Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Dear Mallon,<br><br>If we perceive by making distinctions, then by making the distinction between raw and cooked, we are creating a perception.<br><br>Tao says there is no raw without cooked and are in or out of balance.<br><br>Redemption, the religion of the West, says that by giving up cooked, we are redeemed by raw.<br><br>That is, Redemption says raw is good, while cooked is bad.<br><br>And Tao says raw and cooked are in or out of balance.<br><br>To think in more than one distinction at once, can produce cognitive dissonance. The advantage is that it tends to dissipate ideology, pre-digested thought, which relies on a simple answer to a complex question.<br><br>Should we eat raw food only?<br><br>Victor,<br>The Instigator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Victor,<br><br>Should we eat raw food only? How the heck should I know?<br><br>I'm a user, a loser, a microphone abuser. To the extreme, I rock a mike like a vandal, light up the stage like a chump with a candle.<br><br>Taoist philosophy seems to explain natural phenomna best. Cooking food is not natural, although it's debatable how bad it is. You're right, " raw foodists " could not exist if there was no such thing as cooked food. We would simply eat food, in it's purest sense, and the concept of " raw " would have no meaning. Then the laws of Tao would be relevant to say it's best to balance yin & yang (acid and alkaline foods). With a raw food diet, this is generally balanced without need of conscious thought. It's cooked food eaters and meat eaters that are usually in a state of acidosis and unbalanced.<br><br>So, to eat 100% raw does not imply imbalance. My personal readings and study from persons I respect who appear knowledgable, suggest that it is best that the majority of foods be eaten raw. A rule of thumb: Eat only foods that will rot or spoil, but eat them before they do so.<br><br>I think the only way to learn whether 100% is superior than, say, 80% raw with some decent cooked food, is to study those that are 100% and follow their progress or commit yourself to 100% raw and make that determination. I'm inclinded to believe the higher raw the better, but at this point in my life and my family situation I'm only striving for 50% plus raw. That's one reason I monitor this board to see how the 100%ers are doing. What percent are you?<br><br>Why do you say religion of the West thinks raw leads to redemption? In Christianity, the common religion of the West, most people believe redemption comes from confesssing your sins to Jesus. Most, but certainly not all, traditional Christians frown upon " unusual " activities and raw foodism would fall in the unusual category. Or are you suggesting many Western raw foodists (regardless of the religious beliefs) are seeking redemption and enlightenment via raw foodism?<br><br>P.S. Excuse the " rap " above - about half of what you type in your messages I cannot understand (I cannot figure out if your intelligence is way beyond mine, or if you're throwing lots of abtract thoughts around just to open up peoples minds, but it does not bother me whichever the case may be). Anyway, I just thought I'd throw something your way.<br><br>Mallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 Dear Mallon,<br><br>I do actually think these abstract thoughts but email is so short that I can only telegraph the essence.<br><br>What seems to be true is that most are comfortable on email with a conversational style and are irritated with any attempt to break out of that form.<br><br>However to discover new ideas, sometimes it is useful to use a new or unusual form.<br><br>It is ironic that in a group devoted to a new and unusual eating habit, we cling so tenaciously to a familiar and comfortable form of expression: the conversational.<br><br>Perhaps a case of new wine in old bottles.<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 Dear Mallon,<br><br>As you know some ideas are best expressed in a particular form. Sometimes they can only be expressed in that form.<br><br>For example some ideas can only be expressed in their fullness in German or Japanese or English. Some ideas are best expressed in Mathematics. Some feelings are best expressed by a style of dance or a style of music or painted colour. Some converstions are best expressed on the telephone, or by email or by an essay or book. A myth may be best expressed by one particular religion or another.<br><br>------------The medium is the message.------------<br><br>The medium we use here is the conversational form. This form is particularly good at providing reassurance, maintaining self-esteem and conveying facts. It is less good at expressing abstract ideas or, interestingly, strong feelings.<br><br>What I find most interesting is that, moving away from the conversational style provokes irritation.<br><br>Why irritation? Why not anger or apathy or curiosity?<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 OK Victor, Glad to hear you confirm you are actually thinking in abstract thought...just need to challenge you occasionally to make sure you're not pulling our leg (joking with us).<br><br>I agree that even under the best of circumstances language and communication barriers sometimes let us down (especially when crossing from one language/culture to another), so we need to focus on the essence in all things and not get caught up in the linguistics. Some of the best things in life have to be experienced, rather than read from text, to gain a full appreciation. The challenge then is picking and choosing where you want to devote your time and focus to make the most of temporal life.<br><br>So stick with your abstract text rather than bow to the masses. And if in the future I need a point of yours clarified, I'll simply ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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