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Dear Siri,

thank you for your post and congratulation to your nice start.

It's good to feel that way in the beginning. Don't miss it!!!

I think it is ok not to be too restricted on your nutrition right in

the beginning. When I started last year around Christmas with the raw

diet I was right in the middle of lots of " Julebords " (for the non-

Norwegians: Christmas parties with colleagues and customers). There

were quite a few temptations. When I followed them and felt the

discomfort afterwards it only made my believe in the raw diet more

strongly. So eventually I went on 100%.

What I did when I spent my first raw Christmas together with my

mother and her partner...? I gave them a combined juicer and blender

thus being able to prepare the most delicious dishes. It became our

first raw family Christmas! And they were happy and convinced that

raw is possible and better. When eating out at a restaurant they

ordered their only warm meal that Christmas while I kept to the salad

section of the meny. Big Fun!

What can you await on your journey? Detox for sure and surely some

more or less exciting confrontations with your old nutritional habits

and believes.

I'm still there, as many others too. Struggling to get out of these

late night binges and cravings for sweets and nuts. Anyway after

reading Frédéric Patenaudes article on nuts and seeds, I decided to

give my body a rest from them for a couple of weeks. Curious about

what happens.

The main key for me I guess is to manage the stressy job situation

I'm in at the moment. You can't always choose the job you are in but

you can always choose your attitude! Challenging!

So I guess there is a good deal of work on my personality issues

ahead. I found Yoga to be very helpful to gain more ballance in life,

but it is not all...

I wish you and your husband good luck, a merry Christmas (be careful

with " Lutefisk " :-)

and a fruitful new year!

Love and Light

René

:-)

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Siri,

 

Check you are not low on green leaves. Sounds to me as though you are

nearly fully on fruit. Green leaves are important if you want

to go the distance.

 

Peter

 

 

Siri <siriseli [siriseli]

Friday, December 13, 2002 4:34 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Can this be a detox....?

 

 

First of all, let me thank all of you for posting all these

interesting messages here. I registered here a couple of days ago and

have been reading a lot of the earlier messages. I have for many

years been interested in this kind of nutrition, but never really

taken the final step to do it. I was always convinced, though, but I

still didn't really dare, I think, to give up all the foods I had

learned to love.

 

But here I am now, and I love it! It has been only a week, but

already I am experiencing wonderful changes like healing (I have had

cronic pain in my knees for years), weight loss, and high leves of

energy and a sense of clearity or lightness. This is truly the most

amazing experience I have ever had.

 

The thing is however, that I have not experienced any discomfort at

all. When I have tried this before I was soon overwhelmed by

headaches, dizziness and nausea, which caused me to end the whole

thing and go back to normal. This time however, I have not once had a

headache (even though I was a coffeine-addict), nor been hungry, nor

have I wanted any other food than fruits and nuts (I have eaten

vegetables, although I have not really wanted them). Should I

consider myself lucky and go on with it, or do you think that I am in

for a major " down " soon? I can almost not believe this myself, based

on my prior experiences plus of course what I have read from books

and on the internet about other people's experiences. I want to

detox, too, which can't be happening now, so easy, can it? I plan to

do a juicefast after Christmas anyhow.

 

Until then I am eating this way (I have a tiny bit of yoghurt with

som fruit for breakfast to help my stomach, but other than that I eat

100% raw with lots of water to drink). Once I week I plan to eat

whatever I feel like, for one meal, to not be too strict during the

transition. Also, for Christmas, I plan to eat the normal Norwegian

Christmas-food. I have a feeling that I will not want that food, but

that part is also about not upsetting my in-laws. Next year

however.. :)

 

I planned this well I think, with sizing down portions of mye

original diet, taking many kinds of supplements (vitamins, minerals,

omega 3 and CLA) before I started, so maybe this is the cause to why

I haven't had the usual discomfort? I also exercise a lot usually,

but I have not been doing that this week as I was afraid I would not

have the energy, and that it would stimulate my appetite too much.

 

I would love to hear from others, about how and why you started out

with raw foods and what your experiences were like then and how you

feel now. If you would like to get in touch, my email-address should

appear on this message, or look at my -profile on the members-

area.

 

Siri

 

 

 

 

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Siri,

Peter is right. I went in that trap too and had to be reminded of my

raw buddy today and my bad feelings after a binge yesterday.

Green is important! As David Wolfe says: The aim is to become green

from the inside... It is the color of our heart chakra as well...

So my lunch today was made of 100% spinach and I feel much better!

Yes presently I'm dealing with strong symptoms of hypoglycemia. Not

good at all! I'm going green now to stop that. See what happens, I'll

keep you updated guys.

Have a fruitful green day!

René

:-)

rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...>

wrote:

> Siri,

>

> Check you are not low on green leaves. Sounds to me as though you

are

> nearly fully on fruit. Green leaves are important if you want

> to go the distance.

>

> Peter

>

>

> Siri <siriseli@s...> [siriseli@s...]

> Friday, December 13, 2002 4:34 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Can this be a detox....?

>

>

> First of all, let me thank all of you for posting all these

> interesting messages here. I registered here a couple of days ago

and

> have been reading a lot of the earlier messages. I have for many

> years been interested in this kind of nutrition, but never really

> taken the final step to do it. I was always convinced, though, but

I

> still didn't really dare, I think, to give up all the foods I had

> learned to love.

>

> But here I am now, and I love it! It has been only a week, but

> already I am experiencing wonderful changes like healing (I have

had

> cronic pain in my knees for years), weight loss, and high leves of

> energy and a sense of clearity or lightness. This is truly the most

> amazing experience I have ever had.

