Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Hi all Quick question for the 100%ers--what do you normally do for a warm meal when the weather is cold? Best Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 This to me seems like asking an African to recommend a sunscreen. Thing about raw food is that it always arrives a exactly the right temperature. Raw food reaches the blood stream much faster than cooked food. If I were to feel the need for food to heat myself, I would probably opt for a sweet fruit. Does this help? PG Manoj Vijayan [manojv] Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:40 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Warm meals? Hi all Quick question for the 100%ers--what do you normally do for a warm meal when the weather is cold? Best Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Hi Peter, I guess I didn't phrase that properly. I meant that on a cold winter night, one normally feels emotionally and to an extent physiologically for a hot piping meal. Unless--I don't know--raw foodists don't feel the cold. I noticed in several places mention of " raw food recipes " which I assumed involve a certain amount of preparation leading to a lightly cooked meal--perhaps I was wrong. Maybe one could partake of a cup of hot herbal tea--unless that is also verboten. Anyway, just wondering. Best, Manoj PS having lived in Tanzania, East Africa till I was 17, I can tell you that in many parts of Africa there exists a certain " reverse snobbery " that values a fair skin over a dark one. So I imagine many Africans would indeed have views on which sunscreen to use :-) > This to me seems like asking an African to recommend a sunscreen. > > Thing about raw food is that it always arrives a exactly the right > temperature. > > Raw food reaches the blood stream much faster than cooked food. If I > were to > feel the need for food to heat myself, I would probably opt for a sweet > fruit. > > Does this help? > > PG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Hi Manoj, As far as the hot food thing. No animals in nature eat heated foods. They have to live outdoors in the wintertime and eat whatever they can at the same temperature it is outside. Unless of course they are carnivores. In preparing raw recipes, they are not heated. You don't need heat to prepare food. Some people will slightly heat a meal to say 110 degrees. But there is a debate as to how high you can go before you start destroying the enzymes. Anywhere from only 104 to 118 degrees. After you get used to doing the raw diet you don't feel the need for hot foods. By the way, the food does not really warm you up. Victoria Boutenko said that if you want food to heat you up " you should sit in a bathtub of hot rice. " Producing body heat is a normal body function. What happens though is that people are used to eating hot meals. So first, you have to get over that habit. Second, in the beginning when going on a raw diet you may start to feel colder than you are used to. You can counter that by eating the same amount of calories raw as you are used to eating cooked. Most people radically undereat when first transitioning to raw because they feel so much more full on raw foods. But if you undereat it will be like a fast to your body. When the body fasts it tends to get cold at first. Next you will need to exercise on a daily basis. Try to actually build muscle as well. Aerobics are good to for keeping you warm. But building some muscle will be important because you are bound to lose weight and you won't look good if you don't have any muscles. I use heavyhands and I get an aerobic workout and muscle building workout all in one. It is really quite efficient. I do other exercises as well but if I had to do one exercise only it would be heavyhands. Getting too cold was one of my downfalls the first time I tried going 100% raw. In fact, I exacerbated it by eating at least 70% of my diets from oranges. Oranges and citrus fruit are a cooling food as I found out much later. I would eventually get to the point of eating one bite of an orange at room temperature and it would send chills down my spine. My toleration of the cold was much worse than the average cookedfooder. According to Dr. Graham the body temperature of a 100% raw foodist is actually much lower than most cooked food eaters. He says they run on average at 94 degrees. That means that everyone else is running a fever. So at first it takes some adjusting time to feel warm on a raw diet. Doing lots of exercise helps. Believe it or not eating lots of raw fats only makes things worse. A high fat diet slows down the circulation. This winter I had a pleasant surprise. I've often noticed people complaining about the cold. Just about every time they said how cold it was, I was feeling just fine. So my tolerance for cold weather is getting better. I was never, even in my cooked days a very hot type. Now at about 5 or 6% body fat I can handle the cold weather pretty well. This is surprising because in the summer time I feel about 7 degrees cooler than everyone else. Everyone is complaining about the heat and I just love it. We had a very hot summer and I didn't need the