Extreme health

[Guest guest]

I have the book Fit for Life. People always have

excuses for not going all the way with anything. Sounds

like sour grapes to me I also remember all my old

drinking buddies who said, " not getting drunk once in a

while, is not realistic " . They called me a fanatic, and

the ones who are still alive, still do. I live on the

edge of a rain forest. I think I'll walk over there

this afternoon and grab an Apapani (small hawaiian

bird) and tell him 100% raw is

unrealistic.<br><br><br>How do we define extreme health. cooked foodists and

the medical comunity define health as the absence of

disease. Even in the movie " Unbreakable " , Bruse Willis is

a guy who never gets sick or injured. In other

words someone who goes through life without anything

bad happening to him. I believe extreme health is

much more than that, and I believe all of us, want

more than that. I wouldn't be able to go through this,

if all I would get was the absence of disease. I

think we all want and expect something more. In the

book " Blatant Raw Foodist Propaganda " by Joe

Alexander, he talks about " Paradise Health " which he

discribes as having the best day you ever had, every day.

Also in " Natures First Law " , they also talk about it,

I forget how they discribe it, but they talk about

being " High " on health. I have not experanced it yet

but I have caught glimpses it. It happens because our

minds and our bodies are interconected, when our bodies

reach optimum health, our minds are equaly affected. I

also have read, and believe, that you can not reach

that point without being 100% raw. We reach that point

when we have been completely detoxed of cooked food,

and that can't happen as long as we are adding cooked

food to our system. <br><br>I'm having a lot of

trouble with this site this morning. It might be because

my cat walked across my keyboard while I was online.

I will try posting and see what

happens.<br><br>Doug

[Guest guest]

My girl friend just read my last post and said it sounded mean. I didn't intend

it that way<br><br>Doug

[Guest guest]

Hi Doug...<br><br>The only thing I'm upset with

you about is telling me about the movie!!! Luckily,

you didnt ruin it, but I was told by a friend to not

listen to anything about it! <br><br>My idea was that

being 90-95% raw was so good that I would still be

extremely healthy, so I could enjoy things like CHOCOLATE

sometime again in my life. So telling me I'm weak and like

an alcoholic and making excuses doesnt change my

concepts at all - I'm completely aware of what I'm saying.

<br><br>However, now you're saying that you reach a new level of

unforseen absolute health on 100% raw. That's a whole new

concept to me. If that last 5-10% makes an almost

spiritual level of life happen, then I would reconsider.

Especially since I can test it out for an extended period of

time and see if it's true.<br><br>You say you've only

caught a glimpse of it...how long have you been 100% raw

and why do you think you've only gotten a glimpse?

What other factors are involved? I assume 100% organic

food would be necessary as well. Anything else?

<br><br>By the way, I find that it can be difficult

sometimes to 'argue' in these clubs without sometimes

sounding a bit meaner than intended. I think our whole

goal is to communicate with other people about what

we're interested in and sometimes debate it. I dont

take the messages personally, and I hope no one else

does, in case I've been too mean!<br><br>RAven

[Guest guest]

I also haven't seen the movie, but I think I

caught the jest from the comercials. I will be 100% raw

for 1 year on Dec. 22.<br><br>The best glimpse I got

was yesterday, I went down to the beach to go for a

run. I felt so light and effortless. I felt as though,

if I kicked just a little harder I would float up

into the sky. The road goes through a cow pasture, and

I saw 2 young calves looking at me, and I felt

undiscribable peace and joy. Believe me, I know this sounds

like a lot of spiritual crap.<br><br>Doug

[Guest guest]

I also haven't seen the movie, but I think I

caught the jest from the comercials, of course I'm

probably wrong. I will be 100% raw for 1 year on Dec.

22.<br><br>The best glimpse I got was yesterday, I went down to

the beach to go for a run. I felt so light and

effortless. I felt as though, if I kicked just a little

harder I would float up into the sky. The road goes

through a cow pasture, and I saw 2 young calves looking

at me, and I felt undiscribable peace and joy.

Believe me, I know this sounds like a lot of spiritual

crap.<br><br>Doug

[Guest guest]

I do believe you, Doug, and I find it very interesting.<br><br>Raven

[Guest guest]

The best description I have seen of what some

call " Paradice health " the way I expereance it, is by

Prof. Arnold Ehret who wrote in Mucusless Diet Healing

System:<br> " If your blood 'stock' is formed from eating the

foods I teach (fruits and green-leaf vegetables), your

brain will function in a manner that will surprise you.

Your former life will take on the appearance of a

dream, and for the first time in your existence your

consciousness awakens to a real-self-consciousness.<br> " Your

mind, your thinking, your ideals, your aspirations and

your philosophy changes fundamentally in such a way as

to beggar description.<br> " Your soul will shout for

joy and triumph over all misery of life, leaving it

all behind you. For the first time you will feel a

vibration of vitality through your body (like a slight

electic current) that shakes you delightfully. "

<br><br>There, I new there was a way to say it, without getting

all mushie.<br><br>Doug

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I find that interesting. I meditated 4 hours a

day for 20 years seeking the experiences described

here to no avail. After only 40 days on living foods,

I am starting to glimpse the possibility of

sprirituality.

[Guest guest]

Doug that's seems verily true. My life also gave

me a small glimse of such. Perhaps it works, like,

changing body inputs in terms of food, may likely perhaps

produce output, in terms of your thinking, or outlook,

behaviour, how now you feel and see above the world, full of

pretence. <br>Perhaps another path also is, to provide

space in your physical body, thus leading to providing

something like more space in mind of being expendedness. I

meant fasting for a day or 2. When I used to be in,

that were the best experience even above eating raw

food too.<br><br>with love,<br>Dinesh