RE: [100% veg*n ] An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2009

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I must respectfuly disagree with the idea of fasting. After all, as vegans, we want to make our lifestyle as accessible and friendly to people as possible, and a protest fast seems to undermine that. I also get very sick when I try to fast, as countless failed Yom Kippur fasts indicate.

 

Yes, there is a lot of cruelty in the world. Yes, life is imperfect. But we can celebrate the good things in life and show others that we can celebrate the gifts life does bestow upon us without harming another being.

 

This year, as in the past several, I will celebrate with other local veg*ans and the veg-curious at an event sponsored by the local vegetarian society. For me, it's the best option.

Danielle Kichler

 

 

 

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vegan-network From: rlyngryDate: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:31 +0000[100% veg*n ] An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2009

 

 

An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2009NamasteOh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans "waffle" between:A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls;B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those not so casual comments about anti-Veganism;C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange a dinner for like-minded folks;D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by themselves with their Tofurkeys;E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we hurt the feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans;F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards for "dessert;"G) Any other actions you wish to fill-in;H) Not going to these gatherings and fasting.That's right! I said FASTING.I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has been a tradition since 1998.I hope some list members will be joining me on this day of torture, death, greed, selfishness and debauchery by doing the same.My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the MILLIONS of animals that are tortured and abused, then slaughtered just for this one (1) day alone in the U.S.I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run from Wednesday until Sunday.Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful way to clean out the body as far as health is concerned.Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul.Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to a higher being.'It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This was copied from watching animals when they are ill.They either eat greens or nothing at all.Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of protest.Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point across.My fasting tradition has came about when I could no longer go to family gatherings for this 'holiday' and sit around a table infested with dead carcass and by-products.Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we traipsed to our building of worship only to march back to a home full of death, abuse and chemical irresponsibility.Previous years had folks pointing out that this is a time for family and friends getting-together to show their love and thankfulness.But, who needs a "Hallmark" holiday for this occasion?We can get together the other 364 days of the year without the excuse of a 'holiday.'I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded folks for a holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon this holiday as a festive occasion. Why? Because it also represents false facts throughout American history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery and near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name of 'god.' Recent findings are coming out that there was no turkey - or even any kind of 'meat' - at the dinner; only fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains.Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that after these dinners, the male attendees would gather together in front of a television set to watch the bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving the women (slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and watchafter the children.You are invited and welcome to join my discussionlist:SoFlaVegans/[We are really more like an informational "newspaper" with at least 25 postings daily!]Starting soon (way before "ThanXgiving") there will appear articles, information and guides about the history and hypocrisy of ThanXgiving, as well as how to cope with the upcoming holidays (Chanukah, Kwanzaa, Xmas, New Year's).Additionally, you will find ways to fast safely and wisely.For those who wish to "celebrate" and not fast, you will find literally hundreds of recipes and tips, as well!As we ready ourselves for Fur-Free Friday, I wish everyone who is willing to "take the plunge" the best of luck in a successful and quick fast, and may all of our efforts pay off!= = = = = = = = = =Here are my other discussion lists that also contain tons of information in each of their categories – DAILY!!!Please research the message archives for information you are seeking and what you have missed:Everything Yoga!Yoga-With-Nancy/American Sign Language and Deaf CultureSignSoFla/Alternative Schooling Within The School SystemSoFlaSchools/Om ShantiLive Simply So ThatOthers May Simply LiveYoga-With-Nancy/SignSoFla/SoFlaVegans/SoFlaSchools/

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Our Thanksgivings (usually multi-family affairs) improved tremendously when our 14 y.o. niece became a vegetarian a couple years ago. Suddenly, my sister in law and my mother became very interested in Tofurkey, veg broth stuffing, etc. I don't mind good natured teasing of any sort and we got a bit of it previously, but now it seems like there is a bit of respect for our lifestyle due to her impressive decision.

