Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 listing the physiological differences between carnivores, herbivores, and humans (frugivores). The chart I wish eventually to post here will be far more complete, to include carnivores, omnivores, herbivores, graminovores, and<br>humans/frugivores. In the meantime, here is the url for this simpler chart without as much information, that nevertheless has some important information.<br><br>Habib<br><br><a href=http://www.sunfood.net/fred/chart.html target=new>http://www.sunfood.net/fred/chart.html</a> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 Hey, that's a great chart, thanks for providing the URL to it. Really makes one think. I notice a bias toward showing the similarities between humans and herbivores, however, which I don't necessarily disagree with ;-), but I wonder how the opposite axis might appear. What are some of the similarities between humans and carnivores, I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 That chart is very incomplete...I hope to provide something more complete. Humans are not really herbivores, we are frugivores. There are important differences. <br><br>There is a bias toward similarities between humans and frugivores (fruit eaters), and a bias against showing similarities between humans and carnivores, for the very simple reason that there are similarities between humans and frugivores, and there are not similarities between humans and carnivores. In all the major biological details of a carnivores digestive anatomy and physiology that actually matter as far as classification go, there are certain things that ALWAYS apply to ALL biological carnivores, with no exceptions. None of them apply to humans, so it is not possible for us to be biological carnivores. For instance, all carnivores secrete uricase to break down uric acid. We don't secrete any. The sweat glands of all carnivores are mostly atrophied and non-functional, to keep the toxic uric acid from their diet in more dilute suspension. They cool themselves through panting and a wet nose. Humans and other frugivorous primates sweat freely. For any biological carnivore to sweat the way we do would be an evolutionary dead-end. Carnivores cannot grind food in their mouths because their jaws only move up and down, for tearing off chunks of flesh in large pieces, to swallow whole, along with fur, sinew, bone, etc. Like other fruit eaters, humans' jaws also move side to side, for grinding nuts and seeds to a fine consistency. No biological carnivore can do this. Carnivores can digest large chunks of unchewed flesh, fur, cartilage, and bone. The hydrochloric acid secreted by their stomach is MANY times stronger than ours, which is very weak by comparison. Carnivores lap water, from their natural standing position. Humans must either stoop, or use their hands or some vessel to bring it to their mouths. They suck water, rather than lap it. They are designed to get most of their water from fruits and vegetables, not from drinking. This was a protective mechanism for when they had to stay in the trees to avoid carnivores. They could still get the water they needed from the fruits in the trees. Biological carnivores are able to overpower their prey, without the use of weapons, by sheer brute force, they have claws to grip the prey while they tear it apart with their teeth. Humans have no built-in physical ability to do this. There are many other details just like these, that show humans cannot be BIOLOGICAL carnivores. They are carnivorous by practice only, not by biological classification. We are also not herbivores, omnivores, or graminovores. When I have a better list, I will try to post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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