Adapting Recipes

[Guest guest]

Karen S wrote:

 

>I think it may be a good policy to post meat-containing recipes IF they

>could be easily adapted for veggie use.

 

NOT A FLAME: Personally, I think that we should stay away from posting

non-vegetarian recipes on this list. THere are plenty of lists for those

recipes.

 

After all, we're here to encourage

>people to not eat meat, and I'm sure there are people here on this list who

>are not strict vegetarians yet still want to collect meatless recipes. I

>get many recipes from Cooking Light, for example, and I don't feel right

>changing the ingredients to make it vegetarian. Please bear in mind that

>our recipes may end up all over the internet, as Karen & I discussed

>recently, and we don't want to encounter problems as far as the author of

>the recipe is concerned. Just MHO.

 

I understand that posters and the list owner may be concerned about

copyright infringement, etc. The way to get around this is to post your

**adapted** recipe and clearly state it. THis can be done in the title:

Barley Soup (Adapted) or in the " recipe by " : Bon Appetit (Adapted) or in

the Notes: This recipe was adapted to make it vegetarian.

 

Just MHO -- and not intended to start anything bad

 

Candace

[Guest guest]

I subbed to this list because I wanted veggie only recipes, I have dozens of

regular cookbooks that I can certainly go through and make the necessary

changes, but I don't want to.

 

I wanted an easy way to get some good recipes that I would not have to start

fiddling with. I think it u allow postings with meat in them u will lose

alot of members.

 

debbie

[Guest guest]

Dear Candace,

 

Not taken as a flame! Perhaps I didn't word my note correctly. When I wrote

a " meat " -containing recipe could be adapted for vegetarian use, I meant

*easily* adapted, ie vegetable broth for chicken, TSP for ground meat,

veggie links for sausage & hot dogs, and the like. IMHO, there are many

excellent recipes that require only that switch to make them vegetarian, and

I feel we may lose out on them to ban them from the list. When I see

chicken broth in a recipe, I simply change it.

 

We're on this list because we are vegetarian, or want to learn more about

veg. cooking. I am quite sure nobody posts meat-containing recipes to

offend others. To be quite honest, I collect lots of recipes and to go

through each one making changes and notations about adaptations seems

unnecessary work to me, and should be optional, not mandatory.

 

One way to encourage more people to eat less meat and more

vegetable/bean/grain-based products is to give them alternatives using

familiar, previously meat-based recipes. That is the spirit in which I

wrote that. Unfortunately, far too many people think that vegetarian eating

is brown rice, tofu, and seaweed (as my late father, not vegetarian, was

fond of saying to " get my goat " ).

 

I don't want to start " a thing " over this either! In the end, it's up to

our listmom anyhow. JMHO.

 

Karen S

[Guest guest]

I agree...I joined for good vegetarian recipes. The fact that all of them

are supposed to be in Mastercook format is quite a bonus! I have imported

nearly 100 recipes since I joined and am just thrilled with my new " recipe

book. "

 

I say broth is one thing, but meet is another. Unless the recipe has been

tried I don't agree with using " beef or beef substitute " because they simply

do NOT cook the same.

 

Now if I can find it, I'll input and export my recipe for vegetarian chile

that DOES use meat subs, but is something I have tried dozens of times.

(It's a favorite around here.) It is by far the best chile I've ever eaten,

meat or no.

 

Tory

[Guest guest]

> I wanted an easy way to get some good recipes that I would not have to

start

> fiddling with. I think it u allow postings with meat in them u will lose

> alot of members.

 

Hmmm, I think the impression is I'm condoning posting recipes for Beef

Wellington. Not at all. I specified easy substitutions. If, for example,

there is a recipe for a soup that contains vegetables and the only " meat " in

it is chicken broth, I do not think it unreasonable to post it, and I do not

believe it will drive away list members. We are only adding to the

options. Everybody has their own tastes. Some, especially those newly

vegetarian, prefer familiar tastes. Others may prefer grain based, bean

based, etc. We are always free to delete what we don't need or want. I

have been vegetarian for 25 years and have thousands of recipes, and I

frequently encounter ones I already have. That doesn't mean I'm not always

looking for new ideas. I think the more we offer, the better.

 

Karen S

[Guest guest]

Since this is a vegetarian recipe list, all of the recipes should be

vegetarian.

 

I don't see chicken broth as a big deal in a veggie recipe since I use a

chicken broth substitute I buy at Whole Foods.

 

However, I really object to someone taking a recipe that lists 1 pound of

ground beef as an ingredient substituting, 1 pound of tvp and sending it to

the list if they have not tried the substitution themselves.

 

The description of the list as posted on onelist:

 

" This list is for sharing vegetarian recipes (lacto, ovo & vegan) in

*MasterCook format only*. "

 

Until it is changed then I think that all the recipes should be vegetarian.

Those wanting recipes to adapt to vegetarian should find those recipes on

another list.

 

Kathleen

schuller

[Guest guest]

> I don't see chicken broth as a big deal in a veggie recipe since I use a

> chicken broth substitute I buy at Whole Foods.

 

Exactly.

>

> However, I really object to someone taking a recipe that lists 1 pound of

> ground beef as an ingredient substituting, 1 pound of tvp and sending it

to

> the list if they have not tried the substitution themselves.

 

Again, I agree. In that case, it would be wise to state the substitution,

perhaps along the lines of " The original recipe called for ground beef, and

I substituted rehydrated TVP, etc. " since TVP is a material substitution for

ground meat. My contention is that it is unnecesarry to type " adaptation "

every time we substitute veg broth for meat broth. This is my personal

opinion, but I am uncomfortable changing just one ingredient in a recipe,

writing " adapted " , then leaving the original author's name off. I

personally know one person, not on this list, who did exactly that and was

asked to " cease and desist " by the publisher. Our posts do not necessarily

stay private to this list. This is just the procedure *I* prefer to follow

and is not list policy.

 

Karen