Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I have to disagree with you, Don, and not just because you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". While my cat is overly curious about my food and has a tendency to steal crackers (and other vegan junk food), she still prefers the meat-based food I give her. She was 10 when I went veg, and a radical change in the diet of an older creature would, I feel, have been detrimental to her. Danielle EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me vegan-network From: swpgh01.t21Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:02:06 +0000[100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs? http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Vegan-Cats-and-Dogs.aspxLet me get this straight. More and more vegan pet owners are working to convert their dogs and cats to their dietary lifestyle – this according to reports in the Huffington Post? (1) First of all, my beliefs on trapping and keeping animals in the home for one's own amusement is a little radical. I'm not in favor of it. Domesticated dogs and cats by now have little choice but to be in people's homes as pets, but honestly, this is something unnatural for the animals. But, all of that aside, converting your dog or cat to any form of vegetarianism when both are carnivorous animals because of your own beliefs is perturbing and nearly the equivalent of torture. It proves to me, once again, that people should not be allowed to possess animals. It's not a matter so much as to the health of the animals because surely a dog or cat can survive on soy protein as well as a person. But, the unnatural aspect of this and the forcing of a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance. What is the difference between these people forcing their dog or cat to become a vegetarian than their children? Their children will grow up and make a choice for themselves, whereas the dogs and cats are at the mercy of their owners. It's unfathomable why people would think this is a fair and just decision to impose on them as if keeping them as house pets isn't sufficiently degrading to the free soul of an animal. Now if you want to put a bowl of carrot puree mixed with soy flower and one of tuna and let your cat decide, fine. But, don't force it to eat something so unnatural as to its normal parameters as to be bordering on torture. The most odd thing about it is that is contradicts the very nature of the lifestyle of a Vegan. Vegans are people who do not believe that anything should die so that they should eat. They have a pure love of living things. Why on earth would a person with such pure love for all living things force another creature to eat food so outside the realm of its own natural diet? It's just so very odd and contradictory. COMMENT :Your an idiot! If a vegan pet owner wishes to convert his or her pet to veganism, then so be it. Just like when humans make the decision to dis-include rotting animal parts in their diets, the pets will get healthier, live longer, and enjoy life more. Plus, this decision will reduce the need to kill other living species for food. Plus, this decision is better for the environment. As far as you put it, "forcing a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance." Frankly, that statement is stunningly arrogant! Dogs and cats don't think in terms of right or wrong moral decisions. You speak of going vegan as if it, "borders on torture." Just like when humans go vegan, pets will be able to eat MORE, eat a great VARIETY of foods, ENJOY their foods, and again become HEALTHIER because of it. They won't be wondering around the house moaning for animal muscle and secretions, as if that is the only and best source of dietary happiness in animals. As a responsible and loving pet owner, the only and best decision to make would be to feed your pet vegan food. This doesn't amount to "torture," but does amount to a loving and caring relationship between a pet and his or her owner. Like humans, pets are happier when they are healthier. Not the other way around. Your analysis of this situation is blatantly wrong, misguided, and base on out dated stereo types! Posted 12 Hours Ago DonFW1Las Vegas, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 It is my understanding that cats are 'true' carnivores, that there is a particular amino acid that is only available in meat. Apparently there is a supplement that you can give you cat to provide this. I would not put my cats on a vegan diet, they are what they are. I try to give them food with as little additives as possible. Jenny vegan-network , Danielle Kichler <veggietart wrote: > > > I have to disagree with you, Don, and not just because you don't know the difference between " your " and " you're " . While my cat is overly curious about my food and has a tendency to steal crackers (and other vegan junk food), she still prefers the meat-based food I give her. She was 10 when I went veg, and a radical change in the diet of an older creature would, I feel, have been detrimental to her. > > > Danielle > EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD > Join me > > > > > vegan-network > swpgh01.t21 > Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:02:06 +0000 > [100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs? > > > > > > http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Vegan-Cats-and-Dogs.aspx > Let me get this straight. More and more vegan pet owners are working to convert their dogs and cats to their dietary lifestyle – this according to reports in the Huffington Post? (1) First of all, my beliefs on trapping and keeping animals in the home for one's own amusement is a little radical. I'm not in favor of it. Domesticated dogs and cats by now have little choice but to be in people's homes as pets, but honestly, this is something unnatural for the animals. But, all of that aside, converting your dog or cat to any form of vegetarianism when both are carnivorous animals because of your own beliefs is perturbing and nearly the equivalent of torture. It proves to me, once again, that people should not be allowed to possess animals. It's not a matter so much as to the health of the animals because surely a dog or cat can survive on soy protein as well as a person. But, the unnatural aspect of this and the forcing of a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance. What is the difference between these people forcing their dog or cat to become a vegetarian than their children? Their children will grow up and make a choice for themselves, whereas the dogs and cats are at the mercy of their owners. It's unfathomable why people would think this is a fair and just decision to impose on them as if keeping them as house pets isn't sufficiently degrading to the free soul of an animal. Now if you want to put a bowl of carrot puree mixed with soy flower and one of tuna and let your cat decide, fine. But, don't force it to eat something so unnatural as to its normal parameters as to be bordering on torture. The most odd thing about it is that is contradicts the very nature of the lifestyle of a Vegan. Vegans are people who do not believe that anything should die so that they should eat. They have a pure love of living things. Why on earth would a person with such pure love for all living things force another creature to eat food so outside the realm of its own natural diet? It's just so very odd and contradictory. > COMMENT : > Your an idiot! If a vegan pet owner wishes to convert his or her pet to veganism, then so be it. Just like when humans make the decision to dis-include rotting animal parts in their diets, the pets will get healthier, live longer, and enjoy life more. Plus, this decision will reduce the need to kill other living species for food. Plus, this decision is better for the environment. > > As far as you put it, " forcing a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance. " Frankly, that statement is stunningly arrogant! Dogs and cats don't think in terms of right or wrong moral decisions. You speak of going vegan as if it, " borders on torture. " Just like when humans go vegan, pets will be able to eat MORE, eat a great VARIETY of foods, ENJOY their foods, and again become HEALTHIER because of it. They won't be wondering around the house moaning for animal muscle and secretions, as if that is the only and best source of dietary happiness in animals. > > As a responsible and loving pet owner, the only and best decision to make would be to feed your pet vegan food. This doesn't amount to " torture, " but does amount to a loving and caring relationship between a pet and his or her owner. Like humans, pets are happier when they are healthier. Not the other way around. Your analysis of this situation is blatantly wrong, misguided, and base on out dated stereo types! > Posted 12 Hours Ago > DonFW1 > Las Vegas, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 That's exactly what I do, Jenny. I look for the pet foods in "natural" stores. Danielle EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me vegan-network From: jgreeneDate: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:42:16 +0000Re: [100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs? It is my understanding that cats are 'true' carnivores, that there is a particular amino acid that is only available in meat. Apparently there is a supplement that you can give you cat to provide this. I would not put my cats on a vegan diet, they are what they are. I try to give them food with as little additives as possible. Jennyvegan-network , Danielle Kichler <veggietart wrote:>> > I have to disagree with you, Don, and not just because you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". While my cat is overly curious about my food and has a tendency to steal crackers (and other vegan junk food), she still prefers the meat-based food I give her. She was 10 when I went veg, and a radical change in the diet of an older creature would, I feel, have been detrimental to her.> > > Danielle > > > > > > > > EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD> Join me> > > > > vegan-network > swpgh01.t21 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:02:06 +0000> [100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs?