Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Natural Hygienists and people on an all raw diet, mostly don't believe in getting immunizations because they are believed to be harmful and unnecessary because the immune system of raw fooders is able to fend off the viruses. I know flu and colds are no problem as they are few and far between the more raw you are. But what about anthrax? Would our bodies be able to defend itself against that virus?<br><br>More curious than concerned.<br><br>Personally I would pass up an opportunity to get vaccinated against it, or anything else. Just wondering what others thought about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 I've been wondering about Anthrax as well. I don't really fear Anthrax either. But it would be nice to hear from an MD who is a raw foodist like Dr. Gabriel Cousens on this issue.<br><br>I remember reading in one of Arnold Ehret's books that he and his friend went purposely into a leper colony or something like that to prove that they were immune to disease. Apparently they did not catch anything when they did that. <br><br>Lately I've been exposed many times to people who were sick and I did not catch the cold. I hope this will continue. In the past I probably would have been sick. <br><br>I wonder if there is any raw foodist willing to expose themselves to Anthrax to prove that they would not get sick? In fact that would be a great publicity stunt for the Raw Food Movement. A natural antidote or preventative measure for Anthrax. The worst that could happen is that you catch it and that you would have to take the antibiotic. Or maybe there are other methods to deal with the Anthrax once it catches hold in the body.<br><br>All I can say is that I'm really glad that I am 100% raw now, so I can feel relatively safe with all of these so called biological threats.<br><br>By the way the Arnold Ehret books are very interesting even if they are a bit dated. There is still quite a bit of good information in them. He was an inspirational person.<br><br>Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 I read a book several years ago about the history of the Hygienic (raw food) movement.<br><br>Back in the early 1800s, there was an epidemic of bubonic plague. People were dying all over the place except for a small group of christians that seemed to be immune for some reason. A doctor noticed this and after investigating, found that they were following the original diet outlined in Genesis, of fruits grains and nuts.<br><br>I doubt if all raw makes us invincible, but it does give us an extra margin of saftey against all sorts of things. Of course plenty of rest, pure water, sunshine, fresh air, exercise, etc... are all part of it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 The bubonic plague developed out of the deplorable living conditions in the early 1800s. “Cleanliness” was not part of anyone’s vocabulary. People took baths very rarely—perhaps once a month. Even medical doctors did not consider washing their hands before surgery until the mid 1900’s and only did so after much persuasion from hygienic practitioners <br><br>If there was a group of Christians, as you mentioned, who avoided the plague it was because of their “overall” healthy behavior not just their raw food diet. They likely did all the positive things you mentioned and then some that included cleanliness, no alcoholic beverages or smoking.<br><br>It was their over all health from many factors and behaviors that gave them immunity to the plague not just the raw food.<br><br>-OrionsDad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 I have no intention of ever getting anthrax, small pox or any other vaccination being distributed. They are all toxic. If anyone doesn’t think so they should read the ingredients and the warning pamphlet that comes with the vaccine.<br><br>Here are two informative sites about the anthrax vaccine:<br><br><a href=http://www.dallasnw.quik.com/cyberella/index.htm target=new>http://www.dallasnw.quik.com/cyberella/index.htm</a><br><br><a href=http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/anthrax.htm target=new>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/anthrax.htm</a><br><br>Anthrax is highly toxic to our bodies just like any other poisonous substance. It just happens to be invisible with no taste or smell. You can’t detect it with your senses before you are exposed. That’s the problem.<br><br>I don’t think you can be so healthy that you are going to be immune to it. It’s poison to the body. The body is going to react violently to it when exposed just as it would if you inhaled, swallowed or touched another poisonous substance. <br><br>-OrionsDad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Is Anthrax really a poison or is it just a virus or bacteria. If it is a poison then I think raw foodists would be in trouble just like anyone else. <br><br>There have been experiments where people are purposely exposed to a virus and they do not get sick and yet others do. It doesn't even matter if they are raw foodists or not. Some people don't get symptoms with Anthrax either. So it may not be as simple as just being a poison.<br><br>I don't know that much about Anthrax. I spent a couple of minutes at one of the sights you recommended. Do you have a specific page that you recommned for us to read. There were so many choices that I didn't know where to start.<br><br>I do have a quick point on poisoning. I have taken a product in the past that has amazing results in this regard. It is a super powerful antioxidant. Maybe too powerful. <br><br>Anyway it's called Microhydrin or Nanohydrate. The Nanohydrate is a much cheaper version. You can look them up on the web. I heard all sorts of testimonials including people who were poisoned by Scorpions and Poisonous Spiders who were quickly healed of a problem without having to take the antidote. <br><br>For myself I found this product to be very powerful. At first when I took it I became nauseous. Then I noticed that I was very resistant to the hot weather. In fact I stopped taking the product because I wasn't able to develop a good suntan. If you take this stuff you won't get sunburn.<br><br>One time I got sun burned on a couple of spots on my back. That night I took two of the tablets, the next day the burn completely disappeared. I got burned another time and only took one pill and again the burn disappeared. <br><br>So if I ever get poisoned I'll take the Nanohydrate first. I'm sure it will be very effective. <br><br>Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Anthrax is not communicable. It can not be transmitted person-to-person the way a germ can. While i have not been to a doctor or taken any medicine in several decades, i would not hesitate to take Cipro or the 2 new medicines the FDA is approving if i contracted anthrax. Unless you are somebody with enormous amounts of prana like a qigong master, your immune system probably won't be able to deal with something as poisonous as anthrax despite your raw diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 & gt; & gt;i would not hesitate to take Cipro or the 2 new medicines the FDA is approving if i contracted anthrax. & lt; & lt;<br><br>Would you take an immunization against anthrax?