>

> The thing is however, that I have not experienced any discomfort at

> all. When I have tried this before I was soon overwhelmed by

> headaches, dizziness and nausea, which caused me to end the whole

> thing and go back to normal. This time however, I have not once had

a

> headache (even though I was a coffeine-addict), nor been hungry,

nor

> have I wanted any other food than fruits and nuts (I have eaten

> vegetables, although I have not really wanted them). Should I

> consider myself lucky and go on with it, or do you think that I am

in

> for a major " down " soon? I can almost not believe this myself,

based

> on my prior experiences plus of course what I have read from books

> and on the internet about other people's experiences. I want to

> detox, too, which can't be happening now, so easy, can it? I plan

to

> do a juicefast after Christmas anyhow.

>

> Until then I am eating this way (I have a tiny bit of yoghurt with

> som fruit for breakfast to help my stomach, but other than that I

eat

> 100% raw with lots of water to drink). Once I week I plan to eat

> whatever I feel like, for one meal, to not be too strict during the

> transition. Also, for Christmas, I plan to eat the normal Norwegian

> Christmas-food. I have a feeling that I will not want that food,

but

> that part is also about not upsetting my in-laws. Next year

> however.. :)

>

> I planned this well I think, with sizing down portions of mye

> original diet, taking many kinds of supplements (vitamins,

minerals,

> omega 3 and CLA) before I started, so maybe this is the cause to

why

> I haven't had the usual discomfort? I also exercise a lot usually,

> but I have not been doing that this week as I was afraid I would

not

> have the energy, and that it would stimulate my appetite too much.

>

> I would love to hear from others, about how and why you started out

> with raw foods and what your experiences were like then and how you

> feel now. If you would like to get in touch, my email-address

should

> appear on this message, or look at my -profile on the members-

> area.

>

> Siri

>

>

>

>

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Thank you, Peter. I have gradually added more vegetables day by day,

mostly by eating salads of various greens, including a lot of

spinach. I still feel fine, but a bit short of energy and I would

like to exercise again soon.. Still no specific symptoms of detox,

except some weight loss :-)

 

> Siri,

>

> Check you are not low on green leaves. Sounds to me as though you

are

> nearly fully on fruit. Green leaves are important if you want

> to go the distance.

>

> Peter

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Siri,

 

Happily add all the green leaves you can stomach. Just go a bit slowly

on killing off the old intakes of cooked food. At first you are

bound to miss some of that old diet and you should therefore eat

much more green to compensate. If you do not cravings will develop.

Later when your body adapts you will manage on less. Taking exercise

is also good to get the toxins out. Walk for an hour and buy a kilo of

spinach should be the best insurance.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

Siri <siriseli [siriseli]

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:32 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Can this be a detox....?

 

 

Thank you, Peter. I have gradually added more vegetables day by day,

mostly by eating salads of various greens, including a lot of

spinach. I still feel fine, but a bit short of energy and I would

like to exercise again soon.. Still no specific symptoms of detox,

except some weight loss :-)

 

> Siri,

>

> Check you are not low on green leaves. Sounds to me as though you

are

> nearly fully on fruit. Green leaves are important if you want

> to go the distance.

>

> Peter

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Peter!

I love your recommendations. It really works the way you describe it.

I tried it the last days to come off my hypoglycemia trip and am

drastically improving my well-being this way.

Spinach Power!

Love

René

:-)

rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...>

wrote:

> Siri,

>

> Happily add all the green leaves you can stomach. Just go a bit

slowly

> on killing off the old intakes of cooked food. At first you are

> bound to miss some of that old diet and you should therefore eat

> much more green to compensate. If you do not cravings will develop.

> Later when your body adapts you will manage on less. Taking

exercise

> is also good to get the toxins out. Walk for an hour and buy a

kilo of

> spinach should be the best insurance.

>

> Peter

>

>

>

>

> Siri <siriseli@s...> [siriseli@s...]

> Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:32 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Can this be a detox....?

>

>

> Thank you, Peter. I have gradually added more vegetables day by

day,

> mostly by eating salads of various greens, including a lot of

> spinach. I still feel fine, but a bit short of energy and I would

> like to exercise again soon.. Still no specific symptoms of detox,

> except some weight loss :-)

>

> > Siri,

> >

> > Check you are not low on green leaves. Sounds to me as though you

> are

> > nearly fully on fruit. Green leaves are important if you want

> > to go the distance.

> >

> > Peter

>

>

>

>

>

>

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  • 3 weeks later...

That's good news.

 

Happy Year

 

Peter

 

 

eagle_drum <rene_archner

[rene_archner]

18 December 2002 22:43

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Can this be a detox....?

 

Peter!

I love your recommendations. It really works the way you describe it.

I tried it the last days to come off my hypoglycemia trip and am

drastically improving my well-being this way.

Spinach Power!

Love

René

:-)

rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...>

wrote:

> Siri,

>

> Happily add all the green leaves you can stomach. Just go a bit

slowly

> on killing off the old intakes of cooked food. At first you are

> bound to miss some of that old diet and you should therefore eat

> much more green to compensate. If you do not cravings will develop.

> Later when your body adapts you will manage on less. Taking

exercise

> is also good to get the toxins out. Walk for an hour and buy a

kilo of

> spinach should be the best insurance.

>

> Peter

>

>

>

>

> Siri <siriseli@s...> [siriseli@s...]

> Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:32 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Can this be a detox....?

>

>

> Thank you, Peter. I have gradually added more vegetables day by

day,

> mostly by eating salads of various greens, including a lot of

> spinach. I still feel fine, but a bit short of energy and I would

> like to exercise again soon.. Still no specific symptoms of detox,

> except some weight loss :-)

>

> > Siri,

> >

> > Check you are not low on green leaves. Sounds to me as though you

> are

> > nearly fully on fruit. Green leaves are important if you want

> > to go the distance.

> >

> > Peter

>

>

>

>

>

>

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