Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 I have been free from coffee for one month. The first seven days I had physical withdrawal symptoms: headache, mild flu feeling and severe sinus pain. The second seven days I had psychological symptoms: I felt I couldn't cope. The third seven days I was faced with temptation: I wanted coffee, cigarettes and sex. I gave up coffee because I have very high blood pressure but I never guessed I was so addicted and that the withdrawal symptoms would be so severe and tenacious. As they say, I guess it is another psychoactive drug. Being free from substance addiction means I am no longer driven by them and I am free to enjoy the pleasures of raw fruit, vegetables, sprouts, nuts and seeds and fish. And sharing them with others. Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Hey, Victor, Congrats! I'm wondering how much coffee you drank. I've given it up for as long as 3 weeks, but never longer. I never had a headache or any other symptoms. I'm just emotionally addicted. My only problem is that I " think " about it and make excuses to drink it. There is definitely no physiological craving going on with me. I never really even drank that much: two cups a day max. When I finally quit my 16 hr.a day job three years ago, I thought I would be able to give it up. I got down to 1/2 to 1 cup about three days/wk., and did that for several months until I got another job that quickly became boring. Now, I " ve discovered a new grocery store soy latte and drink one or two every day. Hopefully, that's just a phase. I have an unusual skin condition that has grown increasingly worse since it started up about 20 years ago. I keep thinking there's something I'm deficient in, or that there's something I'm getting too much of,but, of course, the slew of dermatologists I've been to don't consider those things. They just treat it topically. Last year, I gave up wheat, and then dairy. The only things I haven't yet given up (for long enough to make a difference) are sugar and caffeine. If you have any tips for sticking it out, let me know. kim --- shortus <no_reply > wrote: > I have been free from coffee for one month. > > The first seven days I had physical withdrawal symptoms: > headache, > mild flu feeling and severe sinus pain. > > The second seven days I had psychological symptoms: I felt I > couldn't > cope. > > The third seven days I was faced with temptation: I wanted > coffee, > cigarettes and sex. > > I gave up coffee because I have very high blood pressure but I > never > guessed I was so addicted and that the withdrawal symptoms > would be > so severe and tenacious. > > As they say, I guess it is another psychoactive drug. > > Being free from substance addiction means I am no longer > driven by > them and I am free to enjoy the pleasures of raw fruit, > vegetables, > sprouts, nuts and seeds and fish. And sharing them with > others. > > Victor. > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Congratulations!!! - shortus rawfood Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:02 PM [Raw Food] Coffee. I have been free from coffee for one month. The first seven days I had physical withdrawal symptoms: headache, mild flu feeling and severe sinus pain. The second seven days I had psychological symptoms: I felt I couldn't cope. The third seven days I was faced with temptation: I wanted coffee, cigarettes and sex. I gave up coffee because I have very high blood pressure but I never guessed I was so addicted and that the withdrawal symptoms would be so severe and tenacious. As they say, I guess it is another psychoactive drug. Being free from substance addiction means I am no longer driven by them and I am free to enjoy the pleasures of raw fruit, vegetables, sprouts, nuts and seeds and fish. And sharing them with others. Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Hi Kim, The skin is an outlet for toxins. Sounds like you are eating or drinking or breathing something toxic to your body. It's usually liver or lymphatic system related. Regina keemosabe wrote: I have an unusual skin condition that has grown increasingly worse since it started up about 20 years ago. I keep thinking there's something I'm deficient in, or that there's something I'm getting too much of,but, of course, the slew of dermatologists I've been to don't consider those things. They just treat it topically. Last year, I gave up wheat, and then dairy. The only things I haven't yet given up (for long enough to make a difference) are sugar and caffeine. If you have any tips for sticking it out, let me know. kim Finance - Get real-time stock quotes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Dear Kim, Working 16 hours a day for three years is some gig. As for tips on giving up: Remember you are measured by your enemies and psychotropic drugs are tenacious and subtle. However they can be beaten. Just remember, never give up, giving up. I found walking to be helpful. It gives me something physical to do. It gives me a natural high and I am fitter. I found making very small changes helpful, such as, having hot chocolate rather than coffee made a difference for me. Substance addictions have great strengths. They are subtle and tenacious. They do have one great weakness: they are mechanical and predictable. Everytime you give up you learn their mechanism and so is easier to avoid next time. It takes 21 days to form a habit and 21 days to break a habit. Why not start at Day One and write to us everyday until you reach Day 21 telling us what you have done and how you feel and what you think. We would love to hear from you. Victor. rawfood, keemosabe <keemosabe1> wrote: > Hey, Victor, > Congrats! I'm wondering how much coffee you drank. I've given > it up for as long as 3 weeks, but never longer. I never had a > headache or any other symptoms. I'm just emotionally addicted. > My only problem is that I " think " about it and make excuses to > drink it. There is definitely no physiological craving going on > with me. I never really even drank that much: two cups a day > max. > > When I finally quit my 16 hr.a day job three years ago, I > thought I would be able to give it up. I got down to 1/2 to 1 > cup about three days/wk., and did that for several months until > I got another job that quickly became boring. Now, I " ve > discovered a new grocery store soy latte and drink one or two > every day. Hopefully, that's just a phase. > > I have an unusual skin condition that has grown increasingly > worse since it started up about 20 years ago. I keep thinking > there's something I'm deficient in, or that there's something > I'm getting too much