Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 I have to discourage unsupervised which is generally what all the fasting experts say.<br><br>Jeff, if you read this can you please elaborate on the potential dangers?<br><br>I beleive various things can go wrong and overwhelm the body, best to have supervision just in case.<br><br>Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 Dear Jeff,<br><br>Yes, I would like to know what the dangers are of an unsupervised 10 day water fast.<br><br>I read that anything over 14 days requires supervision. So maybe 10 days is safe.<br><br>I am starting my 2nd day, only 9 days to go.<br><br>Every day I will log in an tell you how I am going. So you may see if anything is going wrong.<br><br>I am doing this to bring down my blood pressure.<br><br>So far I feel fine except for sinus pain which I expect will go after a day or two as my sinus clears.<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 I found a post of Jeff's that covers this!!<br><a href=http://www.living-foods.com/board/read.php?f=1 & i=22453 & t=22443 target=new>http://www.living-foods.com/board/read.php?f=1 & i=22453 & t=22443</a><br\ ><br>Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 Victor,<br><br>Great luck on the water fast. Keep updating us daily with your experiences. From what I've read, assuming you're pretty healthy and not obese, a 10 day fast is safe (some will disagree and I admit here I'm no expert). Of course if you can have someone supervise you, that might be good (you need supervision!)<br><br>On second thought, this board will supervise you. As long as you post daily, we'll know you're alive and probably ok. If you miss posting, and we see buzzards circling overhead, or there's an evil stench in the winds crossing from Oz over the Pacific to here, we'll send out someone to retrieve you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 Dear Mallon,<br><br>Thank you for thinking of me. Yes I think 10 days is safe. I'm not obese and I am healthy otherwise and I am not under stress, so I'm probably OK.<br><br>I'll update daily except on Sunday. And if anything goes wrong, just how far away is Texas?<br><br>I keep reading about a Texan in the White House so you guys must be doing something right. I do think though that we should be aiming at a Raw Texan in the Top Job. Giddy-up RawHide!<br><br>Thanks for your concern.<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Dear Galapugust,<br><br>Thank you for the information on the dangers of fasting.<br><br>So far I am up to day 2.5 and I feel fine.<br><br>I am higly motivated to continue this 10 day water fast because I want to lower my blood pressure.<br><br>When I saw the graphs of water fasting and blood pressure, I knew that this was an opportunity to deal with a very serious problem I have. So I plan to continue.<br><br>You are a marvel in being able to find the right information at the right time. Thanks.<br><br>I wonder though if I run into electrolyte problems, how would I know, I mean what are the symptoms and what action should I take?<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Perhaps I could avoid the electrolyte problem by drinking some fresh carrot and celery juice halfway through my 10 day water fast. Say day 5.<br><br>What do you think?<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Ok, I have to jump in here and disagree with water fasting " requiring " supervision. All fasting books will tell you this but here's why: To avoid a lawsuit IF something should happen to go wrong. If you're relatively healthy and not on meds, there is no reason to be supervised during a 10 day water fast. I've done it for 8 days and saw no reason whatsoever to have someone supervise me.<br><br>If someone is very sick and/or taking alot of meds, then yes, I'd say it's a good idea to have someone there with you 'just in case'. If nothing else, they'll explain why you feel so lousy and why your skin is breaking out, etc. They'll be able to comfort you when the detox takes place.<br><br>In Roe Gallo's book " Perfect Body " , she talks about many fasts she's personally supervised but these were extremely ill people and needed guidance and reassurance to continue the fast and she explained to them what was happening to their bodies. I gather she's had a 100% successs rate from what she wrote. It's an interesting book.<br><br>Anyway, if you aren't real sick or taking meds, there's no real 'need' to be supervised, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Victor,<br><br>You keep mentioning the fact we have a Texan in the White House. Just to set the record straight, Alan Greenspan runs the country now. He just gave us another 0.5% interest rate cut to help us remain rich, although the greedy stock market would've liked 0.75%. We should be thankful for the 0.5% we got.<br><br>The Texan you refer to is in charge of finding a new world enemy, what with the collapse of Soviet Union etc. We function better as a society when we clearly know who the bad guys are. Helps the common man divert his attention from addressing his personal problems. So the Texan is really in charge of protecting the livelyhood of all the defence industry companies located here in Texas and elsewhere.<br><br>How about an update on the fast. Are you still on a water and cup of juice per day regimin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Dear Mallon,<br><br>Thanks for asking about the fast. It went surprisingly well and easily with nice long term effects. I am grateful for the support I received from the members. I think one small vegetable juice every second day probably kept me away from electrolyte depletion. In fact it was so good I'll do another after a couple of months.<br><br>Psychologically, I know I find it hard to do new things. When I find I can actually do something I am inclined to become over-confident even boastful. So as a fellow member I ask you to give me support when I am starting out, but to mock me unmercifully as I become successful.<br><br>I was very interested in your post. I had imagined you to be somewhat right-wing, but I find you are a thinking Texan.<br><br>In general I agree with your analysis of your economy. Ironically, along with defence industry companies, we are beneficiaries of military socialism. In that we rely on your military under the ANZUS Treaty. So I am not so keen to 'mock the uniforms that guard us while we sleep'.<br><br>Though I am very pleased that I found this wonderful raw food site.<br><br>Thanks for asking about me.<br><br>Victor.<br><br>PS: I met a young Texan on the bus the other day and he called me Sir. I sounded nicely old-fashioned to me. Is this common practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Victor,<br><br>On the simple-minded political spectrum, I'd fall about 85% of the way to the left side. But I also think I'm similar to a lot of people who don't like either extreme or the various types of hypocrites that cling hard and fast to one side or the other. I want reasonably efficient non-obtrusive government that recognizes - like it or not - an obligation to the environment and to set policies that help somewhat rationalize the distribution of wealth. My profession is in the corporate world, and while I support in general free market ideas, total lassez faire (sp?) approach has bad side effects like GM food, factory farms, mad cow, etc and other underirables from capitalism run amok. When the food I'm eating has been altered or drugged without my knowledge, my free choice is stolen and I have a problem with that.<br><br>Growing up in the southern USA I can tell you children used to be taught to address adults as sir or m'aam, but that practice is diminishing in the cities although still prevalent in small towns.<br><br>Although I don't always agree with all your comments, I enjoy your wit (as well as the other posters) and your willingness to express honest -even if unpopular - viewpoints. Seems to be an Aussie trait based on the handfull of Ozmeisters I've known.<br><br>P.S. Don't tell anyone, but I've been known to eat a little raw fish now and then myself but i keep consumption of domesticated animals to an extreme minimum and will probably give it up totally at some point.<br><br>To the others, sorry for going off-subject and I'll try and restrain myself somewhat in this regard. I do think mucking up the food supply in secrecy is a concern for all raw fooders as well as cooked fooders too. And this board is one of my few outlets for venting since most Americans are in the dark about what's happening to our food supply.<br><br>Mallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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