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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=10118241

 

Vegans rattle ideas about bones

02.04.05

 

WASHINGTON - People who eat nothing but raw vegetarian food can still

be healthy, US researchers reported.

 

Although nutritionists and the food industry have warned that a diet

without dairy foods can lead to the bone-thinning disease

osteoporosis, the research team at Washington University School of

Medicine in St Louis found the vegans they studied had many of the

signs of strong bones.

 

" We think it's possible these people don't have increased risk of

fracture but that their low bone mass is related to the fact that they

are lighter because they take in fewer calories, " Dr Luigi Fontana said.

 

" Because of their low calorie and low protein intake, raw food

vegetarians have a low body mass index (BMI) and a low total body fat

content. It is well documented that a low BMI and weight loss are

strongly associated with low bone mass and increased fracture risk,

while obesity protects against osteoporosis, " Dr Fontana's team wrote

in this week's issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine.

 

The team studied 18 strict raw food vegans aged from 33 to 85. All ate

a diet that included unprepared foods such as vegetables, fruits,

nuts, and sprouted grains.

 

They had been on this diet for an average of 3.6 years.

 

The researchers compared them with 18 more " average " Americans. The

raw food group had an average BMI of 20.5, while the average group

were slightly overweight with a BMI of 25. BMI is a measurement of

height to weight, and a BMI of 18.5 to 24 is considered the healthy range.

 

Dr Fontana, who led the study, expected the vegans to have low vitamin

D levels because they avoid dairy products, which are fortified with

the vitamin. But in fact their vitamin D levels were " markedly higher "

than average.

 

Vitamin D is made by the skin when the body is exposed to sunlight and

is key to keeping strong bones.

 

" These people are clever enough to expose themselves to sunlight to

increase their concentrations of vitamin D, " he said.

 

And the vegans had low levels of C-reactive protein, an inflammatory

molecule that is becoming linked with the risk of heart disease,

diabetes and other chronic disease. They also had lower levels of

IGF-1, a growth factor linked to risk of breast and prostate cancer.

 

- REUTERS

 

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can STILL be healthy?

 

 

 

 

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4/12/2005 9:55:56 AM

dem bnes dem bones dem crazy bones

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=10118241Vegans rattle ideas about bones02.04.05WASHINGTON - People who eat nothing but raw vegetarian food can stillbe healthy, US researchers reported.Although nutritionists and the food industry have warned that a dietwithout dairy foods can lead to the bone-thinning diseaseosteoporosis, the research team at Washington University School ofMedicine in St Louis found the vegans they studied had many of thesigns of strong bones."We think it's possible these people don't have increased risk offracture but that their low bone mass is related to the fact that theyare lighter because they take in fewer calories," Dr Luigi Fontana said."Because of their low calorie and low protein intake, raw foodvegetarians have a low body mass index (BMI) and a low total body fatcontent. It is well documented that a low BMI and weight loss arestrongly associated with low bone mass and increased fracture risk,while obesity protects against osteoporosis," Dr Fontana's team wrotein this week's issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine.The team studied 18 strict raw food vegans aged from 33 to 85. All atea diet that included unprepared foods such as vegetables, fruits,nuts, and sprouted grains.They had been on this diet for an average of 3.6 years.The researchers compared them with 18 more "average" Americans. Theraw food group had an average BMI of 20.5, while the average groupwere slightly overweight with a BMI of 25. BMI is a measurement ofheight to weight, and a BMI of 18.5 to 24 is considered the healthy range.Dr Fontana, who led the study, expected the vegans to have low vitaminD levels because they avoid dairy products, which are fortified withthe vitamin. But in fact their vitamin D levels were "markedly higher"than average.Vitamin D is made by the skin when the body is exposed to sunlight andis key to keeping strong bones."These people are clever enough to expose themselves to sunlight toincrease their concentrations of vitamin D," he said.And the vegans had low levels of C-reactive protein, an inflammatorymolecule that is becoming linked with the risk of heart disease,diabetes and other chronic disease. They also had lower levels ofIGF-1, a growth factor linked to risk of breast and prostate cancer.- REUTERS What you see is what you getYou've made your bed, you better lie in itYou choose your leaders and place your trustAs their lies wash you down and their promises rustYou'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and gunsAnd the public wants what the public getsBut I don't get what this society wantsTo send an email to -

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Hi

 

The link didn't take me to the page.

