Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 - " Jill Robinson " <moonbear " Young, Briony " <Briony.Young If approval was given to farm these dogs " humanely " the cruelty would simply go underground - and would create a precedent for accepting dog consumption in countries across Asia - including those where no anti-cruelty legislation exists. Unlike other domestic animals raised for food, dogs are carnivores. In intensive rearing situations they fight - sometimes to the death - over water, food or even the right to lie down in cramped conditions. Dr. Les Sims of the Hong Kong Government Agriculture Fisheries and Conservation Department states that no country in the world has developed a humane way of raising and slaughtering dogs and that, in their opinion, it cannot be done. More and more people in Asia believe that dogs have earned their place in society as companions and helpers - they want consumption of this species to end. Hong Kong, the Philippines, and Taiwan have banned the practice - that is the precedent to follow. -- Jill Robinson MBE Animals Asia Foundation Find out more about the historic China Bear Rescue by visiting the Animals Asia Foundation website at http://www.animalsasia.org " Young, Briony " wrote: Agreed, I think that if the dogs and cats were killed humanely in the same way that our chickens,cows, etc are in western society then half the battle would be over. Granted that there are some terrible holding yards but at least everything is done quickly and with no torture. It's Their Destiny [itstheirdestiny] Saturday, 2 March 2002 10:26 Total Animal Liberation Re: Korean Delicacy? I was absolutely stunned to read this. The sheer arrogance of this email is staggering, to say the least! " OUR torturing and killing of farmed animals for food, is just as UNacceptable as the Korea's torturing and killing of cats and dogs, and we fight them accordingly regardless of race or nationality! " Absolute bollocks! There does appear to be a tendency amongst vegetarians to believe that they are so without imperfection that they have the right to criticise us lowlier mortals with impunity. In that respect, they may be right - if it makes them happy, I have no problem with that. What I cannot accept however is the ASSERTION, not argument, that a dog hung and beaten with bats to tenderise its flesh before it EVENTUALLY chokes to death, or a cat skinned WHILE STILL ALIVE, suffers no more than an animal killed in a western abattoir.I sincerely hope that Adela was stoned when she wrote this. That at least may make it forgivable.Russwww.itstheirdestiny.uk6.net - Total Animal Liberation Dogaid Australia Friday, March 01, 2002 11:12 PM Re: Korean Delicacy? Hello Kat: You wrote an excellent letter! But may I refer to your paragraph:<<other cultures eat snails and frogs and cows, etc. The difference is, those animals arent tortured.>> Please be informed that ALL animals used for food anywhere in the globe suffer just as much as the Korean cats and dogs, if not more, since each farmed animal must endure SEVERAL YEARS of torture...before brutal murder! Evidently you are not familiar with the factory farms and slaughterhouses, animal laboratories, fur trappings, fur farms, etc. everywhere, but especially in America and Europea. Please visit the following sites: http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/animals.htmlhttp://www.eggcruelty.com/ Debeaking.asphttp://www.novivisezione.org/mostra/index_en.htm;http://www.fac toryfarming.com/gallery.htmhttp://www.meatsource.comIf you'll take just a few minutes to visit these and many of their links, you'll see horrors never imagined, and during the entire existence of the animal! I too used to say the same as you, until I couldn't resist any more to recognize that all the OTHER animals gobbled up by humans suffer enormously physically, mentally and spiritually, and realized that we do exactly the same thing: The Korean butchery tortures them deliberately, while the rest of the world butchery tortures them for profits!!!!! Different goals - same bloody slavery!!!!!!! I now always shut their mouths with a segment I add to my letters: <<OUR torturing and killing of farmed animals for food, is just as UNacceptable as the Korea's torturing and killing of cats and dogs, and we fight them accordingly regardless of race or nationality!>> This way, they won't be throwing at us that we TOO torture/murder animals. We anticipate it to them and ADMIT that it is WRONG, and that we are ALSO fighting against this cruelty in our country and any other countries. Adela ----- Original Message ----- " Dogaid Australia " <dogaidTo: > >Kat Bennett <katpbennett > >dogaid > >Korean Delicacy? > >Wed, 27 Feb 2002 05:32:14 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Dear Laura, > > > > There was a piece on National Public Radio in the US on Feb. 20 on the > >dog meat issue. Go to http://search1.npr.org/search97cgi/s97_cgi to hear > >the piece (you'll need Flash). > > I sent the following letter. NPR has a habit of reading letters on the > >air. I hope they read mine. > > By the way, one of my colleagues just told me a wrenching tale of a > >friend of his, who was touring the city of Taegu in 1995. The friend and > >his wife had gotten lost, and found themselves within an open-air