Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I have a Chevrolet Express 2500 cargo van. It's mostly been sitting in the driveway for the last couple of months, rarely driven. I just went out to pack it up for a long trip, and discovered that mice have moved into it. There are droppings everywhere. How can I get them out, without harming them? How can I prevent them from coming back in? I've had mice in my house before, and managed to get rid of them using a combination of live traps and relocation, ultrasonic and electromagnetic repellers, and having a repairman come find and fill in openings where they were getting in. The process took a long time, though, and needed to be approached from all three angles at once. Removing mice that were already in the house only left an inviting vacant habitat for new mice to move in. Neither blocking cracks nor using repellers got rid of mice that were already in the house, but both seem to be effective in keeping new ones from coming in. I don't have that much time to deal with the mice in my van. I need to get rid of them quickly, because I have to drive some 400 miles, this week, with my four dogs, six cats, and assorted human and animal supplies in the van. I do not want to have mice getting into the supplies, spreading diseases to my animals or to me, getting killed by my animals, provoking loud and potentially dangerous agitation in my dogs (if they get all worked up about trying to catch a mouse, they could end up getting into a fight among themselves), and I don't really want to import mice from one state into another state 400 miles away. HELP?! Jim Sinclair jisincla www.jimsinclair.org http://moosepuppy.petfinder.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Update: I went out Tuesday evening and bought a bunch of Mice Cube live mousetraps. I put them in my van, baited with peanut butter crackers. Before I went to bed Tuesday night, I checked the traps and found a mouse in one of them. It was going to be a cold night, and I didn't want the little beast to freeze, so I brought it into the house and tried to transfer it to a warmer and more spacious holding facility (a covered bucket with bedding, water, and another peanut butter cracker) for the night. As the saying goes, no good deed ever goes unpunished: The mouse made a gigantic LEAP out of the bucket, and disappeared into my mother's basement. There there are eight cats in this house: my mom's two cats, and my six. My six are all vegan, but I think they'd happily go off their diet if they caught a nice juicy mouse. I brought some of the traps out of my van and put them out in the laundry room, where the mouse had escaped. That room is kept closed off to cats, so as long as the mouse had enough sense to stay in the laundry room, there was a chance I could catch it before the cats did. Wednesday morning there was another mouse in a trap in the van, but no sign of the one in the basement. I took Mouse #2 to a local park that has a small wooded area, and set it loose. The video at http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=15078026 shows Mouse #2's release. No more mice were caught, either in the house or in the van, on Wednesday or Thursday. I emptied everything out of the van, in the process of which I found collections of cat litter, animal fur, and shredded paper towels inside a pair of spare shoes I keep in the back of the van (both shoes had nesting materials inside) and in my own travel sheets that I keep under the back seat. (For anyone who's been suggesting that the scent of predators in the van would scare the mice away, the largest accumulation of mouse droppings was found in my cats' travel crate which had a used litter box in it. The mice apparently liked the cat litter as nesting material. They also seemed very fond of nice soft cat and dog fur for their nests.) I took the empty van to a car wash and thoroughly vacuumed out the interior. As of last night, there were no remaining mouse droppings, cat litter, or other signs of rodent occupancy in the van. Then I left it parked overnight, still empty except for the mousetraps. As of noon today, there have been no more mice in the traps, and no new droppings seen inside the van. Inside the house, thinking that Fugitive Mouse might possibly have become wary of peanut butter crackers and ventured out of the laundry room in search of other food, I put Mouse Cubes in the room where we keep the dog food, and in the front closet where my mother keeps birdseed. There was no sign of Fugitive Mouse anywhere. I began thinking the cats must have gotten it. Then, this morning, I checked the traps in the laundry room, and there was Fugitive Mouse! Peanut butter proved irresistible after all. The still photos at http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=15078026 are of Fugitive Mouse, being released in the same place where Mouse #2 (the mouse in the video) was set free on Wednesday. Is it really possible that just two little mice made all that mess in my van?? I still don't know how they got in. When I was emptying everything out of the van, I found a couple of isolated droppings in the front part of the van, including one in the map compartment. But the vast majority of mouse activity had obviously occurred in the back part of the van. Maybe they got in at the front and made their way to the back where they found more comfortable stuff to nest in, or maybe they got in at the back and had just made an exploratory foray up front. Which is more characteristic mouse behavior? Would they mostly stay near where they first got in (the back), or would they get in and then go exploring all the way to the other end of the van, before choosing where to set up housekeeping? Jim Sinclair jisincla www.jimsinclair.org http://moosepuppy.petfinder.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Mice are still getting into my van. I think they're getting in near the back. I've had half my traps set in the front of the van, and half in the back. All four of the mice that I've caught so far were in traps in the rear of the van. My mother's neighbor (a retired car professional of some sort) thinks they're coming in through the ventilation system, through the rear ventilation opening. I don't know where to find that opening. He said to look near the wheel wells. I didn't see any visible openings, but I did see mouse droppings on top of the right rear wheel well. The owner's manual says this about the ventilation system: " Your vehicle's flow-through ventilation system supplies outside air to the inside of your vehicle when it is moving. With the side windows closed, air will flow into the front inlet grilles at the base of the windshield, through the vehicle and out of the rear exhaust valve. " Then it talks about the adjustable heating and air conditioning vents on the front instrument panel, and says that there are similar adjustable vents in the back, if the vehicle has rear heating or rear air conditioning. My van does not have rear heating or air conditioning. It's a cargo van, and didn't even have a rear seat, until I had one put in. So apparently I'm looking for the rear exhaust valve, as a probable mouse entry point. The manual doesn't say where that is. Does anyone know where I can find a diagram of the ventilation system of a 2002 Chevrolet Express 2500 cargo van? Assuming I can find the exhaust openings, anyone know how to safely mouse-proof them without completely blocking air circulation? Jim Sinclair jisincla www.jimsinclair.org http://moosepuppy.petfinder.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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