 

LOL - I know quite a few podgy vegans - it's because vegan food is so nice.

 

I think consuming dairy does have an effect on bones - a bad effect. The

osteoporosis boom has, apparently, paralleled the increased consumption of

dairy products.

 

Jo

 

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:03 PM

Re: dem bnes dem bones dem crazy bones

 

 

>

>

> It's because we vegans are clever enough to expose ourselves to

> sunshine, not because, as studies now show, that consuming dairy has

> no bearing on bone health!

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15741380

>

> As for the skinny vegan myth, I don't know about you all, but it sure

> ain't true for me (pudgy, round-cheeked vegan girl smile), but I

> suspect that it's probably true for raw vegans, darn 'em!

>

> -kittinose

>

> , " anouk sickler " <zurumato@e...>

> wrote:

> > can STILL be healthy?

> >

> >

> > -

> > fraggle

> > TFHB ; ;vegan-

> network

> > 4/12/2005 9:55:56 AM

> > dem bnes dem bones dem crazy bones

> >

> >

> > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=10118241

> >

> > Vegans rattle ideas about bones

> > 02.04.05

> >

> > WASHINGTON - People who eat nothing but raw vegetarian food can

> still

> > be healthy, US researchers reported.

> >

> > Although nutritionists and the food industry have warned that a diet

> > without dairy foods can lead to the bone-thinning disease

> > osteoporosis, the research team at Washington University School of

> > Medicine in St Louis found the vegans they studied had many of the

> > signs of strong bones.

> >

> > " We think it's possible these people don't have increased risk of

> > fracture but that their low bone mass is related to the fact that

> they

> > are lighter because they take in fewer calories, " Dr Luigi Fontana

> said.

> >

> > " Because of their low calorie and low protein intake, raw food

> > vegetarians have a low body mass index (BMI) and a low total body

> fat

> > content. It is well documented that a low BMI and weight loss are

> > strongly associated with low bone mass and increased fracture risk,

> > while obesity protects against osteoporosis, " Dr Fontana's team

> wrote

> > in this week's issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine.

> >

> > The team studied 18 strict raw food vegans aged from 33 to 85. All

> ate

> > a diet that included unprepared foods such as vegetables, fruits,

> > nuts, and sprouted grains.

> >

> > They had been on this diet for an average of 3.6 years.

> >

> > The researchers compared them with 18 more " average " Americans. The

> > raw food group had an average BMI of 20.5, while the average group

> > were slightly overweight with a BMI of 25. BMI is a measurement of

> > height to weight, and a BMI of 18.5 to 24 is considered the healthy

> range.

> >

> > Dr Fontana, who led the study, expected the vegans to have low

> vitamin

> > D levels because they avoid dairy products, which are fortified with

> > the vitamin. But in fact their vitamin D levels were " markedly

> higher "

> > than average.

> >

> > Vitamin D is made by the skin when the body is exposed to sunlight

> and

> > is key to keeping strong bones.

> >

> > " These people are clever enough to expose themselves to sunlight to

> > increase their concentrations of vitamin D, " he said.

> >

> > And the vegans had low levels of C-reactive protein, an inflammatory

> > molecule that is becoming linked with the risk of heart disease,

> > diabetes and other chronic disease. They also had lower levels of

> > IGF-1, a growth factor linked to risk of breast and prostate cancer.

> >

> > - REUTERS

> >

> > What you see is what you get

> > You've made your bed, you better lie in it

> > You choose your leaders and place your trust

> > As their lies wash you down and their promises rust

> > You'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns

> > And the public wants what the public gets

> > But I don't get what this society wants

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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