always do

>> everything perfectly 'vegan' - mistakes will happen in what you eat and

>use.

>> I have now accepted this and just remember what the vegan society told me

>> what I was given Parma ham in a 'vegan' meal - I'd spent about 3 hours the

>> night of the dreaded ham meal getting myself in a right state, in tears,

>> angry,and trying to make myself sick.. I called the society the next day

>to

>> be reassured that veganism is more than just what you put in your mouth

>it's

>> a way of life!'  I was a lot less hard on myself and still had a good

>> evening (though the restaurant was in no doubt of my opinions!) when I was

>> given a meat instead of a veggie samosa the other year!

>>

>> In 6 weeks I am also marrying a dedicated meat eater - now this one I did

>> have problems with! However, he has - at his offer gone veggie when we're

>> together and the house is totally veggie. Our wedding will be totally

>veggie

>> and mainly vegan (including all the wines!). I have saved a lot more

>animals

>> pain by working through this with him than trying to change him for a

>veggie

>> or vegan model!

>>

>> I'm the strictest vegan I know - I'm also 'chilled' about the whole thing

>> and veganism is part of my life - it doesn't control my life!

>>

>> Bye for now

>>

>> Jayne

>>  

>>   Bright (Eyes) Black [brighteyesblack]

>>   13 September 2002 03:13

>>   vegan-network

>>   Re: [100% veg*n ] new to group & new to veganism

>>

>>

>>   thanks

>>   I already got rid of most of my leather etc.... some things im not

>>   sure if they are leather or not. but , i dont know, i just in a way

>>   seen it as not making a good statement but then again im just showing

>>   off the beauty of the animals... . thanks again

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

 

re: Why are you the strictest vegan you know? Do you eat a very restrictive

>diet?

 

'cause I don't personally know many vegans and I follow veganism to the

purity of what the vegan society state! Not restrictive - just strict!

 

I know that there are many people on this list that are 'stricter' or just a

true a vegan as me!

 

As far as restrictive goes - I'm vegan who is highly sensitive to yeast and

cocoa! I fine this far more restrictive than veganism!

 

Thanks for the good luck wishes! I think I might need it when the guests

realise that though they are having pasties in Cornwall they are full of

tofu!

 

Bye for now

 

Jayne

EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]

16 September 2002 16:08

vegan-network

Re: [100% veg*n ] new to group & new to veganism

 

 

 

*hides face*

and i still have my old leather jacket...

*sobs*

i plan on replacing it as soon as i can...alas...replacements are not

cheap....

tho..i've had vegan docs fer years

*kicks feet*

 

fraggle

 

" Janey " <janey wrote:

 

>Hi Jayne

>

>Yes, I agree about the leather shoes. I too still have leather shoes

though

>am slowly replacing them with vegan friendly shoes like from Freerangers.

>The shoes I am wearing today are vegan friendly but I did wear some

leather

>ones this week and I will continue to wear them until they are old and no

>good! I have only been a vegan for just over 18 months or so, so I guess

>this is quite common to still have such articles around the house! The

>damage has already been in done in that the animal already suffered and

the

>shoes were already made and I had bought them before turning vegan but I

>make the right choices now and that's the main thing. :-)

>

>I'm looking forward to shopping at the National Vegan Festival!

>

>Why are you the strictest vegan you know? Do you eat a very restrictive

>diet? I once tried rawfoodism but that was way too restrictive for me so

I

>eat an average vegan diet now. Anyway, good luck with the wedding!

>

>Janey

>x

>

>

>

>> Hi

>>

>> When I went veggie I kept my leather shoes etc until they wore out. In

>fact

>> I had my walking boots for about 4 years, and only in the last couple

of

>> years have bought a digital camera to replace my old SLR. I felt that

it

>was

>> a waste of the animal's pain if I just threw all non veggie things in

the

>> bin and not a good use of the environment to then source brand new

vegan

>> ones. Also it takes a while to get to know the best sources for

things - I

>> always find the vegan festival in London a great source of sources! The

>> other thing is it costs money to simply bin everything and swap!

>>

>> I personally wouldn't fret about it - veganism is more than a

statement,

>> it's a way of life.. I would be extremely surprised if you always do

>> everything perfectly 'vegan' - mistakes will happen in what you eat and

>use.

>> I have now accepted this and just remember what the vegan society told

me

>> what I was given Parma ham in a 'vegan' meal - I'd spent about 3 hours

the

>> night of the dreaded ham meal getting myself in a right state, in

tears,

>> angry,and trying to make myself sick.. I called the society the next

day

>to

>> be reassured that veganism is more than just what you put in your mouth

>it's

>> a way of life!' I was a lot less hard on myself and still had a good

>> evening (though the restaurant was in no doubt of my opinions!) when I

was

>> given a meat instead of a veggie samosa the other year!

>>

>> In 6 weeks I am also marrying a dedicated meat eater - now this one I

did

>> have problems with! However, he has - at his offer gone veggie when

we're

>> together and the house is totally veggie. Our wedding will be totally

>veggie

>> and mainly vegan (including all the wines!). I have saved a lot more

>animals

>> pain by working through this with him than trying to change him for a

>veggie

>> or vegan model!

>>

>> I'm the strictest vegan I know - I'm also 'chilled' about the whole

thing

>> and veganism is part of my life - it doesn't control my life!

>>

>> Bye for now

>>

>> Jayne