Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 The good mother listens to her child's feelings and detoxifies the bad one's such as hunger, fear and anger.<br><br>The bad mother sees the bad feelings as an imposition on herself. She doesn't detoxify the feelings so in order to survive the child must stop being aware of its own feelings. And the child may, as an adult, project its own toxic feelings onto vulnerable people.<br><br>We all know raw food detoxifies the body, while cooked food is toxic. Mom's home cooking is just that: cooked food.<br><br>So are projecting our own toxic feelings onto cooked food while idealizing raw food?<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Victor, on which " plot " are you " cooking " lol<br><br>Hanneke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Victor,<br><br>You raise a good subject about toxic " feelings " and toxic food. A lot of people claim that negative emotions or feelings are derived from eating toxic food or meat, specifically meat from factory-farm animals that have known only a life of torment.<br><br>What proof or evidence do we have that, when a body that has to detoxify toxins or meat with negative emotions attached to it, those emotions are translated into the eater's emotions?<br><br>Surely there are people with good emotions that eat toxic food, and those that eat perfect food and still have negative emotions. Maybe the former would be even happier on good food. How would we ever be able to ascertain the emotional impact of raw food?<br><br>Maybe it has to be from personal experience. Has your mental outlook changed since converting to raw 2 years or so ago?<br><br>Mallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Hey, Mallon, long time no see!<br><br>I think what I am trying to say is that feelings are not things while cooked food is a thing.<br><br>And rather than experience feelings directly we can project our bad feelings into cooked meat. We sacrifice the meat by not eating it and so get rid of the bad feelings.<br><br>This works in our emotional economy, but at a price.<br><br>The price is direct access to our feelings.<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Dear Hanneke,<br><br>When I was eight years old, I discovered I could think so naturally I went to tell my mother.<br><br> " I can think! I can think! " , I told Mum.<br><br> " That's nice " , she said.<br><br>And so I was taught not to think in public, and even in private it wasn't a good idea.<br><br>Until I discovered raw food, then everything started to burst out: not only can I think but also feel.<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Dear Hanneke,<br><br>So what is thinking?<br><br>It is holding more than one idea in your mind at once.<br><br>Most people can hold one idea, then they try to prove it is true or try to get other people to adopt it.<br><br>That is why obsession or bullying is so common.<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Dear Hanneke,<br><br>So what is feeling?<br><br>It is allowing emotions to arise naturally, moment by moment, whether they are good emotions or bad emotions.<br><br>Most people control their emotions and seek to control the emotions of others.<br><br>That is why banality is the norm.<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Hey Shortus,<br><br>I've still been reading the board occasionally, I just took a break from posting for a while.<br><br>Projecting bad feelings onto meat, then sacrificing the meat, sounds like a practice that sometimes occurred during biblical times. I've heard the term " scape goat " arose from some such practice where a village was having really bad things happen and went through some sort of ritual where they cast all their troubles onto a hapless goat and ran it out into the countryside to take their troubles away. Seems like there was a similar story involving a pig, and then running the pig off the side of a cliff, but I'm not positive about this one.<br><br>I'll try shedding my bad feelings onto meat, then my sacrifice will be not eating the meat.<br><br>Thinking: Thoughts are purest when the mind is empty, and thus clear. Why would you want to empty your mind? Let me ask you: What good is a vessel that is already full? When you empty your mind, interpretation of things becomes easy and you've eliminated the mental clutter that clogs most people's minds.<br><br> find I learn more by not making judgments. Because once you put up that barrier, your mind filters out additional information on the subject, and your learning ceases. I've found many things I disbelieved in the past, later turned out to be true. Not true in an abolute sense - I believe there are few if any absolutes. But a belief is true to the believer, so you mold your own reality by selecting your beliefs. Better select them sparingly and carefully for reasons just noted.<br><br>Mallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Dear Mallon,<br><br>I think your thoughts on the empty mind and judgements are very good.<br><br>It seems to me though that the bad feelings that are removed by ritual sacrifice are unresolved feelings from childhood. Of course I could be competely wrong. I've been wrong before.<br><br>Sometimes I wonder how you are getting on in your job and how raw food is going.<br><br>It's nice to hear from you.<br><br>Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Victor,<br><br>Thanks for your kind words. I enjoy your posts too, but I took a little bit of a silence break for a while to give the true raw fooders (that includes you) plenty of space. I would be proud to say that I've gone 100% raw, but (silence). Actually, it is still a priority of mine to stay at least 50% raw, and I tend to average this and am very conscientious about food combining. As one example, I often eat several pieces of one fruit, or avocado, etc at one " meal " , then I ensure to wait at least an hour or longer before consuming cooked food or incompatible raw food. This board is inspirational to me to eat as much raw as possible and of the benefits to be derived.<br><br>If I was single, I'm sure I would've tried 100% raw by now, but I have a wife who loves to sample different foods (cooked and raw) and 2 small children whom we want not to be too skinny, as we want them to appear big and strong enough to not get bullied by other kids. So I'm somewhat under " pressure " to participate and help provide foods to be consumed by the whole family. I do, however make sure the kids get several servings of raw fruits every day, and I'm having a slow impact on my wife and kid's diets (they eat very little meat now that I'm demonstrating there's a lot of choices that don't have to include meat).<br><br>Mallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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