Strength in numbers! Blake On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Danielle Kichler <veggietart wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I must respectfuly disagree with the idea of fasting.  After all, as vegans, we want to make our lifestyle as accessible and friendly to people as possible, and a protest fast seems to undermine that.  I also get very sick when I try to fast, as countless failed Yom Kippur fasts indicate.

 

Yes, there is a lot of cruelty in the world.  Yes, life is imperfect.  But we can celebrate the good things in life and show others that we can celebrate the gifts life does bestow upon us without harming another being.

 

This year, as in the past several, I will celebrate with other local veg*ans and the veg-curious at an event sponsored by the local vegetarian society.  For me, it's the best option. 

Danielle Kichler

 

 

 

EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD

Join me 

 

 

vegan-network From: rlyngryDate: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:31 +0000

[100% veg*n ] An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2009 

 

 

An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2009NamasteOh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans " waffle " between:A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls;

B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those not so casual comments about anti-Veganism;C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange a dinner for like-minded folks;D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by themselves with their Tofurkeys;

E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we hurt the feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans;F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards for " dessert; " G) Any other actions you wish to fill-in;

H) Not going to these gatherings and fasting.That's right! I said FASTING.I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has been a tradition since 1998.I hope some list members will be joining me on this day of torture, death, greed, selfishness and debauchery by doing the same.

My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the MILLIONS of animals that are tortured and abused, then slaughtered just for this one (1) day alone in the U.S.I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run from Wednesday until Sunday.

Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful way to clean out the body as far as health is concerned.Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul.Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to a higher being.'

It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This was copied from watching animals when they are ill.They either eat greens or nothing at all.Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of protest.

Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point across.My fasting tradition has came about when I could no longer go to family gatherings for this 'holiday' and sit around a table infested with dead carcass and by-products.

Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we traipsed to our building of worship only to march back to a home full of death, abuse and chemical irresponsibility.Previous years had folks pointing out that this is a time for family and friends getting-together to show their love and thankfulness.

But, who needs a " Hallmark " holiday for this occasion?We can get together the other 364 days of the year without the excuse of a 'holiday.'I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded folks for a holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon this holiday as a festive occasion. Why? Because it also represents false facts throughout American history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery and near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name of 'god.' Recent findings are coming out that there was no turkey - or even any kind of 'meat' - at the dinner; only fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains.

Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that after these dinners, the male attendees would gather together in front of a television set to watch the bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving the women (slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and watch

after the children.You are invited and welcome to join my discussionlist:SoFlaVegans/[We are really more like an informational " newspaper " with at least 25 postings daily!]

Starting soon (way before " ThanXgiving " ) there will appear articles, information and guides about the history and hypocrisy of ThanXgiving, as well as how to cope with the upcoming holidays (Chanukah, Kwanzaa, Xmas, New Year's).

Additionally, you will find ways to fast safely and wisely.For those who wish to " celebrate " and not fast, you will find literally hundreds of recipes and tips, as well!As we ready ourselves for Fur-Free Friday, I wish everyone who is willing to " take the plunge " the best of luck in a successful and quick fast, and may all of our efforts pay off!

= = = = = = = = = =Here are my other discussion lists that also contain tons of information in each of their categories – DAILY!!!Please research the message archives for information you are seeking and what you have missed:

Everything Yoga!Yoga-With-Nancy/American Sign Language and Deaf CultureSignSoFla/

Alternative Schooling Within The School SystemSoFlaSchools/Om ShantiLive Simply So ThatOthers May Simply Live

Yoga-With-Nancy/SignSoFla/

SoFlaVegans/SoFlaSchools/

[Guest guest]

heh heh

sadly, our thanxfernuthin gathering has slowly been losing its veggies and vegans. we had a ton of em when we first started this shindig like 15 years ago. now i think there might be 6-10 vegans there (out of 100-150 ppl)

but. we do our best

cheers

fraggle

Blake Wilson Nov 15, 2009 1:26 PM vegan-network Re: [100% veg*n ] An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2009

