Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 Hi there,<br><br>My girlfriend and I are planning a detox program in April. This will mean going mostly raw (right now I would probably call us 95% cooked , so I'm going to try incorporating more uncooked fruits & veggies into my diet gradually. That way it won't be as hard as everyone says it is to stay raw for the period of the detox.<br><br>So I need to get a juicer. I've read on earlier posts that Champion is the best one. Is that still the consensus? If so, do you recommend the commercial or the personal one?<br><br>Also, the " necessary " detoxing ingredients seem to vary from program to program. So I was wondering if anyone had tried any of these and could recommend or criticize:<br>bentonite clay<br>ground flaxseeds<br>dandelion root<br>milk thistle<br>red clover<br>These are ones I've seen recur...there are many more, of course.<br><br>Also, one woman recommended we do a 3-day juice fast so that we're cleared of waste before we start detoxing the liver and blood. Any comments?<br><br>In case it matters, I'm not doing the detox for any particular medical condition. I'm 100% vegan, healthy and happy, exercise, drink alcohol and smoke pot in moderation. I just wondered, if I feel this good now, what would happen if I cleaned out all the toxins? I would love to have even better health, if that's possible.<br><br>My girlfriend has borderline high blood pressure and is probably above her ideal weight by 10-20 lbs. However, she eats dairy a lot, so I think that's the main cause. She's cutting way back on dairy and exercising more since she found out about the blood pressure, and we hope this detox will help her even more.<br><br>Thanks in advance for any advice you can give. Even though I'm not into the raw diet, I like reading this site to get another point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 Hi,<br><br>It sure is a shame that you're 'not into the raw diet' as it is the healthiest diet on the planet (and I'm speaking as a Doctor who has specialised in Nutrition!!).<br><br>Anyhow, I feel the Oscar juicer (in the U.S. they call it the Sampson I believe) is superior to the Champion and I have both. There is much less oxidisation with the Oscar. You could check out <a href=http://www.living-foods.com/marketplace target=new>http://www.living-foods.com/marketplace</a> to find out more information and speak with John Kohler if you are from the U.S.. I know a UK distributor too.<br><br>With all good wishes,<br>Gina<br><br>PS: If you follow natural hygiene, all the herbs you mention are poisonous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 Carolj1974,<br><br>I've been consuming 1 - 2 tblsp of bentonite clay mixed with psyllium husk in about 12 oz of water and juice (to mask the taste)for about 5 years now. It's supposed to help draw toxins from your body. I started it because it was highly recommended from some pioneers in internal cleanliness. I also noted on a visit to San Diego zoo years ago that they pointed out a wild pig that had a diet that included toxic substances , the pig ate clay and the clay prevented the toxins from harming it. So there seems to be some truth to the properties of the clay. If you want it, you can get it from V.E. Irons or via Colema Boards (who also stock that brand). Arise & Shine also sell the product. All are about $13/quart. I drink mine first thing in morning at least an hour before consuming food. If you really want to get cleaned inside out, you can do a 7 day modified fast where you consume the clay/psyllium mix several times each day in lieu of food (book from Dr. Bernard Jensen describes this, and Colema have info on it). But to get maximum results you need to combine it with irrigation, which may be beyond the scope of what you want to do. I belive eating substantially all raw will accomplish almost the same effect, but it just takes a lot longer.<br><br>I bought a Champion personal use juicer several years ago on a recommendation from a friend who has had one for 20 years and never had a problem with it. Some people recommend the commercial use one; I'm not sure why, unless you plan to use it very heavily, and if money is not a big issue.<br><br>I recently purchased some flax seed and grinder to increase my intake of quality fat, etc. I was mixing it with cereal, but now that I'm eating mostly raw, I haven't yet figured out a good way to consume it (there are a few recipes floating around, but I haven't seen anything that looked too appealing.<br><br>Good Luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 So you want to detox.<br><br>The strongest potion is a water fast. Distilled water for the whole month. <br><br>Then comes the juicing diet which detoxes more slowly but is favored by some. <br><br>Thirdly comes raw food eating, According to David Wolfe you need to spend a month on raw food to detox each year of cooked food digestion.<br><br>If life is about living with your objective I'd try a bit of each starting with the first and getting a colonic wash each week!<br><br>I am not qualified to give this answer but others in the forum will hopefully set my counsel straight<br><br>I think April should be a toxic or rather tonic month for you: so good luck<br><br>Peter Gardiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Please DO NOT undertake a water fast on your own for longer than 2 days. If you are going to attempt a water fast (which is great if do!), you must obtain competent supervision for this. There are many experienced fasting supervisors and hygienic professionals in the U.S. includig Dr V. Vetrano in Texas.<br><br>Gina<br>Dr Gina Shaw<br><a href=http://www.vibrancy.homestead.com/pageone.html target=new>http://www.vibrancy.homestead.com/pageone.html</a> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Hi Gina,<br><br>Thanks for your recommendations. There are many other nutritionists who do place value on the herbs I mentioned, but I will take your opinion and theirs with equal weight. I still have awhile to educate myself, luckily.<br><br>As to why I haven't changed to a raw food diet, as I said, I see no health drawbacks to my current diet, even with a few bad habits thrown in. I'm not convinced by what I've read so far that the raw diet is significantly healthier than a cooked vegan diet. (Before you get upset though, let me say that I'm not necessarily " convinced " that my diet is healthier either; that's why I'm always reading and researching.)<br><br>When I went vegan, there was an urgent moral imperative, so I didn't take the time to find out if it was healthier. When my digestion and energy improved and my 5 colds a year went away, it was just a lucky side effect of boycotting the slaughterhouses. But there is nothing morally wrong with consuming cooked vs. raw foods so it's not urgent that I switch. And I have no health woes to hurry me along. However, there's obviously nothing UNhealthy in the raw diet, which is why I'm still looking into it and haven't rejected the idea yet.<br><br>Thanks again,<br>Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 mallon,<br><br>Thanks! I will have to look into psyllium husk.<br><br>On the subject of eating clay: my girlfriend seems to remember seeing a documentary where women in a certain place in rural America would eat clay sometimes. It was only the women of the area. She can't remember anything more because she was so young when she saw it. Have you ever heard of this? I wonder if it's related to the pig's habit...<br><br>About the ground flaxseeds: so far I've only seen suggestions to mix it with water and a squeeze of lemon, and eat it in the morning and at night along with the clay. Not that that's very appealing either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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