> > > > > > http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Vegan-Cats-and-Dogs.aspx> Let me get this straight. More and more vegan pet owners are working to convert their dogs and cats to their dietary lifestyle – this according to reports in the Huffington Post? (1) First of all, my beliefs on trapping and keeping animals in the home for one's own amusement is a little radical. I'm not in favor of it. Domesticated dogs and cats by now have little choice but to be in people's homes as pets, but honestly, this is something unnatural for the animals. But, all of that aside, converting your dog or cat to any form of vegetarianism when both are carnivorous animals because of your own beliefs is perturbing and nearly the equivalent of torture. It proves to me, once again, that people should not be allowed to possess animals. It's not a matter so much as to the health of the animals because surely a dog or cat can survive on soy protein as well as a person. But, the unnatural aspect of this and the forcing of a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance. What is the difference between these people forcing their dog or cat to become a vegetarian than their children? Their children will grow up and make a choice for themselves, whereas the dogs and cats are at the mercy of their owners. It's unfathomable why people would think this is a fair and just decision to impose on them as if keeping them as house pets isn't sufficiently degrading to the free soul of an animal. Now if you want to put a bowl of carrot puree mixed with soy flower and one of tuna and let your cat decide, fine. But, don't force it to eat something so unnatural as to its normal parameters as to be bordering on torture. The most odd thing about it is that is contradicts the very nature of the lifestyle of a Vegan. Vegans are people who do not believe that anything should die so that they should eat. They have a pure love of living things. Why on earth would a person with such pure love for all living things force another creature to eat food so outside the realm of its own natural diet? It's just so very odd and contradictory. > COMMENT :> Your an idiot! If a vegan pet owner wishes to convert his or her pet to veganism, then so be it. Just like when humans make the decision to dis-include rotting animal parts in their diets, the pets will get healthier, live longer, and enjoy life more. Plus, this decision will reduce the need to kill other living species for food. Plus, this decision is better for the environment. > > As far as you put it, "forcing a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance." Frankly, that statement is stunningly arrogant! Dogs and cats don't think in terms of right or wrong moral decisions. You speak of going vegan as if it, "borders on torture." Just like when humans go vegan, pets will be able to eat MORE, eat a great VARIETY of foods, ENJOY their foods, and again become HEALTHIER because of it. They won't be wondering around the house moaning for animal muscle and secretions, as if that is the only and best source of dietary happiness in animals. > > As a responsible and loving pet owner, the only and best decision to make would be to feed your pet vegan food. This doesn't amount to "torture," but does amount to a loving and caring relationship between a pet and his or her owner. Like humans, pets are happier when they are healthier. Not the other way around. Your analysis of this situation is blatantly wrong, misguided, and base on out dated stereo types! > Posted 12 Hours Ago > DonFW1> Las Vegas,> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM, scogingj <jgreene wrote: > It is my understanding that cats are 'true' carnivores, that there is a > particular amino acid that is only available in meat. That's taurine. What most people do not know is that commercial meat-based cat foods already contain synthetic taurine, because the natural taurine that was in the meat gets destroyed during the rendering process. > Apparently there is a > supplement that you can give you cat to provide this. Synthetic taurine has been available for many decades. Vegecat (www.vegepet.com) is a supplement that contains not only taurine, but also a balanced formula of other vitamins, minerals, and amino acids for cats. You can use this supplement powder in recipes (a recipe sheet comes with the supplement or can be viewed online), to make your own cat food at home. Evolution (www.petfoodshop.com) makes prepared vegan cat food, both canned and dry, that you can feed right out of the can or the bag. However, it is extremely expensive, and my cats vomit if they eat too much of the kibble. What I do for my cats is, I make one of the Vegecat recipes (the one with chickpeas and soy), and I add a small amount of canned Evolution for extra flavor. That's their main food: a homemade moist Vegecat recipe flavored with a bit of canned Evolution. I then sprinkle a pinch of Evolution kibble over it, so they can exercise their teeth on something crunchy. I have seven very healthy, contented, bright-eyed, shiny-furred, purry vegan cats, who now range in age from about four to nine years. Five of the seven (including the four oldest ones, now seven to nine years old) have been with me, and totally vegan, since they were kittens. You can see pictures of them at http://j8scats.shutterfly.com (note that the cats in the " available for adoption " album have since been adopted, except for one who's about to be adopted next week). For dogs it's a lot easier: Natural Balance Vegetarian Formula kibble is vegan, and it's an extremely reputable high-quality brand. I've had vets who were initially skeptical about my dogs' vegan diet, whose attitude changed visibly the moment I mentioned Natural Balance as the brand I feed. Jim Sinclair jisincla www.jimsinclair.org http://moosepuppy.petfinder.