air-conditioning even on the worst days. So now, I can tolerate higher and lower temperatures and yet I don't eat heated food. This is a common occurrence among 100% raw foodists. I know of a raw foodist who runs 14 miles every morning. He will run with his shirt off in temperatures as cold as 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Below that temperature he will put a shirt on. So in summary I believe that hot foods are a man made invention that do us more harm than good. In fact, the heating may make us less susceptible to handling the cold weather. Roger Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach Roger Haeske the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn how to go 100% RAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Hi Roger, Wow what a very informative post. I learnt a lot from this. Thanks a ton!! Best wishes Manoj > Hi Manoj, > > As far as the hot food thing <snipped> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Manoj, You may think this reverse snobbery but the appeal of herbal teas and the like is very low indeed. Occasionally in a social context, to keep off the subject of diet, I sip some potion but it does nothing for me. Having spent some effort at the start of changing my lifestyle, getting off a number of potions, coffee included, the appeal of stimulants is even lower. Same goes for the " prepared food " . The notion that good ingredients need mixing into something that could resemble a garbage can is only valid when you look from the other side. A raw diet to most non-raw foodists looks boring enough to cause instant depression. Surely, a plate of green leave needs at least a twist of lemon or some other " civilized " enhancement to detract from its natural flavour? Not for me. Such a mixture would send a message to my stomach saying " expect chaos " . Then massive secretions would be followed by the chemistry of gasses and the fragrance of such catastrophe. There are lots of raw food receipts about and they have an appeal in transition and I defend the right of people to eat what they want. Mean time I might ponder upon whether I am a snob or a reversed snob. Peter Manoj Vijayan [manojv] Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:29 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Warm meals? Hi Peter, I guess I didn't phrase that properly. I meant that on a cold winter night, one normally feels emotionally and to an extent physiologically for a hot piping meal. Unless--I don't know--raw foodists don't feel the cold. I noticed in several places mention of " raw food recipes " which I assumed involve a certain amount of preparation leading to a lightly cooked meal--perhaps I was wrong. Maybe one could partake of a cup of hot herbal tea--unless that is also verboten. Anyway, just wondering. Best, Manoj PS having lived in Tanzania, East Africa till I was 17, I can tell you that in many parts of Africa there exists a certain " reverse snobbery " that values a fair skin over a dark one. So I imagine many Africans would indeed have views on which sunscreen to use :-) > This to me seems like asking an African to recommend a sunscreen. > > Thing about raw food is that it always arrives a exactly the right > temperature. > > Raw food reaches the blood stream much faster than cooked food. If I > were to feel the need for food to heat myself, I would probably opt > for a sweet fruit. > > Does this help? > > PG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Wow! That was brilliant and enlightening! Thanks! Tell us/me more about heavyhands. Don't know about them. - Roger Haeske rawfood Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:18 AM RE: [Raw Food] Warm meals? Hi Manoj, As far as the hot food thing. No animals in nature eat heated foods. They have to live outdoors in the wintertime and eat whatever they can at the same temperature it is outside. Unless of course they are carnivores. In preparing raw recipes, they are not heated. You don't need heat to prepare food. Some people will slightly heat a meal to say 110 degrees. But there is a debate as to how high you can go before you start destroying the enzymes. Anywhere from only 104 to 118 degrees. After you get used to doing the raw diet you don't feel the need for hot foods. By the way, the food does not really warm you up. Victoria Boutenko said that if you want food to heat you up " you should sit in a bathtub of hot rice. " Producing body heat is a normal body function. What happens though is that people are used to eating hot meals. So first, you have to get over that habit. Second, in the beginning when going on a raw diet you may start to feel colder than you are used to. You can counter that by eating the same amount of calories raw as you are used to eating cooked. Most people radically undereat when first transitioning to raw because they feel so much more full on raw foods. But if you undereat it will be like a fast to your body. When the body fasts it tends to get cold at first. Next you will need to exercise on a daily basis. Try to actually build muscle as well. Aerobics are good to for keeping you warm. But building some muscle will be important because you