Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 ALL: FYI. I just wanted to start off the new year thinking about the common cold! Perhaps if we all nip this one . . . please read on. Wishing you a healthier New Year, Jane What Causes Colds? Most colds are caused by invisible droplets called rhinoviruses that are in the air you breathe or on things you touch. More than 100 different rhinoviruses (whose name comes from " rhin, " the Greek word for nose) can infiltrate the protective lining of the nose and throat, triggering an immune system reaction that can make your throat sore, your head ache, and can make it hard for you to breathe through your nose. No one knows for sure exactly why you may become infected with a cold at certain times. No matter what your parents say, shrugging off a jacket or sweater when it's chilly, sitting or sleeping in a draft, or going outside while your hair's wet won't cause you to catch a cold. But air that's dry - indoors or out - can lower your resistance to infection. So can allergies, lack of sleep, stress, not eating properly, or hanging out with someone who is smoking. Of course, being around your friends or others with colds make you more likely to catch one yourself. Rhinoviruses can stay alive as droplets in the air or on surfaces and may be able to make you sick for as long as 3 hours after someone who has a cold has coughed or sneezed. If you touch your mouth or nose after touching skin or some other surface that's been contaminated by one of these viruses, you'll probably catch a cold. If you already have a cold, you can make it worse if you don't wash your hands after you cough or sneeze. from: http://kidshealth.org/teen/infections/bacterial_viral/colds.html ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ OH, SO YOU HAVE A COLD-HAVE YOU? Dr. Norman Walker Excerpt from: Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices . . . what's missing in your body? Dr. Norman Walker pgs. 61-63 Is your breathing congested? Are you sneezing? Do you have a general " letdown " feeling? For many, many years investigators have been, and still are, attempting to find, isolate and identify some evanescent, evasive " germ " to blame for the common cold. Sometime during the middle 1920s, science made the headlines with the " discovery " of a " germ " which was definitely responsible for the common cold, but that it was too small and elusive to be caught or even to be visible by means of the most powerful microscopes they available. Yet, they " discovered " such a " germ " ? In the march of progress in the field of enlarging the image of matter, electronic microscopes have made such vast strides that what is virtually invisible can be magnified many thousands, even hundreds of thousands of time. Scientists are still playing with the thought that " the germ " can be caught, but to my (Walker) knowledge and as a result of all the research and investigations which I (Walker) have been able to make, to such " germ " has yet been seen, caught or harnessed. During the past years-actually since 1946-according to word I (Walker) have from England, some " Scientists, " under the $150,000 a year patronage of the British Government's " Medical Research Council " have been hunting-and, you know the British are notorious for hunting!-For a COLD BUG or VIRUS as the culprit, which could be blamed for or accused of being responsible for the starting or the generation of the COMMON COLD. So far, from every available report they have not yet after many years, been able to find, catch, harness nor " develop " one. Surely they have been able to identify about 100 different germs, virus or bacteria, but not one of these are able to START a cold. Every one of these was feeding on the mucus of Common Colds, the very purpose for which they were created, namely to dissolve, break up, decompose and so dispose of the mucus that manifests the Common Cold. As I (Walker) understand it, these British " Scientists " have some kind of a research hospital where they not only invited people to come there and stay for 10 days or so, free of charge, all meals and everything else provided, but patients are paid something like five shillings a day to come there and submit themselves to the Scientists attempts to find a germ or virus that will GIVE them a cold. It has become quite a fad for some 30 people at a time to go there once or twice a year for a very inexpensive vacation with pay. I (Walker) understand that so far only a handful of people during the past few years did develop a cold, but the germ or virus that was supposed to create it has never been discovered. No, indeed there is not a germ in existence which can cause one to have a cold. The electrical analogy in reference to a cold is worth remembering. The electric system in your home is equipped with fuses. Right? What happens when the electric circuit is overheated, because you have overloaded the line with too many lights and appliances? Does a " germ " notify you that a fuse will blow out or that the overheating of the wires may burn down your home? No, indeed. If the fuse fails to blow out, the overloaded and overheated wires will start a fire. Think this over when you " catch a cold. " The waste matter in the system, if not eliminated, builds up fermentation