Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 Hi Kirsten, Thanks for correcting me. The situation you described is even worse than the one I interpreted. The newspaper article made them out as victims, not accessories. Can anything be done to help them? Can't they be held legally liable for the missing tigers? This is atrocious, do you think it's of any use to start a petition or similar? I was just worried what will happen to the tigers when it does close. Can you fill us in on what's being done, if anything? Can they not be released into the wild or taken to another conservation park elsewhere? Can't the Chinese Government or CITES prosecute them or something? Would love to hear your thoughts on my questions, Christine Kirsten Conrad [ Wednesday, 7 February 2001 16:02 'Christine'; 'TeenActivist'; 'LoveAllAnimals'; 'Helptheanimals'; 'Greenvibrations'; 'Animals'; 'Animaladvocacy'; 'Animalactionalerts'; aapn [animalactionalerts] Chinese tiger breeding center facing dire financial straits More funding for the Chinese Tiger Breeding Center is not the solution to the problems it faces. As someone who has performed an in-depth assessment of this operation (on www.5tigers.org, look under research and then Amur tigers) and as author of a coming book on Savings Asia's Wild Cats, I feel qualified to speak on the topic. First, this Center was started in 1986 with the sole purpose of breeding tigers to harvest for use in traditional Chinese medicine. China joined CITES in 1981, but never passed the internal legislation necessary to outlaw trade in endangered species until 1983. At this time, the Center continued to breed tigers, and all dead animals were (and still are) placed in a freezer in anticipation of making future sales. Facing financial difficulties, in 1996 a " wildlife park " in Harbin was established, where people could visit and see tigers. The Center continued to breed tigers at an artificially high rate, removing cubs from their mothers, thereby bringing the females into heat two to three times a year. When I made my assessment in late 1999, sixteen females were actively bred, theoretically resulting in over 100 new tigers per year based on the survival rates as reported by the Center's officials. According to population figures as reported by the Center, there are far, far fewer tigers than there should be when one pieces together the data based on models used by captive breeding experts. In particular, the number of young tigers is disproportionate to the number of mature adults, fueling suspicion that the older ones are being culled and harvested. The Center has repeatedly refused to provide an explanation for the discrepancy. Until it does this it will continue to be shunned by the international conservation community. So, why is China continuing to breed tigers when it claims to be unable to feed the ones that it has? This is the key question which must be answered. Where are the missing tigers? Until the Center is prepared to open its records and account for missing tigers, it cannot take part any legitimate conservation effort and should be closed, with its tigers turned to good (i.e. educational) purposes. Kirsten Conrad AsiaCat Christine [friesian7] Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:07 AM TeenActivist; LoveAllAnimals; Helptheanimals; Greenvibrations; Animals; Animaladvocacy; Animalactionalerts; aapn FW: (CN) Chinese tiger breeding center facing dire financial straits This is so sad, do you think it's worth writing to their govt urging more funds be spent on these gorgeous creatures? I also noted this.. “In 1992, the government bowed to international pressure and imposed a ban on trade in parts of the endangered species, supporting the Convention of the International Treaty of Endangered Species (CITES). Officials from the center cried foul, complaining to the China Youth Daily that Beijing's ban on sales of tiger products had forced it to stop culling tigers and run into debt.” So if you do want to write a letter you might want to also point out that they need more FUNDS and culling should NOT be an option. I have looked for almost an hour in the search for contact details for the Chinese Ministry of Forestry or Tourism, but no luck. Does anyone have these contact details by chance? Or know where to get them? Christine Dr John Wedderburn [john] Saturday, 20 January 2001 19:49 AAPN List (CN) Chinese tiger breeding center facing dire financial straits Financial woes at China's largest breeding center for the critically endangered Siberian tiger have forced smaller feedings and other cuts in efforts to prepare the cats to return to the wild, the official Xinhua News Agency reported Wednesday. The Hengdaohezi Feline Breeding Center has outstanding debts of 20 million yuan (USD2.4 million) and continues to come up short due to a lack of help from the government, the report said. The center and the nearby Harbin Siberian Tiger Park are home to 160 Siberian tigers and expect another 60 cubs to be born this year. However, staff may try to curb births due to the financial problems, Xinhua quoted director Wang Ligang as saying. Numbers of Siberian tigers have been devastated over recent decades by poaching and destruction of forest habitat in northeastern China and the Russian Far East. Approximately 500 survive, 200 of those in captivity, the report said. Wang said the center needs 15 million yuan (USD1.8 million) a year to keep the animals and pay staff, but tourism brings in only 9 million yuan (USD1.1 million). Government funding fails to make up the difference. Center staff hope to earn additional money by leasing tigers to zoos, raising donations from the public and building new attractions that present the tigers without cages, the report said. Staff at the center were unreachable for comment. [More about Hengdaohezi at: http://www.5tigers.org/China/conrad.htm ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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