 

 

 

Our Thanksgivings (usually multi-family affairs) improved tremendously when our 14 y.o. niece became a vegetarian a couple years ago. Suddenly, my sister in law and my mother became very interested in Tofurkey, veg broth stuffing, etc. I don't mind good natured teasing of any sort and we got a bit of it previously, but now it seems like there is a bit of respect for our lifestyle due to her impressive decision. Strength in numbers! Blake

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Danielle Kichler <veggietart (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

I must respectfuly disagree with the idea of fasting. After all, as vegans, we want to make our lifestyle as accessible and friendly to people as possible, and a protest fast seems to undermine that. I also get very sick when I try to fast, as countless failed Yom Kippur fasts indicate. Yes, there is a lot of cruelty in the world. Yes, life is imperfect. But we can celebrate the good things in life and show others that we can celebrate the gifts life does bestow upon us without harming another being. This year, as in the past several, I will celebrate with other local veg*ans and the veg-curious at an event sponsored by the local vegetarian society. For me, it's the best option.

Danielle Kichler

 

 

 

EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me

 

vegan-network From: rlyngry Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:12:31 +0000[100% veg*n ] An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2009

 

 

 

An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2009NamasteOh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays where Vegans "waffle" between:A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused souls;B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those not so casual comments about anti-Veganism;C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange a dinner for like-minded folks;D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by themselves with their Tofurkeys;E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we hurt the feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans;F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards for "dessert;"G) Any other actions you wish to fill-in;H) Not going to these gatherings and fasting.That's right! I said FASTING.I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has been a tradition since 1998.I hope some list members will be joining me on this day of torture, death, greed, selfishness and debauchery by doing the same.My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the MILLIONS of animals that are tortured and abused, then slaughtered just for this one (1) day alone in the U.S.I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run from Wednesday until Sunday.Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful way to clean out the body as far as health is concerned.Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul.Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to a higher being.'It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This was copied from watching animals when they are ill.They either eat greens or nothing at all.Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of protest.Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point across.My fasting tradition has came about when I could no longer go to family gatherings for this 'holiday' and sit around a table infested with dead carcass and by-products.Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we traipsed to our building of worship only to march back to a home full of death, abuse and chemical irresponsibility.Previous years had folks pointing out that this is a time for family and friends getting-together to show their love and thankfulness.But, who needs a "Hallmark" holiday for this occasion?We can get together the other 364 days of the year without the excuse of a 'holiday.'I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded folks for a holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon this holiday as a festive occasion. Why? Because it also represents false facts throughout American history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery and near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name of 'god.' Recent findings are coming out that there was no turkey - or even any kind of 'meat' - at the dinner; only fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains.Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that after these dinners, the male attendees would gather together in front of a television set to watch the bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving the women (slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and watchafter the children.You are invited and welcome to join my discussionlist:SoFlaVegans/[We are really more like an informational "newspaper" with at least 25 postings daily!]Starting soon (way before "ThanXgiving") there will appear articles, information and guides about the history and hypocrisy of ThanXgiving, as well as how to cope with the upcoming holidays (Chanukah, Kwanzaa, Xmas, New Year's).Additionally, you will find ways to fast safely and wisely.For those who wish to "celebrate" and not fast, you will find literally hundreds of recipes and tips, as well!As we ready ourselves for Fur-Free Friday, I wish everyone who is willing to "take the plunge" the best of luck in a successful and quick fast, and may all of our efforts pay off!= = = = = = = = = =Here are my other discussion lists that also contain tons of information in each of their categories – DAILY!!!Please research the message archives for information you are seeking and what you have missed:Everything Yoga!Yoga-With-Nancy/American Sign Language and Deaf CultureSignSoFla/Alternative Schooling Within The School SystemSoFlaSchools/Om ShantiLive Simply So ThatOthers May Simply LiveYoga-With-Nancy/SignSoFla/SoFlaVegans/SoFlaSchools/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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