and heat in the body in the natural course of events. When such fermentation has reached a sufficiently toxic state, Nature becomes worried about our neglect to keep the body clean within, and gives us a warning in the form of mucous elimination which has been labeled " a cold. " It is just as simple as that, we have seen it demonstrated over and over and over again, that if the warning is ignored and disregarded, more serious conditions develop, conditions which are so well-known that a list of them covers a medical encyclopedia. Never curse a cold which has caught up with you. Rather be thankful for the timely warning, and do something about it. No drug was ever known to cure a cold without the development of eventual afflictions of a more serious nature, rarely attributed to such drugs. To put it briefly, a cold is the result of the secretion of too much accumulated waste, and insufficient and improper elimination. The Colon is the recipient of all this corruption. Toxins spread thought the body generating unhealthy mucus in the sinus cavities. Excessive waste matter is the contributing factor in the generation of mucus. The result - A COLD. An . . . . . . . . . . Excerpt from: Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices . . . what's missing in your body? 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Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 So far as I can tell with my own experiences, Dr. Walker is right. When your body is free of excess mucous I believe you will be very unlikely to get a cold. One thing I have found is that eating raw nuts and seeds produces excess mucous in me. So even on a raw diet, you can produce too much mucous. I'm not sure yet if avocados increase my mucous content or not. So far this year I haven't had a cold. But I have had periods of a few hours where the glands in my throat were swollen and I started to feel some symptoms. Then it all quickly went away. My body was probably able to quickly handle the lower levels of mucous in my body and therefore I didn't need to experience a cold. We shall see what happens as the winter progresses. Happy New Year to All of You, Roger Haeske P.S. Get a Free 6 Step Technique to Transition to a Raw Diet, go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com/awesomediet.htm <http://superbeingdiet.com/awesomediet.htm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 DaRocksMom@a... wrote: > What Causes Colds? > Most colds are caused by invisible droplets called > rhinoviruses that are in the air you breathe or on things > you touch. More than 100 different rhinoviruses (whose name comes > from " rhin, " the Greek word for nose) can infiltrate the > protective... What causes a cold? Well, I think that people with a weaken immune system catch colds. You can also catch a cold by placing yourself in a highly stressful position. What do I mean by a weaken immune system? Well, for one thing if you catch a lot of colds it could mean that you are suffering from borderline hypothyroidism. When you feel like you are coming down with a cold take one gram of Vitamin C every 30 minutes for the first hour, followed by one gram every hour for the next five hours. If you react too slowly with the Vitamin C and end up with a cold anyway, Zinc throat lozenges are more effective than Vitamin C. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Why do you even post on this board? What you say has nothing to do with raw foods. Taking supplements is not really a raw food approach. There are many more factors involved including co-nutrients, absorption and acid/alkaline balance to name a few. Supplementing could actually lengthen the cold. If I were trying to get more vitamin C I'd eat an orange or strawberries or some other high vitamin C food. But this won't stop a cold. I've tried the supplement approach numerous times including using Vitamin C and Zinc Lozenges and it didn't work at all. I don't know of anyone who takes these supplements and or garlic who doesn't get colds because of them. Getting a cold is a good sign. It means your body has enough vitality left in it to fight an excess of pollution in your body. Really sick people are often the ones that never get a cold. I've heard about several stories of people who never get colds. Later in turns out they had cancer when they thought they were the healthiest of people. The germs feed on the excess junk and mucous in the body that a typical cooked food eater accumulates on an hourly basis. These germs can't attack the healthy cells. They are actually doing us a favor by being a garbage disposal service. A cold is the body's way to stop all the excess of toxins by decreasing appetite and forcing us to rest. Then the virus and bacteria can eat up the excess toxins in our body. I have had much less problems with colds on the raw diet. This has certainly worked the best for me. I know of many other raw foodists with similar results. Once you get rid of the dirt and don't put any more back in, there is little reason to get a cold. Make sure you get enough rest and breathe fresh air and you'll be all right. Keep in mind that nuts and seeds and complicated recipes with dehydrated ingredients can increase the mucous in your diet as well. To Your Radiant Health, Roger