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Ditto. I won't take any risks on harming my cats. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Danielle Kichler <veggietart wrote: That's exactly what I do, Jenny. I look for the pet foods in " natural " stores. Danielle EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me vegan-network From: jgreeneDate: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:42:16 +0000 Re: [100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs? It is my understanding that cats are 'true' carnivores, that there is a particular amino acid that is only available in meat. Apparently there is a supplement that you can give you cat to provide this. I would not put my cats on a vegan diet, they are what they are. I try to give them food with as little additives as possible. Jennyvegan-network , Danielle Kichler <veggietart wrote:>> > I have to disagree with you, Don, and not just because you don't know the difference between " your " and " you're " . While my cat is overly curious about my food and has a tendency to steal crackers (and other vegan junk food), she still prefers the meat-based food I give her. She was 10 when I went veg, and a radical change in the diet of an older creature would, I feel, have been detrimental to her. > > > Danielle > > > > > > > > EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD> Join me> > > > > vegan-network > swpgh01.t21 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:02:06 +0000> [100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs?> > > > > > http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Vegan-Cats-and-Dogs.aspx > Let me get this straight. More and more vegan pet owners are working to convert their dogs and cats to their dietary lifestyle – this according to reports in the Huffington Post? (1) First of all, my beliefs on trapping and keeping animals in the home for one's own amusement is a little radical. I'm not in favor of it. Domesticated dogs and cats by now have little choice but to be in people's homes as pets, but honestly, this is something unnatural for the animals. But, all of that aside, converting your dog or cat to any form of vegetarianism when both are carnivorous animals because of your own beliefs is perturbing and nearly the equivalent of torture. It proves to me, once again, that people should not be allowed to possess animals. It's not a matter so much as to the health of the animals because surely a dog or cat can survive on soy protein as well as a person. But, the unnatural aspect of this and the forcing of a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance. What is the difference between these people forcing their dog or cat to become a vegetarian than their children? Their children will grow up and make a choice for themselves, whereas the dogs and cats are at the mercy of their owners. It's unfathomable why people would think this is a fair and just decision to impose on them as if keeping them as house pets isn't sufficiently degrading to the free soul of an animal. Now if you want to put a bowl of carrot puree mixed with soy flower and one of tuna and let your cat decide, fine. But, don't force it to eat something so unnatural as to its normal parameters as to be bordering on torture. The most odd thing about it is that is contradicts the very nature of the lifestyle of a Vegan. Vegans are people who do not believe that anything should die so that they should eat. They have a pure love of living things. Why on earth would a person with such pure love for all living things force another creature to eat food so outside the realm of its own natural diet? It's just so very odd and contradictory. > COMMENT :> Your an idiot! If a vegan pet owner wishes to convert his or her pet to veganism, then so be it. Just like when humans make the decision to dis-include rotting animal parts in their diets, the pets will get healthier, live longer, and enjoy life more. Plus, this decision will reduce the need to kill other living species for food. Plus, this decision is better for the environment. > > As far as you put it, " forcing a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance. " Frankly, that statement is stunningly arrogant! Dogs and cats don't think in terms of right or wrong moral decisions. You speak of going vegan as if it, " borders on torture. " Just like when humans go vegan, pets will be able to eat MORE, eat a great VARIETY of foods, ENJOY their foods, and again become HEALTHIER because of it. They won't be wondering around the house moaning for animal muscle and secretions, as if that is the only and best source of dietary happiness in animals. > > As a responsible and loving pet owner, the only and best decision to make would be to feed your pet vegan food. This doesn't amount to " torture, " but does amount to a loving and caring relationship between a pet and his or her owner. Like humans, pets are happier when they are healthier. Not the other way around. Your analysis of this situation is blatantly wrong, misguided, and base on out dated stereo types! > Posted 12 Hours Ago > DonFW1> Las Vegas,> -- AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156http://x-bluerose-x.livejournal.com~Boston_Gothic