are bound to lose weight and you won't look good if you don't have any muscles. I use heavyhands and I get an aerobic workout and muscle building workout all in one. It is really quite efficient. I do other exercises as well but if I had to do one exercise only it would be heavyhands. Getting too cold was one of my downfalls the first time I tried going 100% raw. In fact, I exacerbated it by eating at least 70% of my diets from oranges. Oranges and citrus fruit are a cooling food as I found out much later. I would eventually get to the point of eating one bite of an orange at room temperature and it would send chills down my spine. My toleration of the cold was much worse than the average cookedfooder. According to Dr. Graham the body temperature of a 100% raw foodist is actually much lower than most cooked food eaters. He says they run on average at 94 degrees. That means that everyone else is running a fever. So at first it takes some adjusting time to feel warm on a raw diet. Doing lots of exercise helps. Believe it or not eating lots of raw fats only makes things worse. A high fat diet slows down the circulation. This winter I had a pleasant surprise. I've often noticed people complaining about the cold. Just about every time they said how cold it was, I was feeling just fine. So my tolerance for cold weather is getting better. I was never, even in my cooked days a very hot type. Now at about 5 or 6% body fat I can handle the cold weather pretty well. This is surprising because in the summer time I feel about 7 degrees cooler than everyone else. Everyone is complaining about the heat and I just love it. We had a very hot summer and I didn't need the air-conditioning even on the worst days. So now, I can tolerate higher and lower temperatures and yet I don't eat heated food. This is a common occurrence among 100% raw foodists. I know of a raw foodist who runs 14 miles every morning. He will run with his shirt off in temperatures as cold as 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Below that temperature he will put a shirt on. So in summary I believe that hot foods are a man made invention that do us more harm than good. In fact, the heating may make us less susceptible to handling the cold weather. Roger Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach Roger Haeske the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn how to go 100% RAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Awesome post!! I thought of some questions though: " In fact, I exacerbated it by eating at least 70% of my diets from oranges. Oranges and citrus fruit are a cooling food as I found out much later. " What are other 'cold' foods? What are some 'warm' foods? Is there a way other than personal trial and error to find out which foods are 'warming' and which are 'cooling'? Thanks Monte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 you don't have to use " heavy hands " , Mary Ann. They're just a hand held device that wraps over the hand and adds a pound or two of weight while walking or jogging. You can increase your blood flow and heart rate in a number of ways without using them. Manoj, you mentioned having more of an emotional need for hot food than a physiological one. I wonder how you've dealt with other emotional attachments to food. I am fortunate in that sugar, candy, etc. were not used as bribes or reward when I was growing up. And I was never all that fond of meat, so giving it up (for the last 25 years) has been easy. However, I'm certain that isn't the norm. (nothing about me is normal My point is that I'm assuming that you are eating raw to some degree and you've cut out at least a substantial percentage of either animal products, fried foods, baked goods, and/or all the other things that most people have strong (albeit unadmitted) attachments to. I'm just suggesting that you could use the same messages-to-self that you might have used to give up, or cut back, on those other things. That said, I DO agree that there IS a physiological need for hot things. I have been in a few dire situations in the mountains where the beginning stages of hypothermia set in. MAYBE if I had been a raw foodist at the time, things would have happened differently. I don't know. However,in the worst of those dire situations, hot fluids (water) woke me from my phase of " uncontrollable internal shivering which turned into a calm state of falling asleep " . Of course, we aren't likely to be in situations like that often, but for years, I've even ordered my water without ice because it used to make me shiver when I ate out at restaurants, and I wouldn't notice how cold I was getting until someone pointed out my lips or fingers were blue, or that I was shivering. I'll be interested to see if that stops now that I'm going raw-ish. As much as I am a strong advocate of any and all exercise (I " ve been a personal trainer for 9 years), I don't believe it's the answer to body warming. At the time I had my worst hypothermia incident, I was doing triathlons all over the country and placed in the top three women in every race I did. Exercise will definitely warm you while you're doing it. But not necessarily before