market. > >They were horrified to find that they'd wandered into the dog and cat meat > >market and their first view was a cat that had been skinned, but was still > >alive. The poor creature was screaming in pain! > > > >Kat Bennett > > > >Dear Morning Edition: > > > > I listened with interest to Eric Weiner's report from Seoul about the > >issue of the Korean practice of eating dogs. I'm an American, teaching > >English in Seoul, and I've had some firsthand experience with the issue of > >dog meat here. It has come up more than once as a topic of discussion among > >my students; and I personally have lost dog " friends " to the industry. > > Although Eric Weiner did a great job of presenting the views of > >outspoken critics and supporters of the practice, his piece completely left > >out the most important element to the protests against Korea's dog meat > >industry: the fact that the animals are horribly tortured before they're > >killed. > > There's a belief, common amongst those who eat dog meat, that if a dog > >is tortured and killed slowly that the meat will be tastier, and that men > >who eat this meat will have greater sexual virility. Dogs are hung by the > >neck and repeatedly electrocuted. The fur is then burned off the dog with a > >blow torch. Recent eye-witness accounts at the Moran dog meat market here > >in Seoul reported that the animals aren't always dead for this procedure. > >Sure, there are laws against torturing animals, but the laws are not > >enforced. > > And, don't think this only pertains only to dogs. Cats are treated with > >even more cruelty. Like dogs, cats are crammed together into cold, metal > >cages, with no food, no water, no shelter from the weather. Besides being > >eaten, cats are boiled alive into a tonic that is supposed to cure > >arthritis and rheumatism. > > Medical studies, by the way, have found no truth to these alleged > >benefits of dog stew and cat tonic. > > Contrary to Mr. Weiner's report that dogs raised for meat are raised on > >farms and transported to meat markets, I can tell you that this is not > >always the case. Pets DO end up in the meat markets. Sometimes they're > >stolen, sometimes their sold by their owners as a matter of convenience. > >During my stay here in Seoul, I've made friends with four Korean dogs, who > >were all pets. They were all intelligent animals, totally neglected by > >their owners, who responded to the smallest of kindnesses with joy and > >affection. One was a rare North Korean Poong-san'gae, a breed noted for its > >loyalty and courage, bred to hunt tigers and bears. Another was a Korean > >Chindo mix. Another was a Japanese Akita. The fourth was a little, brown > >mutt, who more than once displayed her gift for killing rats. > > When the responsibilities of owning a pet became too much for the > >owners, all four of these dogs were sold for dog meat. So much for the " two > >kinds of dogs " argument. > > Another favorite argument here is that other cultures eat snails and > >frogs and cows, etc. The difference is, those animals arent tortured. > > I want to make it clear that there's far more to this issue than > >foreigners telling Koreans what they can and can't eat. If they want to eat > >dogs, fine, I won't argue. But if they insist that the animals must be > >tortured, then Koreans shouldn't be surprised when people like Brigit > >Bardot call the practice " barbaric. " My own students have called it > > " savage " and " disgusting. " > > Torture doesn't usually fit into the definition of civilized behavior. > > > >Kat Bradley-Bennett > >Seoul, South Korea > > > > > > > > " I came to live my life out loud. " > >- Emil Zola - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 I think we need humane method to kill animals because some people want to eat meat .Not because we approve killing.According to lord Budda`s teaching one can eat meat if he has not heard or seen that the animal was killed to get meat. For an example they are free to eat road kill. But unfortunately christians and Muslims are taking the lead in Sri lanka and there are lot`s of slaughter houses.In some parts Buddhists eat more meat than christians . Singapore has lot`s of soya meat with differen`t flavours. If the animal loving Korean`s can introduce such soya product with dog and cat`s flavour to Korean market it would help the Korean dogs and cats . Indian food also help vegetarianism. I read British women`s magazine has empasised that soya has lot`s of hormones which would help to look young .IfA doctor has mentioned that . If Koreans can introduce Indian food or Indian cooking in their national TV that would also help . Recently there was a protest campaign against Halal slaughter house in Colombo. Halal is a cruel method to kill animals where animal feels pain while it is allowed to bleed while spinal cord is intact. Though they have managed to stop that slaughter house butchers bring 9 carcasses of cattle to Colombo.I know these animals were not killed humnely. We have requested the ministers again and again but still that happens. Thanks to Peta and Kadamalla producer Mr Senaratne Lot`s of Sri Lankan`s gave up eating meat after they saw meat your meat video. Kala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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