Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 > " Before about 1900 Alzheimer's disease did not exist, or if it did, was so > rare as not to be noticed. Or, more likely, not separated out from other senile dementias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 before 1900 most people died at or before 60, so alzheimers would have been less prevalent due to the nature of the population....... catherine >Ian McDonald <ian > >vegan-network >CC: TFHB , , ESI-List, eco_vegans , homstead_solarium > Re: [100% veg*n ] Alzheimers=CJD??? >Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:16:08 +0100 > > > "Before about 1900 Alzheimer's disease did not exist, or if it did, was so > > rare as not to be noticed. > >Or, more likely, not separated out from other senile dementias. Have more fun with your phone - download ringtones, logos, screensavers, games more. Click here to begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 not true BSE seems to be incubate in relation to the lifespan of the animal in which has consumed it cows it takes about 5-8 years humans about 20 the on set of dementia on a large scale didn't start happening till after world war II which just happens to coincide with when they started feeding animal parts back to the WRONG animals the prions are scary little buggars Catherine Harris [cait2]Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [100% veg*n ] Alzheimers=CJD??? before 1900 most people died at or before 60, so alzheimers would have been less prevalent due to the nature of the population....... catherine >Ian McDonald <ian > >vegan-network >CC: TFHB , , ESI-List, eco_vegans , homstead_solarium > Re: [100% veg*n ] Alzheimers=CJD??? >Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:16:08 +0100 > > > "Before about 1900 Alzheimer's disease did not exist, or if it did, was so > > rare as not to be noticed. > >Or, more likely, not separated out from other senile dementias. Have more fun with your phone - download ringtones, logos, screensavers, games & more. Click here to begin! To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 catherine: > before 1900 most people died at or before 60, so alzheimers would have been less prevalent > due to the nature of the > population....... Craig Dearth wrote: > > not true Obviously, you're not arguing from evidence, but predicting something based on your hypothesis about Alzheimers being a prion disease. > BSE seems to be incubate in relation to the lifespan of the animal in > which has consumed it > cows it takes about 5-8 years > humans about 20 Catherine was talking about Dementias in general, not Alzheimers, and you only seem to be claiming a prion link for Alzheimers. Remember, the thread is " Alzheimers=CJD " (I'm no expert, but from what I know the Alzheimers and CJD have very different symptoms anyway). As it happens, my recollection is that Dementias were common pre-1900, but this is only based on dimly remembered anecdotal evidence. It sounds like Catherine is speaking from survey evidence (the word is 'epidemiological'), and I'd change my mind if she produced convincing evidence. > the on set of dementia on a large scale didn't start happening till > after world war II What are your reasons for saying this? (I'm really looking for a source I can follow up here.) It doesn't match with my recollection. > which just happens to coincide with when they started feeding animal > parts back to the WRONG animals I'll trust you on that one; it sounds feasible. However, your hypothesis (that Alzheimers is a prion disesase) would predict that Alzheimers (not dementia in general) would rise dramatically in all adult age groups (older than the twenty-year incubation period) starting in the late 1960s (twenty years after post-WWII start of factory farming). Your data do not agree with your hypothesis. If you really want to discuss this, then you might want to take it to ivu-sci, the International Vegetarian Union's scientific discussion group. But honestly, I don't think there's any point, because I don't think you're supplying reasons for thinking Alzheimers is either specifically new form CJD or in general a prion disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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