Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 According to the article, " The China Daily said the civet extermination campaign was being carried out mainly by ``braising and steaming''. " Braising and steaming sounds like a terrible way to die. One would have thought that the civets, who were farmed for human consumption, could have been discarded in a human fashion. I can only hope that the animal's nervous system shut down quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 I saw from the media that it was drowning. I understand that " braising and steaming " is the way they are cooked after slaughter. Chris Osborn - " Kirsten Conrad " <asiacat " AAPN " <aapn > Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:39 PM Civet Extermination > According to the article, " The China Daily said the civet extermination > campaign was being carried out mainly by ``braising and steaming''. " > > Braising and steaming sounds like a terrible way to die. One would have > thought that the civets, who were farmed for human consumption, could have > been discarded in a human fashion. I can only hope that the animal's > nervous system shut down quickly. > > > > For more information on Asian animal issues, please use the search feature on the AAPN website: http://www.aapn.org/ or search the list archives at: aapn > Please feel free to send any relevant news or comments to the list at aapn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Hi, doesn't this strike anybody as a 'Witch hunt' ? When I read the hate-filled comments in Chinese newspapers in regard to the Civet cats - how they felt that 'not one must be left alive' or 'Watch the civets turn to vapour'. I mean - this is scapegoating these animals who have no part in all this - never wanted to. If someone needs to be punished then surely it must be those who involved in this trade and who, despite the known health risks, keep going at it. I am sorry - I don't want to sound hysteric - but it infuriates me beyond belief to see these creatures treated with such brutality; this whole issue pursued with such ignorance ('kill them all'). When I read the term 'extermination', having been raised in Germany, what comes to my mind first and foremost is the brutal slaughter of thousands of innocents in the last century. The perpetrators of this atrocity would call their victims conveniently by the name of 'pest' and therefore justify the 'need' for this extermination. I see this mass killing of innocent 'by-standers' in China now as no different. And the mass murder of cattle and sheep in Europe during the BSE and foot and mouth outbreaks belongs in that same category. Is it just me or is it becoming increasingly common these days to pronounce death sentences for thousands of individuals as easily as snipping one's fingers ? 10.000 civet cats here, 450 calves there (precautionary BSE cull - US), a few million lab animals today (EU chemicals policy), several thousand Wapiti deer tomorrow (US precautionary cull - Foot and mouth). We are not even talking about the individual animals here anymore - y'know - as I write this I see a civet's panicky round eyes disappear below the water line in a tank where it is lowered into with its cage. I see its claws grabbing helplessly at the mesh of its cage; I see it struggle, realising it is trapped; trying to come to the surface to breathe and being brutaly pushed under again .... until finally it takes water into its lungs and the body goes into conculvions, and then rigid. This is what happens right now about 10.000 times. It makes me ill to think there is nothing I can do. I takes my sleep away at night - because I can't understand it. I should think in this Forum there are many who think like me. I'd like to know what YOU do to cope with it. I am at my wit's end. Diana Hartig - Chris Osborn Kirsten Conrad ; AAPN Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:10 PM Re: Civet Extermination I saw from the media that it was drowning. I understand that " braising and steaming " is the way they are cooked after slaughter. Chris Osborn - " Kirsten Conrad " <asiacat " AAPN " <aapn > Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:39 PM Civet Extermination > According to the article, " The China Daily said the civet extermination > campaign was being carried out mainly by ``braising and steaming''. " > > Braising and steaming sounds like a terrible way to die. One would have > thought that the civets, who were farmed for human consumption, could have > been discarded in a human fashion. I can only hope that the animal's > nervous system shut down quickly. > > > > For more information on Asian animal issues, please use the search feature on the AAPN website: http://www.aapn.org/ or search the list archives at: aapn > Please feel free to send any relevant news or comments to the list at aapn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Hi, Recently I forwarded the article about the Civet extermination to people whom I thought would help me regarding this issue, but haven't heard any response. Do you or does anybody know whether there are any humane society or similar organizations in China, which could help with this issue. Is there someone who can tell me how to contact. Diana, I am as frustrated as you are, and I hope other people are regarding these terrible killing and abuses of animals, without any regard to them. Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 > I should think in this Forum there are many who think like me. I'd like to know what > YOU do to cope with it. I am at my wit's end. Thank you for letter, Diana. I think the way most of us cope with this is by making sure that we personally have done as much as we as can to change the situation. In most cases, such as this, what we can do is miniscule. But we must use our anger and distress and frustration to fuel us to make more effort to help. In this civet case you can take some comfort in the knowledge that the fate that they are now receiving is actually better than the fate that was in store for them - without this cull they would have been kept confined in miserable cages and then transported in wretched conditions to be slaughtered almost certainly in a worse manner than drowning. And we non-Chinese do not have the moral ground to shout at the Chinese for eating civets until our countries go vegan and we get rid of our slaughterhouses where the methods of death are often no better than drowning. I think the most important thing we can do is to promote vegetarianism and a more gentle lifestyle. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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