of,but, of course, the slew of > dermatologists I've been to don't consider those things. They > just treat it topically. Last year, I gave up wheat, and then > dairy. The only things I haven't yet given up (for long enough > to make a difference) are sugar and caffeine. > > If you have any tips for sticking it out, let me know. > > kim > > > --- shortus <no_reply> wrote: > > I have been free from coffee for one month. > > > > The first seven days I had physical withdrawal symptoms: > > headache, > > mild flu feeling and severe sinus pain. > > > > The second seven days I had psychological symptoms: I felt I > > couldn't > > cope. > > > > The third seven days I was faced with temptation: I wanted > > coffee, > > cigarettes and sex. > > > > I gave up coffee because I have very high blood pressure but I > > never > > guessed I was so addicted and that the withdrawal symptoms > > would be > > so severe and tenacious. > > > > As they say, I guess it is another psychoactive drug. > > > > Being free from substance addiction means I am no longer > > driven by > > them and I am free to enjoy the pleasures of raw fruit, > > vegetables, > > sprouts, nuts and seeds and fish. And sharing them with > > others. > > > > Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 -Skin conditions can also be the result of toxic blood. I wonder if blood cleansing may be in order for you. Marlene-- In rawfood, keemosabe <keemosabe1> wrote: > Hey, Victor, > Congrats! I'm wondering how much coffee you drank. I've given > it up for as long as 3 weeks, but never longer. I never had a > headache or any other symptoms. I'm just emotionally addicted. > My only problem is that I " think " about it and make excuses to > drink it. There is definitely no physiological craving going on > with me. I never really even drank that much: two cups a day > max. > > When I finally quit my 16 hr.a day job three years ago, I > thought I would be able to give it up. I got down to 1/2 to 1 > cup about three days/wk., and did that for several months until > I got another job that quickly became boring. Now, I " ve > discovered a new grocery store soy latte and drink one or two > every day. Hopefully, that's just a phase. > > I have an unusual skin condition that has grown increasingly > worse since it started up about 20 years ago. I keep thinking > there's something I'm deficient in, or that there's something > I'm getting too much of,but, of course, the slew of > dermatologists I've been to don't consider those things. They > just treat it topically. Last year, I gave up wheat, and then > dairy. The only things I haven't yet given up (for long enough > to make a difference) are sugar and caffeine. > > If you have any tips for sticking it out, let me know. > > kim > > > --- shortus <no_reply> wrote: > > I have been free from coffee for one month. > > > > The first seven days I had physical withdrawal symptoms: > > headache, > > mild flu feeling and severe sinus pain. > > > > The second seven days I had psychological symptoms: I felt I > > couldn't > > cope. > > > > The third seven days I was faced with temptation: I wanted > > coffee, > > cigarettes and sex. > > > > I gave up coffee because I have very high blood pressure but I > > never > > guessed I was so addicted and that the withdrawal symptoms > > would be > > so severe and tenacious. > > > > As they say, I guess it is another psychoactive drug. > > > > Being free from substance addiction means I am no longer > > driven by > > them and I am free to enjoy the pleasures of raw fruit, > > vegetables, > > sprouts, nuts and seeds and fish. And sharing them with > > others. > > > > Victor. > > > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 --- shortus <no_reply > wrote: > > Working 16 hours a day for three years is some gig. > > As for tips on giving up: > I found walking to be helpful. It gives me something physical > to do. > It gives me a natural high and I am fitter. Admittedly, I don't walk, and don't particularly like it. How much do you do? I did run 5 miles last night, though, when I got home from doing contra dance. Contra is new to me, and I found it disappointingly lacking in rhythm and style...just a lot of spinning, which made me motion sick, so the run eased that out of me. Coincidentally, there was a man at the contra dance whom I'd never met, who sat down next to me when I was sitting one out to avoid getting dizzier. He also suggested that I " take up exercise " . Tomorrow, I'll be meeting up with a large group of people to do the annual Wilson 100, a charity ride (bicycles)of 100 miles. Actually, my level of physical activity IS much less than I was doing when I took up coffee drinking . At that time, I was competing around the country in triathlons. I barely swim laps at all now, and my biking is down to about 100 miles a week (this week will be 145), and I just picked up running again last week. I hadn't been able to run since February when I crashed my mtn. bike and fractured my hip bone. Nonetheless, my activity level has remained constant (with variations in which activities)throughout my 20 years of caffeine consumption. That 16 hr./day job I mentioned above was being a personal trainer. I actually did it for six years, but only three were ridiculous hours. I didn't do much during that time (except picking up weights to hand them to others), but I did keep up a minimum to stay more fit than the folks I trained. > > I found making very small changes helpful, such as, having hot > > chocolate rather than coffee made a difference for me. Yep. I've done that. I've tried a number of coffee substitutes, also, and decaf. I drink coffee for the caffeine effect, though, not because I love it. IT's not even good energy, and will ruin me for stuff like weight lifting because I'll be too shaky and hypertensive to do it. In fact, the caffeine makes me weak. For about two years, I drank half caf and half decaf. That was going okay. I don't know what happened to that. > > > It takes 21 days to form a habit and 21 days to break a habit. > Why > not start at Day One and write to us everyday until you reach > Day 21 > telling us what you have done and how you feel and what you > think. > alright, well, I have some soy latte's in the frig. and had one earlier so i could motivate to do some house cleaning and lawn mowing. I suspect I'll have another when I get back from the ride tomorrow as those longer rides often make me sleepy once I'm home and things are quiet. I have a plan to start Monday, as I do think it's a good idea. thanks! kim Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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