Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Hello, My name is Sharon and I recently became interested in moving towards a raw diet. I have suffered from fatigue and many other symptoms for years and I'm really tired of suffering. I've been interested in alternative health and eating healthy for some time. I choose organic foods when possible, I am a vegetarian and I avoid white flour and sugar and processed foods, but I still have symptoms. Lately I've heard of the benefits of a raw food diet and that the raw food movement is growing, so I decided to look find out more. I live in Buffalo NY and I've heard that there is a group of raw foodists here and I intend to get in touch with them to find out more. I'd like to start out by finding some simple (very simple) yet tasty recipes to start out with. I'd also like to know how vegan/vegetarian raw foodists satisfy their protein requirements. I'm thinking maybe bean sprouts? But I just read an article about concerns with bacteria and salmonella with sprouts. From what I understand from the article, the main concern was alfalfa sprouts and daikon radish sprouts... so would bean sprouts be ok? Any info on this would be appreciated. I have sprouted in the past... and would be willing to do it again. One of my favorite foods is raw peas from the pod and sometimes I get some that have sprouted and I enjoy the sprouted ones best. I would like to know if Ezekial bread would be considered a raw food??? Are frozen foods considered to be raw? Are there raw milks available? I'm thinking maybe oat milk would work? What is the best sweetener to make these with? Any recipes? Is sprouted wheat berry bread a raw food? Thank you for any info that anyone on the list can provide. I'm looking forward to learning as much as I can about raw food. Regards, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Hi Sharon, Glad to hear your interest in raw foods. I'd like to chime in on the protein issue. This topic has been thoroughly discussed here in the past. I'll give you the post number to start at and you can get loads of insight by reading these posts. Post numbers 1787 to 1803 have an indepth discussion. For those who don't know you can get to a specific post by entering the post number on the messages page. Quick question for the group. Has anyone here ever met anyone diagnosed with a protein deficiency? I'm talking cooked foods or any kind of diet. It's just that everyone is so worried about protein and as far as I know the medical profession doesn't even have a term for it. Reason being is that such a condition rarely if ever happens. It's the meat and dairy industry that has everyone convinced that you have to get enough protein. According to Dr. Graham all the diets in the world average between 10 and 20% protein, even the raw food diet. Protein or more importantly amino acids are in fruit, vegies, nuts and seeds. If you eat these foods and have variety in your diet you'll get plenty of raw uncooked and untainted proteins. Sharon you should get plenty of energy and much, much more when you do the raw diet. Roger Haeske P.S. Would you like to get a Free 6 Step Technique to Gradually Transition to a Raw Diet, go to http://superbeing.com/awesometechnique.htm rawfood, sharonsky@w... wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Sharon and I recently became interested in moving towards a > raw diet. I have suffered from fatigue and many other symptoms for > years and I'm really tired of suffering. I've been interested in > alternative health and eating healthy for some time. I choose organic > foods when possible, I am a vegetarian and I avoid white flour and sugar > and processed foods, but I still have symptoms. > > Lately I've heard of the benefits of a raw food diet and that the raw > food movement is growing, so I decided to look find out more. > > I live in Buffalo NY and I've heard that there is a group of raw > foodists here and I intend to get in touch with them to find out more. > > I'd like to start out by finding some simple (very simple) yet tasty > recipes to start out with. > > I'd also like to know how vegan/vegetarian raw foodists satisfy their > protein requirements. I'm thinking maybe bean sprouts? But I just > read an article about concerns with bacteria and salmonella with > sprouts. From what I understand from the article, the main concern was > alfalfa sprouts and daikon radish sprouts... so would bean sprouts be > ok? Any info on this would be appreciated. I have sprouted in the > past... and would be willing to do it again. > > One of my favorite foods is raw peas from the pod and sometimes I get > some that have sprouted and I enjoy the sprouted ones best. > > I would like to know if Ezekial bread would be considered a raw food??? > > Are frozen foods considered to be raw? Are there raw milks available? > I'm thinking maybe oat milk would work? What is the best sweetener to > make these with? Any recipes? > > Is sprouted wheat berry bread a raw food? > > Thank you for any info that anyone on the list can provide. I'm looking > forward to learning as much as I can about raw food. > > Regards, > Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Hi Roger, Thanks for the info on the protein discussion. I'll check it out. Roger wrote: >>Quick question for the group. Has anyone here ever met anyone diagnosed with a protein deficiency? I'm talking cooked foods or any kind of diet. It's just that everyone is so worried about protein and as far as I know the medical profession doesn't even have a term for it. Reason being is that such a condition rarely if ever happens. It's the meat and dairy industry that has everyone convinced that you have to get enough protein.