or after. I swam 2 miles per week, ran four days a week,and biked over 200 miles a week. And yet, I'd sit on a ski lift and get so cold, I couldn't warm back up while on the slope. It took a hot drink to do it. It takes something more than exercise. I'm not 100% raw, nor am I a nutritionist, so I won't say that raw isn't the answer. Maybe it is. As for the African issue, well, yes, um, er, I have to say that I had 21 African clients last year, and every one of them is white (not just " light-skinned " ). Hence, they do know about sunscreen, but I suppose that some Americans don't want to be called " black " , so I can understand your choice-of-word dilemma, Peter, and I do think we all know what you meant. I don't think Manoj was referring to you as either a snob or a " reverse snob " . kim Roswell, ga. --- Mary Ann Hogan <mahmuh wrote: > Wow! That was brilliant and enlightening! Thanks! Tell us/me > more about heavyhands. Don't know about them. > - > Roger Haeske > rawfood > Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:18 AM > RE: [Raw Food] Warm meals? > > > Hi Manoj, > > As far as the hot food thing. No animals in nature eat > heated foods. They have to live outdoors in the wintertime > and eat whatever they can at the same temperature it is > outside. Unless of course they are carnivores. > > In preparing raw recipes, they are not heated. You don't > need heat to prepare food. Some people will slightly heat a > meal to say 110 degrees. But there is a debate as to how > high you can go before you start destroying the enzymes. > Anywhere from only 104 to 118 degrees. > > After you get used to doing the raw diet you don't feel the > need for hot foods. By the way, the food does not really > warm you up. Victoria Boutenko said that if you want food to > heat you up " you should sit in a bathtub of hot rice. " > Producing body heat is a normal body function. What happens > though is that people are used to eating hot meals. So > first, you have to get over that habit. Second, in the > beginning when going on a raw diet you may start to feel > colder than you are used to. > > You can counter that by eating the same amount of calories > raw as you are used to eating cooked. Most people radically > undereat when first transitioning to raw because they feel > so much more full on raw foods. But if you undereat it will > be like a fast to your body. When the body fasts it tends to > get cold at first. > > Next you will need to exercise on a daily basis. Try to > actually build muscle as well. Aerobics are good to for > keeping you warm. But building some muscle will be important > because you are bound to lose weight and you won't look good > if you don't have any muscles. I use heavyhands and I get an > aerobic workout and muscle building workout all in one. It > is really quite efficient. I do other exercises as well but > if I had to do one exercise only it would be heavyhands. > > Getting too cold was one of my downfalls the first time I > tried going 100% raw. In fact, I exacerbated it by eating at > least 70% of my diets from oranges. Oranges and citrus fruit > are a cooling food as I found out much later. I would > eventually get to the point of eating one bite of an orange > at room temperature and it would send chills down my spine. > My toleration of the cold was much worse than the average > cookedfooder. > > According to Dr. Graham the body temperature of a 100% raw > foodist is actually much lower than most cooked food eaters. > He says they run on average at 94 degrees. That means that > everyone else is running a fever. So at first it takes some > adjusting time to feel warm on a raw diet. Doing lots of > exercise helps. Believe it or not eating lots of raw fats > only makes things worse. > > A high fat diet slows down the circulation. This winter I > had a pleasant surprise. I've often noticed people > complaining about the cold. Just about every time they said > how cold it was, I was feeling just fine. So my tolerance > for cold weather is getting better. I was never, even in my > cooked days a very hot type. Now at about 5 or 6% body fat I > can handle the cold weather pretty well. > > This is surprising because in the summer time I feel about > 7 degrees cooler than everyone else. Everyone is complaining > about the heat and I just love it. We had a very hot summer > and I didn't need the air-conditioning even on the worst > days. So now, I can tolerate higher and lower temperatures > and yet I don't eat heated food. This is a common occurrence > among 100% raw foodists. I know of a raw foodist who runs 14 > miles every morning. He will run with his shirt off in > temperatures as cold as 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Below that > temperature he will put a shirt on. > > So in summary I believe that hot foods are a man made > invention that do us more harm than good. In fact, the > heating may make us less susceptible to handling the cold > weather. > > Roger > > > Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick > with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary > Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite > Potential and Raw Food Coach Roger Haeske the author of Your > Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and > http://www.superbeing.com. Go to > http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn how to go 100% RAW. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Hello Mary Ann, I'm glad you found my post useful. Heavyhands is an exercise system using light weights. It can be very low impact, can be done while walking or while watching TV. You can look it up on any search engine to find out more. I started doing them probably around 1982. So I guess I've been doing it for 20 years now. Wow does time fly. I started with one pound weights and now I use 6 pound weights. Try to get one of the books by Dr. Leonard Schwartz about heavyhands. It will show you all sorts of exercises and you'll learn about fitness in general. Once I started doing heavyhands regularly my metabolism really sped up. I felt like I was just burning food like a roaring furnace. My energy levels went up and I got in great shape. I had a list of about 10 great reasons for doing heavyhands so I kept on doing them for years. Sometimes I've focused more on other workouts. But if I wanted to lose weight and feel great and had only one exercise routine it would be heavyhands. You can also develop a fairly nice build with heavyhands, though you won't get as big as if you used heavy weights. Try it out, Roger Haeske Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach, Roger Haeske, the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com <http://www.superbeing.com/> . Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com <http://www.superbeingdiet.com%20/> to learn how to go 100% RAW. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Heavyhands books on amazon! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/104-2730329-3031900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Dear Peter and Manoj, thank you for your conversation. Since last week I can totally agree with Peter. What made me change my " garbage bin " :-)food preparation habbit? First of all the problems I was facing by this style of rawfood diet, mostly based on mixed meals with all kinds of fats and nuts. Bulemia and hypoglycemia were well known things to me. Thanks to our group, Rogers fabulous tips and the new book from Frederic Patenaude, which I strongly recommend for everyone planing seriously to go raw. " Raw Secrets " is a well choosen name for such a book. Thank you Fred! So tomorrow I'm going to start a membership at the local fitness center to get my body in shape and some muscles around my bones. Airobics sound good in the first place. Hope it will make the Norwegian winter more enjoyable. Fruitfully and simple René :-) rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Manoj, > > You may think this reverse snobbery but the appeal of herbal teas and > the like > is very low indeed. Occasionally in a social context, to keep off the > subject > of diet, I sip some potion but it does nothing for me. Having spent some > effort > at the start of changing my lifestyle, getting off a number of potions, > coffee > included, the appeal of stimulants is even lower. > > Same goes for the " prepared food " . The notion that good ingredients > need mixing > into something that could resemble a garbage can is only valid when you > look from > the other side. > > A raw diet to most non-raw foodists looks boring enough to cause instant > depression. > Surely, a plate of green leave needs at least a twist of lemon or some > other " civilized " > enhancement to detract from its natural flavour? Not for me. Such a > mixture would send a > message to my stomach saying " expect chaos " . Then massive secretions > would be followed > by the chemistry of gasses and the fragrance of such catastrophe. > > There are lots of raw food receipts about and they have an appeal in > transition and I defend > the right of people to eat what they want. > > Mean time I might ponder upon whether I am a snob or a reversed snob. > > Peter > > > > > > > Manoj Vijayan [manojv@n...] > Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:29 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Warm meals? > > > Hi Peter, > I guess I didn't phrase that properly. > I meant that on a cold winter night, one normally feels emotionally and > to an extent physiologically for a hot piping meal. Unless--I don't > know--raw foodists don't feel the cold. I noticed in several places > mention of " raw food recipes " which I assumed involve a certain amount > of preparation leading to a lightly cooked meal--perhaps I was wrong. > Maybe one could partake of a cup of hot herbal tea--unless that is also > verboten. Anyway, just wondering. Best, Manoj PS having lived in > Tanzania, East Africa till I was 17, I can tell you that in many parts > of Africa there exists a certain " reverse snobbery " that values a fair > skin over a dark one. So I imagine many Africans would indeed have views > on which sunscreen to use :-) > > > > This to me seems like asking an African to recommend a sunscreen. > > > > Thing about raw food is that it always arrives a exactly the right > > temperature. > > > > Raw food reaches