Haeske Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach Roger Haeske the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Inifinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn how to go 100% RAW. John Gohde <johnhgohde [johnhgohde] Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:56 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Oh, so you have a cold-have you? DaRocksMom@a... wrote: > What Causes Colds? > Most colds are caused by invisible droplets called > rhinoviruses that are in the air you breathe or on things > you touch. More than 100 different rhinoviruses (whose name comes > from " rhin, " the Greek word for nose) can infiltrate the > protective... What causes a cold? Well, I think that people with a weaken immune system catch colds. You can also catch a cold by placing yourself in a highly stressful position. What do I mean by a weaken immune system? Well, for one thing if you catch a lot of colds it could mean that you are suffering from borderline hypothyroidism. When you feel like you are coming down with a cold take one gram of Vitamin C every 30 minutes for the first hour, followed by one gram every hour for the next five hours. If you react too slowly with the Vitamin C and end up with a cold anyway, Zinc throat lozenges are more effective than Vitamin C. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 Roger and John, Roger said< <<Why do you even post on this board? What you say has nothing to do with raw foods. Taking supplements is not really a raw food approach. There are many more factors involved including co-nutrients, absorption and acid/alkaline balance to name a few. Supplementing could actually lengthen the cold.>> If you GO BACK to the original post you will see the COMPARISON of allopathic theory compared to that of Dr. Norman Walker! You apparently did not read the whole post! I will only post Dr. Walkers take so you don't get confused. I DO NOT TAKE SUPPLEMENTS EITHER EXCEPT ZINC TABLETS! I get my nutrients from daily raw organic foods and juicing! As for John, I left *HIS GROUP* because he suggests VACCINATION as a healthy shot which is beyond comprehension to ANY educated individual! Jane ps. I have not had a cold or sinus infection in over three years! It is what we shovel in our mouths. OH, SO YOU HAVE A COLD-HAVE YOU? Dr. Norman Walker Excerpt from: Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices . . . what's missing in your body? Dr. Norman Walker pgs. 61-63 Is your breathing congested? Are you sneezing? Do you have a general " letdown " feeling? For many, many years investigators have been, and still are, attempting to find, isolate and identify some evanescent, evasive " germ " to blame for the common cold. Sometime during the middle 1920s, science made the headlines with the " discovery " of a " germ " which was definitely responsible for the common cold, but that it was too small and elusive to be caught or even to be visible by means of the most powerful microscopes they available. Yet, they " discovered " such a " germ " ? In the march of progress in the field of enlarging the image of matter, electronic microscopes have made such vast strides that what is virtually invisible can be magnified many thousands, even hundreds of thousands of time. Scientists are still playing with the thought that " the germ " can be caught, but to my (Walker) knowledge and as a result of all the research and investigations which I (Walker) have been able to make, to such " germ " has yet been seen, caught or harnessed. During the past years-actually since 1946-according to word I (Walker) have from England, some " Scientists, " under the $150,000 a year patronage of the British Government's " Medical Research Council " have been hunting-and, you know the British are notorious for hunting!-For a COLD BUG or VIRUS as the culprit, which could be blamed for or accused of being responsible for the starting or the generation of the COMMON COLD. So far, from every available report they have not yet after many years, been able to find, catch, harness nor " develop " one. Surely they have been able to identify about 100 different germs, virus or bacteria, but not one of these are able to START a cold. Every one of these was feeding on the mucus of Common Colds, the very purpose for which they were created, namely to dissolve, break up, decompose and so dispose of the mucus that manifests the Common Cold. As I (Walker) understand it, these British " Scientists " have some kind of a research hospital where they not only invited people to come there and stay for 10 days or so, free of charge, all meals and everything else provided, but patients are paid something like five shillings a day to come there and submit themselves to the Scientists attempts to find a germ or virus that will GIVE them a cold. It has become quite a fad for some 30 people at a time to go there once or twice a year for a very inexpensive vacation with pay. I (Walker) understand that so far only a handful of people during the past few years did develop a cold, but the germ or virus that was supposed to create it has never been discovered. No, indeed there is not a germ in existence which can cause one to have a cold. The electrical analogy in reference to a cold is worth remembering. The electric system in your home