<br><br>What about a State sponsered immunization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 Hi all,<br><br>The Anthrax threat has many people becoming more vigilant, which we should of course but...I strongly believe the chance of getting it is very minimal. The most contagious part thing about anthrax is the spread ... of fear and panic which in return can undermine the immune system. (Stress gobbles vit C supply) .. <br> Immunisation? I would not consider it. It is a bacteria, NOT contagious, most shearers here test positive as it is common in the soil. It's not a poison as in cyanide or some lethal gas.<br>The vaccine will do more harm than good, that's a poison. Many interesting articles on Anthrax can be found on the Net. www.Mercola.com is one.<br><br><br>Try not to live in fear, learn as much of you can about anthrax (knowledge is power)<br><br>Kindest regards to all Hanneke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 & gt; & gt;Would you take an immunization against anthrax?<br>What about a State sponsered immunization?<br> & gt; & gt;<br> & gt; & gt;<br> <br>I would not take an immunization against anthrax since i am not in the media or politics or anything else where i am likely to get it, but i would take Cipro or something else after i got it if, by some remote chance, that ever did happen. I haven't taken any vaccines or medicines for several decades and, hopefully, i won't ever taken any again for the rest of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 & lt; & lt;Is Anthrax really a poison or is it just a virus or bacteria. If it is a poison then I think raw foodists would be in trouble just like anyone else. & gt; & gt;<br><br>You folks say you react badly to toxic substances now that your bodies are less toxic... Well, I've heard that some of the anthrax found is " highly refined " , probably meaning doctored up and synthetic. Would this mean that raw foodists would have an even harder time of it than people whose bodies are used to handling toxicity?<br><br>Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Raw foodists would be more sensetive and may have a more noticable reaction, but less likely to recieve any sustained damage and have a faster recovery.<br><br>It would be like a nonsmoker walking into a bar dense with cigarette smoke for the first time. Your eyes would soon start watering and throat become irratable. The folks in the bar wouldn't notice it. Who would be most likely to get lung cancer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 Nice analogy W_C_Feelgood.<br><br>Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 GenericViewer,<br><br>Do your chi gong practices include tai chi, or do you stick with breathing exercises and other stationary or standing exercises?<br><br>I started out with standing meditation and breathing exercises, then found a good tai chi teacher and have spent most of my time the last several years learning tai chi forms, to the detriment of basic chi gung exercises.<br><br>I have developed great leg strength, awareness of chi (mainly in the hands, but not too much elsewhere) supple back, etc., but never developed the ability to really go inward to look for blockages, much less disolve them. What have been your experiences, or what have you found to be most useful?<br><br>Mallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 & gt;<br> & gt;<br>GenericViewer,<br>Do your chi gong practices include tai chi, or do you stick with breathing exercises and other stationary or standing exercises?<br>I started out with standing meditation and breathing exercises, then found a good tai chi teacher and have spent most of my time the last several years learning tai chi forms, to the detriment of basic chi gung exercises.<br>Mallon<br> & gt;<br> & gt;<br><br>I have just started doing some serious reading about Qigong this year and have not started doing the exercises yet. Since Tai Chi is an off shoot of Qigong i will stick to Qigong exercises when i start doing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 & gt;<br> & gt;<br>You folks say you react badly to toxic substances now that your bodies are less toxic... Well, I've heard that some of the anthrax found is " highly refined " , probably meaning doctored up and synthetic. Would this mean that raw foodists would have an even harder time of it than people whose bodies are used to handling toxicity?<br> & gt;<br> & gt;<br><br>It doesn't matter if a toxin is synthetic or is natural, such as a poisonous mushroom. Eating raw will increase your body's ability to recover much more rapidly from the effects of any toxin it takes in. <br><br>Reacting badly to a toxin is a good thing, it means that your body is quickly eliminating it instead of storing for a much later elimination. It will have to come out some time, the sooner the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 & lt; & lt;Raw foodists would be more sensetive and may have a more noticable reaction, but less likely to recieve any sustained damage and have a faster recovery.<br><br>It would be like a nonsmoker walking into a bar dense with cigarette smoke for the first time. Your eyes would soon start watering and throat become irratable. The folks in the bar wouldn't notice it. Who would be most likely to get lung cancer? & gt; & gt;<br><br>Amen to that! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 The following sounds promissing for us, the raws:<br><a href=http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/01_43/c3754072.htm target=new>http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/01_43/c3754072.htm</a> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 I would believe this! A friend has cured ALL her famiy's illnesses in the past 2 years with Oil of Oregano....from bacterial flus to boils. There ios a book called 'the cure in the cupboard' about how to use oil of oregano. The original Oregamax is what to get, according to my friend. I took this stuff: it is VERY potent and repeated in my digestion so a little goes a long way. She gives her children 1 drop 2 or 3 times a day when they are ill. She cured a boil by rubbing it on the body's surface! Miraculous!<br>Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.