the blood stream much faster than cooked food. If I > > were to feel the need for food to heat myself, I would probably opt > > for a sweet fruit. > > > > Does this help? > > > > PG > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Roger! Thank you so much for the kind generosity of spirit in giving helpful, interesting information about the heavyhands. I will definitely look it up as soon as I finish this post. It's great to know there's also a good book to help " do it right. " Here's my story: I've lost 35 lbs. since I've become a vegan/rawfood enthusiast. I began about 8 months ago. The pounds just melted away even though my reasons at the time were political (for the vegan part) and health minded (for the raw food part) I'm now at the light end of the right weight for my height. Anyway, my big concern, originally, was being healthy enough that all that skin would not be hanging, and I knew that exercise could play a huge part in that. I joined the fitness center at the University of Denver and work out about an hour a day- 50 minutes of the hour is aerobic and approx. 10 minutes of weight training, (focusing on different muscles every other day) If I don't feel like going on some days I just don't. I'm too rebellious in spirit to ever force myself in a regimen. It would just backfire. Your idea of the heavyhands is exactly right for the overall toning that I'm looking for. I can easily imagine that I will be using them for some time to come, like yourself. Wow! Since 1982! I also find that listening to good music while I workout makes the session into an important daily spiritual event in my life. In the back of my mind it always felt like a bit of a waste that my lower body was having such a good workout and my upper body was missing out. Then, Eureka! You posted this great idea which sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. Thank you for a great new piece for the puzzle! If anyone is concerned that I am mainly worried about appearance, that's not the case. I love the looks part of it but my main goal is to be as healthy as possible. Since I get to inhabit this body and experience all of life through it's use, then I want to be the best most highly tuned organism I possibly can be. And with the help of this group I feel confident that I'm on the right path. Sincerely, Mary Ann - Roger Haeske rawfood Sunday, January 19, 2003 8:29 AM RE: [Raw Food] Warm meals? Hello Mary Ann, I'm glad you found my post useful. Heavyhands is an exercise system using light weights. It can be very low impact, can be done while walking or while watching TV. You can look it up on any search engine to find out more. I started doing them probably around 1982. So I guess I've been doing it for 20 years now. Wow does time fly. I started with one pound weights and now I use 6 pound weights. Try to get one of the books by Dr. Leonard Schwartz about heavyhands. It will show you all sorts of exercises and you'll learn about fitness in general. Once I started doing heavyhands regularly my metabolism really sped up. I felt like I was just burning food like a roaring furnace. My energy levels went up and I got in great shape. I had a list of about 10 great reasons for doing heavyhands so I kept on doing them for years. Sometimes I've focused more on other workouts. But if I wanted to lose weight and feel great and had only one exercise routine it would be heavyhands. You can also develop a fairly nice build with heavyhands, though you won't get as big as if you used heavy weights. Try it out, Roger Haeske Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach, Roger Haeske, the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com <http://www.superbeing.com/> . Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com <http://www.superbeingdiet.com%20/> to learn how to go 100% RAW. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Hi Kim, As a matter of fact, I've just today started on the road to going raw. I'm easing myself in by having just fruits till noon and then slowly adding a percentage of salads and juices. At this stage I really don't know how far raw I will go--it depends I guess on the kind of benefits I see and how my body reacts. From what I've read here and elsewhere it seems that there are issues even 100%ers come up against... WRT your question, actually my diet isn't, fortunately, riddled with sweets and refined foods. --except for, till about a year back, soft drinks :-( I *am* fond of chicken, so that will be difficult to cut back on :-) but practically no red meats. I don't particularly like baked foods either. Unfortunately, in my household two or three cups of milk and sugar laced tea/coffee a day is the norm--THAT I am cutting back on. I strongly suspect I am anything but milk-friendly. So I don't expect any major unhealthy cravings, however if any do come up I feel reasonably confident I'll be able to handle them with EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques). If you haven't heard of this, it's a meridian based technique that can best be described as acupressure for the emotions. Very effective and sideeffect -free. Check out www.emofree.com for more information. The