is equipped with fuses. Right? What happens when the electric circuit is overheated, because you have overloaded the line with too many lights and appliances? Does a " germ " notify you that a fuse will blow out or that the overheating of the wires may burn down your home? No, indeed. If the fuse fails to blow out, the overloaded and overheated wires will start a fire. Think this over when you " catch a cold. " The waste matter in the system, if not eliminated, builds up fermentation and heat in the body in the natural course of events. When such fermentation has reached a sufficiently toxic state, Nature becomes worried about our neglect to keep the body clean within, and gives us a warning in the form of mucous elimination which has been labeled " a cold. " It is just as simple as that, we have seen it demonstrated over and over and over again, that if the warning is ignored and disregarded, more serious conditions develop, conditions which are so well-known that a list of them covers a medical encyclopedia. Never curse a cold which has caught up with you. Rather be thankful for the timely warning, and do something about it. No drug was ever known to cure a cold without the development of eventual afflictions of a more serious nature, rarely attributed to such drugs. To put it briefly, a cold is the result of the secretion of too much accumulated waste, and insufficient and improper elimination. The Colon is the recipient of all this corruption. Toxins spread thought the body generating unhealthy mucus in the sinus cavities. Excessive waste matter is the contributing factor in the generation of mucus. The result - A COLD. An . . . . . . . . . . Excerpt from: Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices . . . what's missing in your body? 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 I agree totally. Thank goodness for firsthand knowledge. Like many people, I was once a vitamin/herb popping vegan so I understand this compulsion. However after being raw for a couple of years, I am VERY clear that all the nutrients we could ever want are in whole vegtables and fruits. The less toxins we put in, the less we are compelled to put in to counter them by popping pills and getting vaccinated. Get out of your bodies way by not putting junk into it and before ya know- bingo, no more colds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 " Roger Haeske " <roger@s...> wrote: > Why do you even post on this board? What you say has > nothing to do with raw foods. Taking supplements is > not really a raw food approach. I replied to a pre-existing post. I added my own two cents. I have never heard of any one avoiding a cold with Raw Foods. Next time attack the original poster, please, and not me. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 Sorry, John, Colds have become a thing of the past with the rawfood diet for me too. So please add me to your list of exceptions. As posted elsewhere, it's largely grains that pours the mucous down the nose. Peter John Gohde <johnhgohde [johnhgohde] samedi 11 janvier 2003 23:28 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Oh, so you have a cold-have you? " Roger Haeske " <roger@s...> wrote: > Why do you even post on this board? What you say has > nothing to do with raw foods. Taking supplements is > not really a raw food approach. I replied to a pre-existing post. I added my own two cents. I have never heard of any one avoiding a cold with Raw Foods. Next time attack the original poster, please, and not me. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Sorry, John, > Colds have become a thing of the past with the rawfood diet > for me too. > So please add me to your list of exceptions. Sorry, but I tend to believe that anyone who subjects themselves to the stress of a cold, wet, and windy environment for a long enough period of time will come down with a cold regardless of what ever diet that they happen to eat. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2003 Report Share Posted January 15, 2003 John, you may well be right but I've been plagued with frequent colds and always caught the flu or what ever might have been making the rounds even though I live in southern California. Since becoming a 70-80% raw vegan, I haven't had so much as the sniffles and my " hay fever " is a thing of the past. Half the time I'm 100% raw vegan but on occasion my DH wants cooked or even a bit of grass-fed beef or bison or organic chicken and I get the occasionally crave for a whole wheat pasta dish so I'm not hard core about my diet. I guess I'm a fence sitter. I attribute my incredibly improved health more to what I don't eat than what I do...no sugar, salt, refined or packaged foods, and no dairy. I'm mainly raw because after an initial strict raw diet for about six months my taste changed and I'm always disappointed when I eat cooked food or meat and wish I'd chosen raw instead. Old cravings sometimes call to me, but leave me disappointed. Natures food I find the best and most satisfying. Someday I hope you'll give a raw diet a try for a few months. I've become both physically and mentally an entirely different person from the experience. Thanks for your input on this list and happy new year! Lauretta " ...Sorry, but I tend to believe that anyone who subjects