<< I have experienced firsthand a severe problem from lack of protein. About 2.5 years ago, I went from being a vegetarian to being predominantely vegan (about the same time I started using something called Natural Progesterone Cream). I had read that people don't need to be concerned about getting enough protein because it's very hard to not get enough, so I didn't watch to make sure I was getting enough. There is a much higher concentration of protein in meat than in vegetarian sources. To get the same amount of protein that is in 3 or 4 ounces of tuna or ground beef, one would have to eat about 2 cups of beans... which is not an easy task... believe me. Anyhow.... a few months after starting this predominantly vegan diet, I noticed that I was getting upset for no reason. The littlest thing would upset me, I would cry at the drop of a hat... I believed my boyfriend didn't me anymore, I would over react to the littlest thing. I had always been someone emotional, but this was really severe. I just felt like I couldn't handle life anymore. This started to drive my boyfriend away and at the relationship started to fade, which added to my upset. I just coudn't understand what was wrong. I finally discovered 5HTP and started taking it. With 5HTP I was back to my normal self, but if I forgot to take it, I was that emotional wreck again. After my relationship ended, I figured the added stress was out of my life and I tried to get off the 5HTP and became a wreck again. I just didn't understand what was happening. I got the idea that maybe the Natural Progesterone Cream had caused havoc with my hormones so I stopped using it, and then a few months later tried to get off the 5HTP, but still became emotional again. Then I discovered a book called Sugar Addicts Total Recovery Program. It was very interesting. The author says that lack of protein causes depression and recommends eating 1/2 your weight in grams of protein per day plus eating " browns " (whole grains instead of white), and elminating sugar (and more). I was fascinated by this book and tried what the author suggested. I had already been off of white flour and sugar for some time, so all I really did was make sure I was getting her recommended amount of protein. A few weeks later something told me I could get off the 5HTP and I did. Then I became lazy about watching my protein intake and became emotional again. Then I started watching my protein again and felt better. I've also had friends (women) who were going through some emotional problems and I asked about their protein and it turned out they weren't getting enough. When they made sure to get the correct protein, they felt better. Whey they didn't, they felt emotional again. I'm not sure if this is something that just happens with women, or with people prone to depression, or what, but I have seen it happen with my own eyes. Maybe I just wasn't getting the correct balance of amino acids or something.... I don't know, but I know I have to focus on getting enough protein. I'm not sure exaclty what happened to me or why, but I know that protein has something to do with it. Just thought I'd share that since you asked. BTW, I also new a guy who was primarily vegan who probably wasn't getting enough protein, but he didn't seem to have any emotional effects from it.. none that I noticed anyhow.....that's why I thought maybe it just happens to women for some reason. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 About the sprout concern, I say its hyped up. I've eaten sprouts, all kinds, my entire life regularly and have never gotten sick (over 30 yrs). Just use common sense. Know the company who you are buying from. Don't buy sprouts that look mushy and lifeless. The ones that typically look lifeless and mushy are those found in supermarkets in those plastic cup-type containers. Find them at your health food store or have them shipped to you. For a long time, I had the produce section of my grocery store order an entire flat of spouts for me that were fresh and crisp. It was a pretty big flat so I'd give some to my dad and my friends. I believe Indoor Garden in chicago used to ship sprouts...I don't know if they still do. If you are still concerned, sprout your own seeds. Good luck and welcome to Rawsome foods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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