Boston_MysticBoston-Pagans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Taurine. vegan brand cat foods (at least the ones i know of) synthesize it scogingj Mar 30, 2009 7:42 AM vegan-network Re: [100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs? It is my understanding that cats are 'true' carnivores, that there is a particular amino acid that is only available in meat. Apparently there is a supplement that you can give you cat to provide this. I would not put my cats on a vegan diet, they are what they are. I try to give them food with as little additives as possible. Jennyvegan-network , Danielle Kichler <veggietart wrote:>> > I have to disagree with you, Don, and not just because you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". While my cat is overly curious about my food and has a tendency to steal crackers (and other vegan junk food), she still prefers the meat-based food I give her. She was 10 when I went veg, and a radical change in the diet of an older creature would, I feel, have been detrimental to her.> > > Danielle > > > > > > > > EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD> Join me> > > > > vegan-network > swpgh01.t21 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:02:06 +0000> [100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs?> > > > > > http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Vegan-Cats-and-Dogs.aspx> Let me get this straight. More and more vegan pet owners are working to convert their dogs and cats to their dietary lifestyle – this according to reports in the Huffington Post? (1) First of all, my beliefs on trapping and keeping animals in the home for one's own amusement is a little radical. I'm not in favor of it. Domesticated dogs and cats by now have little choice but to be in people's homes as pets, but honestly, this is something unnatural for the animals. But, all of that aside, converting your dog or cat to any form of vegetarianism when both are carnivorous animals because of your own beliefs is perturbing and nearly the equivalent of torture. It proves to me, once again, that people should not be allowed to possess animals. It's not a matter so much as to the health of the animals because surely a dog or cat can survive on soy protein as well as a person. But, the unnatural aspect of this and the forcing of a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance. What is the difference between these people forcing their dog or cat to become a vegetarian than their children? Their children will grow up and make a choice for themselves, whereas the dogs and cats are at the mercy of their owners. It's unfathomable why people would think this is a fair and just decision to impose on them as if keeping them as house pets isn't sufficiently degrading to the free soul of an animal. Now if you want to put a bowl of carrot puree mixed with soy flower and one of tuna and let your cat decide, fine. But, don't force it to eat something so unnatural as to its normal parameters as to be bordering on torture. The most odd thing about it is that is contradicts the very nature of the lifestyle of a Vegan. Vegans are people who do not believe that anything should die so that they should eat. They have a pure love of living things. Why on earth would a person with such pure love for all living things force another creature to eat food so outside the realm of its own natural diet? It's just so very odd and contradictory. > COMMENT :> Your an idiot! If a vegan pet owner wishes to convert his or her pet to veganism, then so be it. Just like when humans make the decision to dis-include rotting animal parts in their diets, the pets will get healthier, live longer, and enjoy life more. Plus, this decision will reduce the need to kill other living species for food. Plus, this decision is better for the environment. > > As far as you put it, "forcing a moral decision onto another creature is stunning in its arrogance." Frankly, that statement is stunningly arrogant! Dogs and cats don't think in terms of right or wrong moral decisions. You speak of going vegan as if it, "borders on torture." Just like when humans go vegan, pets will be able to eat MORE, eat a great VARIETY of foods, ENJOY their foods, and again become HEALTHIER because of it. They won't be wondering around the house moaning for animal muscle and secretions, as if that is the only and best source of dietary happiness in animals. > > As a responsible and loving pet owner, the only and best decision to make would be to feed your pet vegan food. This doesn't amount to "torture," but does amount to a loving and caring relationship between a pet and his or her owner. Like humans, pets are happier when they are healthier. Not the other way around. Your analysis of this situation is blatantly wrong, misguided, and base on out dated stereo types! > Posted 12 Hours Ago > DonFW1> Las Vegas,> So, men are scattered and smeared over the desert grass, And the generals have accomplished nothing. -Nefarious War Li Po (Circa 750) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 our dogs are vegan. have been healthy and vegan for many a year. (their entire lil doggy lives actually. and shiva is now ten...) our cats alas, no such luck. started them on vegan cat fud, and while they ate it like gangbusters, they had horrible runs and left lil leaky "presents" all over the haus. was this because of the vegan cat food? unknown. but at the time we didn't want to endanger their health, so they got and get the expensive natural organic dead critter alternative Jim Sinclair Mar 30, 2009 8:44 AM vegan-network Re: [100% veg*n ] Vegan Cats and Dogs? On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM, scogingj <jgreene (AT) tbaytel (DOT) net> wrote:> It is my understanding that cats are 'true' carnivores, that there is a> particular amino acid that is only available in meat.That's taurine. What most people do not know is that commercialmeat-based cat foods already contain synthetic taurine, because thenatural taurine that was in the meat gets destroyed during therendering process.