themselves to the stress of a cold, wet, and windy environment for a long enough period of time will come down with a cold regardless of what ever diet that they happen to eat. " -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 John, I walk for an hour a day and for the past week the temperatures have been sub zero Centigrade. Dr. Douglas Graham goes barefoot in the snow or so I read. Feel free to believe what you want. Peter John Gohde <johnhgohde [johnhgohde] dimanche 12 janvier 2003 18:36 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Oh, so you have a cold-have you? " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Sorry, John, > Colds have become a thing of the past with the rawfood diet > for me too. > So please add me to your list of exceptions. Sorry, but I tend to believe that anyone who subjects themselves to the stress of a cold, wet, and windy environment for a long enough period of time will come down with a cold regardless of what ever diet that they happen to eat. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Actually I've seen and read of several studies that proved that cold temperatures had nothing to do with people getting sick. So it must be something else. Roger Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach Roger Haeske the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Inifinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com <http://www.superbeing.com/> . Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com <http://www.superbeingdiet.com%20/> to learn how to go 100% RAW. Peter Gardiner [petergardiner] Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:23 AM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] Re: Oh, so you have a cold-have you? John, I walk for an hour a day and for the past week the temperatures have been sub zero Centigrade. Dr. Douglas Graham goes barefoot in the snow or so I read. Feel free to believe what you want. Peter John Gohde <johnhgohde [johnhgohde] dimanche 12 janvier 2003 18:36 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Oh, so you have a cold-have you? " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Sorry, John, > Colds have become a thing of the past with the rawfood diet > for me too. > So please add me to your list of exceptions. Sorry, but I tend to believe that anyone who subjects themselves to the stress of a cold, wet, and windy environment for a long enough period of time will come down with a cold regardless of what ever diet that they happen to eat. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Feel free to believe what you want. So, far this season I have yet to get a cold. I don't ever recall getting the flu as an adult. When I do get " sick, " it don't last much more than one day and is generally due to food poisoning (like when I ate some bad shrimp). Actually, I do expect to be going on a 70-80% all raw food diet on a temporary basis in a couple of weeks. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 John It is very common knowledge that raw foodists do not catch colds, or flue, or cancer, or heart disease, or 90% of the ailments of mankind. If you don't know this, why in the world would you become raw. Brian Clement stated that Ann Wigmore's hair went from grey back to its original color by drinking Rejuvelac. Here is an article on why grains are bad for us; http://www.rawvegan.com/grains.html And here is another; http://www.justeatanapple.com/nuts_and_seeds.html Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Hi everyone Sorry Peter, I win I live in Finland where just the other week the temperature kept at -25 C for several days (in the north they even measured -41 C)... Yet, life goes on as usual, there are no major cold epidemies going around or anything, everyone goes to work, school etc. I myself use the bike all year round. Just wanted to point out that weather has little to do with catching a cold, indeed. What *is* a bit of a problem up here though is the lack of daylight at this time of year... Plus all fruit is imported Greetings from a newcomer from the top of the world, Nanna Finland rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > John, > > I walk for an hour a day and for the past week the temperatures have > been > sub zero Centigrade. Dr. Douglas Graham goes barefoot in the snow or so > I read. > > Feel free to believe what you want. > > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 In a message dated 1/18/03 6:29:13 AM, rawfood writes: Thank you Nanna, Peter and Roger on your take on colds. I know people who live in Alaska and they all say, cold weather, getting wet and drafts DO NOT PLAY ANY ROLE in the common cold! Again . . . To put it briefly, a cold is the result of the secretion of too much accumulated waste, and insufficient and improper elimination. The Colon is the recipient of all this corruption. Toxins spread thought the body generating unhealthy mucus in the sinus cavities. Excessive waste matter is the contributing factor in the generation of mucus. The result - A COLD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Thanks, Your point about cold and colds trumps John in spades! Your point about the sun is interesting. I would like to know what forum thinking is on Vitamin D. I am fairly sure I get a deficiency from it in winter