Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but, well, DUH. I'm more than sure by now that even people who don't live in the United States (and yes, I do, and yes, I know this sounds horrible, but I don't care) have figured out that our President is not concerned with matters on home soil and has never been concerned since his first election day. If he can't drop a bomb and " fix the problem " (his words, not mine) then it's not important to him. Besides, if he admitted that there could be even the slightest chance that global warming does in fact exist, he'd have to look at all the companies he has stock invested in that have been causing the problems over the years. That would be too bad a trip for him to take. He doesn't realize that there soon won't be anything left to divide and conquer at the rate our planet is shaking us off. fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming June 27, 2006 — By Jeremy Lovell, Reuters LONDON — The United States -- the world's richest and most polluting nation -- has a moral duty to take the lead in tackling catastrophic global warming instead of denying it is happening, a leading scientist said on Monday. Addressing a meeting of international climate scientists and policymakers, John Houghton, a former senior member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said urgent action was imperative. " If only the U.S. administration could flip from denial to acceptance it could save the world, " he said. " If the Americans continue to do nothing then we have a big problem -- therefore they must do something. " U.S. president George W. Bush's administration has refused to ratify the Kyoto Protocol on cutting climate-warming carbon gases from burning fossil fuels, calling it economic suicide. Harlan Watson, Bush's top climate negotiator, ruled out joining the treaty but did not exclude the possibility that a future U.S. President might take a different view. However, he said whatever emerged from the current round of talks it would be radically different. " The future regime will not look much like the current regime, " he told the meeting. Luiz Alberto Figueirdo Machado, head of the environment section of Brazil's foreign ministry, said the developed world had had a free ride for 150 years and it was payback time. " The polluter must pay, " he told the meeting at think-tank the Royal Institute for International Affairs. " It is not the wish of the developing countries to repeat the mistakes of the developed countries over the past 150 years. ACT URGENTLY Scientists predict average global temperatures will rise by at least two degrees Celsius this century, bringing floods, droughts and rising sea levels from melting polar ice caps. " Whatever we do things will get worse from here, so we must act urgently, " Houghton said. Houghton said developed nations had to take a lead in combating warming because if they did not the developing world -- particularly countries like China -- would take no action. China is building roughly one large coal-fired power station a week to fuel its booming economy. But both Houghton and Halldor Thorgeirsson of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change expressed optimism. " Climate change is a solvable problem. We have the technology to deal with this, " Thorgeirsson said, saying that if it had not been for Kyoto, global carbon emissions would have been at least 30 percent higher than current levels. He said he was confident there would be a follow-up to Kyoto when the treaty expired in 2012, adding it would have to be broader than the current agreement. " We won't have all the answers by 2012, but we need to have found a way forward by then, " he said. " We have a window of 20-30 years to find a solution. " (Additional reporting by Gerard Wynn) Source: Reuters " NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. " To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 and yet, there are hordes of people in the US who still keep their heads under the sand, er like our *president* said today " we need to get beyond the fact that people are causing global warming " many refuse to believe we have anything to do with it, and if we do, tough.. >Jenny Demonic <jennydemonic >Jun 27, 2006 5:21 PM >vegan-network >Re: [100% veg*n ] U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming > >I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but, well, DUH. I'm more than sure by now that even people who don't live in the United States (and yes, I do, and yes, I know this sounds horrible, but I don't care) have figured out that our President is not concerned with matters on home soil and has never been concerned since his first election day. If he can't drop a bomb and " fix the problem " (his words, not mine) then it's not important to him. Besides, if he admitted that there could be even the slightest chance that global warming does in fact exist, he'd have to look at all the companies he has stock invested in that have been causing the problems over the years. That would be too bad a trip for him to take. He doesn't realize that there soon won't be anything left to divide and conquer at the rate our planet is shaking us off. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Guess that's why it's gotten to be such a big problem, huh? I'm totally agreeing with you, I'm just also a total smartass. The mother has been showing us she is not at all happy with her cubs in the past few years. I guess when Cali really DOES fall into the ocean, it might might MIGHT make people stand up and pay attention. Of course, hurricanes and tsunamis haven't fit the bill, and I'll be right there laughing my rear off at the next person who says, " We're not quite sure how this happened. Maybe the (insert the name of some culture here) have developed some new biological weapon that caused this. We're going to act on that guess and we're just gonna nuke 'em. Then our problems will go away. " Can you tell I don't hold much water with government tacticts? We need a bigger grassroots movement to shake things up a bit. fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and yet, there are hordes of people in the US who still keep their heads under the sand, er like our *president* said today " we need to get beyond the fact that people are causing global warming " many refuse to believe we have anything to do with it, and if we do, tough.. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 when they discover how to make money off of telling people about global warming, thats when you'll start seeing folks go " oh, really, wot? global warming! " oh..and we aren't gonna fall in the sea..we get to be a suburb of seattle >Jenny Demonic <jennydemonic >Jun 27, 2006 3:32 PM >vegan-network >Re: [100% veg*n ] U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming > >Guess that's why it's gotten to be such a big problem, huh? I'm totally agreeing with you, I'm just also a total smartass. The mother has been showing us she is not at all happy with her cubs in the past few years. I guess when Cali really DOES fall into the ocean, it might might MIGHT make people stand up and pay attention. Of course, hurricanes and tsunamis haven't fit the bill, and I'll be right there laughing my rear off at the next person who says, " We're not quite sure how this happened. Maybe the (insert the name of some culture here) have developed some new biological weapon that caused this. We're going to act on that guess and we're just gonna nuke 'em. Then our problems will go away. " Can you tell I don't hold much water with government tacticts? We need a bigger grassroots movement to shake things up a bit. > Defending this corruption on which you are sat You tell me what to think, you tell me this and that `Freedom is O.K. you scum` but make sure it`s never used In your defence of liberty I always stand accused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Yet another great quote! Get beyond it..... unless he's suggesting we actually stop...... I think today's heat must have gone to my head... vegan-network [vegan-network ] On Behalf Of fraggle 27 June 2006 23:02 vegan-network Re: [100% veg*n ] U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming and yet, there are hordes of people in the US who still keep their heads under the sand, er like our *president* said today " we need to get beyond the fact that people are causing global warming " many refuse to believe we have anything to do with it, and if we do, tough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 heck...he wouldn't even want anyone to cut back! stop? wahahahahhaa >Michael Benis <michaelbenis >Jun 28, 2006 1:17 PM >vegan-network >RE: [100% veg*n ] U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming > >Yet another great quote! Get beyond it..... unless he's suggesting we >actually stop...... I think today's heat must have gone to my head... > > >vegan-network [vegan-network ] >On Behalf Of fraggle >27 June 2006 23:02 >vegan-network >Re: [100% veg*n ] U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming > >and yet, there are hordes of people in the US who still keep their heads >under the sand, er like our *president* said today " we need to get beyond >the fact that people are causing global warming " >many refuse to believe we have anything to do with it, and if we do, tough.. > > > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 You mean he has friends in the air conditioning industry as well as the oil industry? Surely not? vegan-network [vegan-network ] On Behalf Of fraggle 28 June 2006 21:26 vegan-network RE: [100% veg*n ] U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming heck...he wouldn't even want anyone to cut back! stop? wahahahahhaa >Michael Benis <michaelbenis >Jun 28, 2006 1:17 PM >vegan-network >RE: [100% veg*n ] U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming > >Yet another great quote! Get beyond it..... unless he's suggesting we >actually stop...... I think today's heat must have gone to my head... > > >vegan-network >[vegan-network ] >On Behalf Of fraggle >27 June 2006 23:02 >vegan-network >Re: [100% veg*n ] U.S. Has Duty to Lead on Global Warming > >and yet, there are hordes of people in the US who still keep their >heads under the sand, er like our *president* said today " we need to >get beyond the fact that people are causing global warming " >many refuse to believe we have anything to do with it, and if we do, tough.. > > > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: >vegan-network-digest > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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