Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 Another one? There won't be anyone left here soon. Still, plenty of room at VegansUncensored... John - " Peter " <metalscarab Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:01 PM Danielle Dear all I sadly have to announce that I have banned Danielle from . This is because of remarks made about me and this list on Vegans Uncensored, and for the fact that she clearly was attempting to cause trouble here. I will make it clear that I will not accept people attempting to stir up trouble over here. We are a friendly list, and trying to stir up trouble for the list, myself, or for members of this list is unacceptable behaviour and is against Terms of Service/ I want to make it clear that this has nothing to do with comments she has made on this list, and that I welcome continuation of the discussion on cats and birds provided everyone remains polite - although I will personally not be taking any more part in that discussion. Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release 14/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 Hi John > Another one? There won't be anyone left here soon. > Still, plenty of room at VegansUncensored... I think the list can survive the removal of 3 troublemakers - we still have 348 other members. And before you get too clever about how many members we have, you might want to check Vegans Uncensored membership - they only have about half the number of members we have on , so I guess we must be doing something right. Perhaps it's just that more people like pleasant conversation than bitching behind people's backs. BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release 14/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 Hi John We do not ~force~ people to join or stay at VeganChat. We hope that people will stay because they enjoy it here, or go if not, without causing trouble. We have no interest in, or worries about how many lists or which lists people belong to. If Danielle was bad-mouthing this list or it's members on another list then it is right that she is banned. We do not wish to keep members at any cost - we just wish to have pleasant list members. Jo - John Davis Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:12 PM Re: Danielle Another one? There won't be anyone left here soon.Still, plenty of room at VegansUncensored...John-"Peter" <metalscarabThursday, August 28, 2003 4:01 PM DanielleDear allI sadly have to announce that I have banned Danielle from .This is because of remarks made about me and this list on Vegans Uncensored,and for the fact that she clearly was attempting to cause trouble here.I will make it clear that I will not accept people attempting to stir uptrouble over here. We are a friendly list, and trying to stir up trouble forthe list, myself, or for members of this list is unacceptable behaviour andis against Terms of Service/I want to make it clear that this has nothing to do with comments she hasmade on this list, and that I welcome continuation of the discussion on catsand birds provided everyone remains polite - although I will personally notbe taking any more part in that discussion.Peter---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release 14/08/03To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Hi Peter, Jo; My comment was a bit deliberately inflammatory/tongue-in-cheek there. (What, me? post something to get a reaction? who'd have thought it?!) However, more seriously, I do worry that whenever something is discussed and contrary opinions expressed, there seems a tendency on this list to immediately try and put a stop to the discussion, label those with the less generally-accepted views as troublemakers, and sometimes ban them. (And not just because I wonder how long it will be before I speak before thinking and get myself banned!). That is the tendency that has been pointed out on the other - veganuncensored - list. But I'm not sure bad-mouthing is the right phrase - just comments on a style of moderation. Peter, it is of course your list to moderate however you wish. But I wonder if it could not stand more discussion and debate than is currently encouraged. I thought the bird/cat debate, for example, was just beginning to get interesting when it was curtailed. On the other hand, the veganuncensored list sometimes goes too far the other way, but perhaps there is a middle ground? John - " Peter " <metalscarab Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:07 PM Re: Danielle Hi John > Another one? There won't be anyone left here soon. > Still, plenty of room at VegansUncensored... I think the list can survive the removal of 3 troublemakers - we still have 348 other members. And before you get too clever about how many members we have, you might want to check Vegans Uncensored membership - they only have about half the number of members we have on , so I guess we must be doing something right. Perhaps it's just that more people like pleasant conversation than bitching behind people's backs. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release 14/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 *gasp* did you all see what I just saw?! Gonna have ta write down this message # fer further reference. Potty mouth! nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote: > Hi John > > > Another one? There won't be anyone left here soon. > > > Still, plenty of room at VegansUncensored... > > > I think the list can survive the removal of 3 troublemakers - we still have 348 other members. > > And before you get too clever about how many members we have, you might want to check Vegans Uncensored membership - they only have about half the number of members we have on , so I guess we must be doing something right. Perhaps it's just that more people like pleasant conversation than bitching behind people's backs. > > BB > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 i really enjoy it here you can enjoy conversion without getting nasty (if people ever think im getting heated i just want to make it clear even when i talk about something serious