and I have heard that it can be obtained through meat or fat which exposes me somewhat. Am not keen to buy a sun-lamp. Or should I put my anxiety in this area on the shelf with proteins and B12? Peter nanna_mi <nanna_mi [nanna_mi] Friday, January 17, 2003 12:41 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Oh, so you have a cold-have you? Hi everyone Sorry Peter, I win I live in Finland where just the other week the temperature kept at -25 C for several days (in the north they even measured -41 C)... Yet, life goes on as usual, there are no major cold epidemies going around or anything, everyone goes to work, school etc. I myself use the bike all year round. Just wanted to point out that weather has little to do with catching a cold, indeed. What *is* a bit of a problem up here though is the lack of daylight at this time of year... Plus all fruit is imported Greetings from a newcomer from the top of the world, Nanna Finland rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > John, > > I walk for an hour a day and for the past week the temperatures have > been sub zero Centigrade. Dr. Douglas Graham goes barefoot in the > snow or so > I read. > > Feel free to believe what you want. > > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Your point about cold and colds trumps John in spades! Sorry, but I don't care if you live in Finland or on the North Pole. Fall through the ice and get wet, YOU are going to have a little bit of a problem. You might actually get a cold. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 On my final comment on the subject: People have been known to die from " Exposure. " So, it is only common sense that if a person can die from " Exposure " they can suffer something less than death. Like perhaps pneumonia or even the common cold? Take a walk in space without a space suit and you will be dead, regardless of your all raw food diet. To claim that cavemen 200,000 years ago who ate an all raw food diet never got a cold is ludicrous. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 John, At the risk of flogging this horse to death, I concede that a person on a SAD diet who is " run down " is highly susceptible to getting a cold. I also agree that cold can injure and kill. The common cold does not thrive on a raw diet. The tendency for raw foodists is that they excrete less of their body through the nose and the skin and a little more through the hair and the nails. 'Nuff said Peter John Gohde <johnhgohde [johnhgohde] Saturday, January 18, 2003 7:37 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Oh, so you have a cold-have you? On my final comment on the subject: People have been known to die from " Exposure. " So, it is only common sense that if a person can die from " Exposure " they can suffer something less than death. Like perhaps pneumonia or even the common cold? Take a walk in space without a space suit and you will be dead, regardless of your all raw food diet. To claim that cavemen 200,000 years ago who ate an all raw food diet never got a cold is ludicrous. -- John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 You obviously know nothing about raw foods or history, perhaps you should read more. Doug rawfood , " John Gohde <johnhgohde> " <johnhgohde> wrote: > On my final comment on the subject: People have been known to die > from " Exposure. " So, it is only common sense that if a person can die > from " Exposure " they can suffer something less than death. Like > perhaps pneumonia or even the common cold? > > Take a walk in space without a space suit and you will be dead, > regardless of your all raw food diet. > > To claim that cavemen 200,000 years ago who ate an all raw food diet > never got a cold is ludicrous. > -- > John Gohde -- Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people > trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle. > Health-with-Attitude/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Hi Nanna, greatings to you from the north as well. Good to hear that we are quite a few raw guys here on top of the world. Yes, riding my bike year round is a must (there is just no point in having a car for me right now) Fruitfully (imported too :-) René Norway :-) rawfood , " nanna_mi <nanna_mi> " <nanna_mi> wrote: > Hi everyone > > Sorry Peter, I win I live in Finland where just the other week the > temperature kept at -25 C for several days (in the north they even > measured -41 C)... Yet, life goes on as usual, there are no major > cold epidemies going around or anything, everyone goes to work, > school etc. I myself use the bike all year round. Just wanted to > point out that weather has little to do with catching a cold, indeed. > > What *is* a bit of a problem up here though is the lack of daylight > at this time of year... Plus all fruit is imported > > Greetings from a newcomer from the top of the world, > Nanna > Finland > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> > wrote: > > John, > > > > I walk for an hour a day and for the past week the temperatures have > > been > > sub zero Centigrade. Dr. Douglas Graham goes barefoot in the snow > or so > > I read. > > > > Feel free to believe what you want. > > > > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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