> Apparently there is a> supplement that you can give you cat to provide this.Synthetic taurine has been available for many decades.Vegecat (www.vegepet.com) is a supplement that contains not onlytaurine, but also a balanced formula of other vitamins, minerals, andamino acids for cats. You can use this supplement powder in recipes (arecipe sheet comes with the supplement or can be viewed online), tomake your own cat food at home.Evolution (www.petfoodshop.com) makes prepared vegan cat food, bothcanned and dry, that you can feed right out of the can or the bag.However, it is extremely expensive, and my cats vomit if they eat toomuch of the kibble.What I do for my cats is, I make one of the Vegecat recipes (the onewith chickpeas and soy), and I add a small amount of canned Evolutionfor extra flavor. That's their main food: a homemade moist Vegecatrecipe flavored with a bit of canned Evolution. I then sprinkle apinch of Evolution kibble over it, so they can exercise their teeth onsomething crunchy.I have seven very healthy, contented, bright-eyed, shiny-furred, purryvegan cats, who now range in age from about four to nine years. Fiveof the seven (including the four oldest ones, now seven to nine yearsold) have been with me, and totally vegan, since they were kittens.You can see pictures of them at http://j8scats.shutterfly.com (notethat the cats in the "available for adoption" album have since beenadopted, except for one who's about to be adopted next week).For dogs it's a lot easier: Natural Balance Vegetarian Formula kibbleis vegan, and it's an extremely reputable high-quality brand. I've hadvets who were initially skeptical about my dogs' vegan diet, whoseattitude changed visibly the moment I mentioned Natural Balance as thebrand I feed.Jim Sinclair jisincla (AT) syr (DOT) eduwww.jimsinclair.orghttp://moosepuppy.petfinder.com So, men are scattered and smeared over the desert grass, And the generals have accomplished nothing. -Nefarious War Li Po (Circa 750) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Beautiful cats! vegan-network , Jim Sinclair <jisincla wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM, scogingj <jgreene wrote: > > It is my understanding that cats are 'true' carnivores, that there is a > > particular amino acid that is only available in meat. > > That's taurine. What most people do not know is that commercial > meat-based cat foods already contain synthetic taurine, because the > natural taurine that was in the meat gets destroyed during the > rendering process. > > > Apparently there is a > > supplement that you can give you cat to provide this. > > Synthetic taurine has been available for many decades. > > Vegecat (www.vegepet.com) is a supplement that contains not only > taurine, but also a balanced formula of other vitamins, minerals, and > amino acids for cats. You can use this supplement powder in recipes (a > recipe sheet comes with the supplement or can be viewed online), to > make your own cat food at home. > > Evolution (www.petfoodshop.com) makes prepared vegan cat food, both > canned and dry, that you can feed right out of the can or the bag. > However, it is extremely expensive, and my cats vomit if they eat too > much of the kibble. > > What I do for my cats is, I make one of the Vegecat recipes (the one > with chickpeas and soy), and I add a small amount of canned Evolution > for extra flavor. That's their main food: a homemade moist Vegecat > recipe flavored with a bit of canned Evolution. I then sprinkle a > pinch of Evolution kibble over it, so they can exercise their teeth on > something crunchy. > > I have seven very healthy, contented, bright-eyed, shiny-furred, purry > vegan cats, who now range in age from about four to nine years. Five > of the seven (including the four oldest ones, now seven to nine years > old) have been with me, and totally vegan, since they were kittens. > You can see pictures of them at http://j8scats.shutterfly.com (note > that the cats in the " available for adoption " album have since been > adopted, except for one who's about to be adopted next week). > > For dogs it's a lot easier: Natural Balance Vegetarian Formula kibble > is vegan, and it's an extremely reputable high-quality brand. I've had > vets who were initially skeptical about my dogs' vegan diet, whose > attitude changed visibly the moment I mentioned Natural Balance as the > brand I feed. > > Jim Sinclair jisincla > www.jimsinclair.org > http://moosepuppy.petfinder.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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