im not getting touchy or whatever just trying to explain where im coming from so people dont get what im saying wrong (im not very good at explaining myself)Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi John > Another one? There won't be anyone left here soon. > Still, plenty of room at VegansUncensored... I think the list can survive the removal of 3 troublemakers - we still have 348 other members. And before you get too clever about how many members we have, you might want to check Vegans Uncensored membership - they only have about half the number of members we have on , so I guess we must be doing something right. Perhaps it's just that more people like pleasant conversation than bitching behind people's backs. BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release 14/08/03To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 I think you've done a very good explanation. It is good to have discussions without nastiness and it's good to have you here. Jo i really enjoy it here you can enjoy conversion without getting nasty (if people ever think im getting heated i just want to make it clear even when i talk about something serious im not getting touchy or whatever just trying to explain where im coming from so people dont get what im saying wrong (im not very good at explaining myself)Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi John > Another one? There won't be anyone left here soon. > Still, plenty of room at VegansUncensored... I think the list can survive the removal of 3 troublemakers - we still have 348 other members. And before you get too clever about how many members we have, you might want to check Vegans Uncensored membership - they only have about half the number of members we have on , so I guess we must be doing something right. Perhaps it's just that more people like pleasant conversation than bitching behind people's backs. BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release 14/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 John With reference to your email, I must point out that your assumptions are incorrect. The bird/cat discussion has not been curtailed, and Peter pointed out on list that everyone was free to go on discussing that issue. Danielle was banned for calling Peter a name on another list. The ban has nothing to do with her or anyone elses comments on VeganChat or the discussion on this list. As you acknowledge - the list is Peter's - the rules are clear to see for all who join. If people don't like the rules - don't join. If they join and don't like the rules, then leave. The rules will not change - they work well. There are other vegan groups, all with different rules - enough to suit everyone who doesn't like this group. I think the matter should end here and hope that we can now continue with a pleasant list free from troublemakers. Jo ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release 14/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 In a message dated 8/29/03 9:54:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mcxg46 writes: I thought the bird/cat debate, for example, was just beginning to get interesting when it was curtailed. On the other hand, the veganuncensored list sometimes goes too far the other way, but perhaps there is a middle ground? John you never saw the old cat discussion did ya? i thought someone was gonna come thru the monitor screen and throttle me heh... *looks nervously at monitor* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Peter, Just like to show some support. I think you are doing a very hard job very well. Keep it up! The Valley Vegan... > Hi John > > Another one? There won't be anyone left here soon. > > Still, plenty of room at VegansUncensored... > > >I think the list can survive the removal of 3 troublemakers - we still have 348 other members. > >And before you get too clever about how many members we have, you might want to check Vegans Uncensored membership - they only have about half the number of members we have on , so I guess we must be doing something right. Perhaps it's just that more people like pleasant conversation than bitching behind people's backs. > >BB >Peter > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://www.grisoft.com)'>http:\ //www.grisoft.com)</a> >Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release 14/08/03 Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Thank you, Danielle!I am really grateful to have found this group!Yes, I would like information on the online vegan retailers. Thanks!!!BTW - I am trying to lose weight (a lot of weight), and I've tried so many diets & failed, but since I went vegan I'm losing weight effortlessly......................BONUS!!!! )With Lovingkindness,Kathy =^..^="Compassion is the radicalism of our time." - Dalai Lama --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Danielle Kichler <veggietart wrote: Hello, Kathy, and congratulations. I'm sorry if you won't have any friends who are geographically close, but you have us as an online support group. There are a number of vegan online retailers that have lots of options for you. If you'd like info on them, let me know. Danielle EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me vegan-network From: katieliz49230Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:46:09 +0000[100% veg*n ] Introduction Hello, my name is Kathy.I became Vegan on January 4, 2010, after reading the book, 'Skinny Bitch' and watching the documentary 'Food, Inc.'.I wasn't a vegetarian prior to becoming Vegan.My family is not vegetarian or Vegan and have no plans of becoming vegetarian or Vegan. I also live in a small, rural, farming, fishing & hunting community. I have to drive 90 minutes round-trip to buy my groceries at 'Whole Foods'. So, I am looking for some Vegan friends & guides. )I am 49 years old, married, have 2 children, 7 critter-kids and love arts & crafts.With Lovingkindness,Kathy =^..^="Compassion is the radicalism of our time." - Dalai Lama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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