request for info on warm meals was because I don't handle the cold months very well and tend to get depressed for days on end. BUT I am just now starting to wonder if I have been suffering all these years from a mild or not so mild case of hypoglycemia--certainly many of the symptoms fit me very well. I'm wondering if I should be careful about eating fruit in that case? Input would be welcome. I note your comments about exercise and heat production which seems to be at odds with Roger's experience. I do believe that in the final analysis we are all different and we have to find out what is good for us. That's why I am taking things slowly :-) As for the " snob " bit--yes, I *most certainly* was not implying that Peter is a snob and I hope he didn't think that! :-) I thought he was playing on words as he seems to enjoy doing in his very interesting posts! And my comment to the sunscreen bit was just an attempt at a little humor :-) Best wishes Manoj > > Manoj, you mentioned having more of an emotional need for hot > food than a physiological one. <snipped for brevity> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Manoj, It seems to me as though you are off on the right foot. The crucial area in which you are silent in this post is exercise. An hour a day of walking will get rid of yesterday's sugar and do a dozen other things which are " good for you " and in particular lift you from any form of negative thinking and set your thermostat better so that the worry about cold diminishes. I always think it is not a bad idea to start off with a bit of a fast just to clear out some of the past diet and sharpen the appetite for the new rich flavours that will come out of the simplest foods. Also when craving of any kind crop up, put out a hand for the green leaves. On sunscreen and snobs, I preceded the latter with " might think " about my context as really I have no concerns about my status in that department. Sin Nobilis, the root of snobbery, is not my concern. If records were kept better we could all trace out roots back beyond those noble ancestors to the noble savage. In fact we could all trace to Adam except for the Gardiners. We came a day early to fix the Garden Peter Gardiner Manoj Vijayan [manojv] Monday, January 20, 2003 7:45 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Warm meals? Hi Kim, As a matter of fact, I've just today started on the road to going raw. I'm easing myself in by having just fruits till noon and then slowly adding a percentage of salads and juices. At this stage I really don't know how far raw I will go--it depends I guess on the kind of benefits I see and how my body reacts. From what I've read here and elsewhere it seems that there are issues even 100%ers come up against... WRT your question, actually my diet isn't, fortunately, riddled with sweets and refined foods. --except for, till about a year back, soft drinks :-( I *am* fond of chicken, so that will be difficult to cut back on :-) but practically no red meats. I don't particularly like baked foods either. Unfortunately, in my household two or three cups of milk and sugar laced tea/coffee a day is the norm--THAT I am cutting back on. I strongly suspect I am anything but milk-friendly. So I don't expect any major unhealthy cravings, however if any do come up I feel reasonably confident I'll be able to handle them with EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques). If you haven't heard of this, it's a meridian based technique that can best be described as acupressure for the emotions. Very effective and sideeffect -free. Check out www.emofree.com for more information. The request for info on warm meals was because I don't handle the cold months very well and tend to get depressed for days on end. BUT I am just now starting to wonder if I have been suffering all these years from a mild or not so mild case of hypoglycemia--certainly many of the symptoms fit me very well. I'm wondering if I should be careful about eating fruit in that case? Input would be welcome. I note your comments about exercise and heat production which seems to be at odds with Roger's experience. I do believe that in the final analysis we are all different and we have to find out what is good for us. That's why I am taking things slowly :-) As for the " snob " bit--yes, I *most certainly* was not implying that Peter is a snob and I hope he didn't think that! :-) I thought he was playing on words as he seems to enjoy doing in his very interesting posts! And my comment to the sunscreen bit was just an attempt at a little humor :-) Best wishes Manoj > > Manoj, you mentioned having more of an emotional need for hot food > than a physiological one. <snipped for brevity> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Hi Peter > > It seems to me as though you are off on the right foot. The crucial > area in which you are silent in this post is exercise. An hour a day of > walking will get rid of yesterday's sugar and do a dozen other things > which are " good for you " and in particular lift you from any form of > negative thinking and set your thermostat better so that the worry about > cold diminishes. I always think it is not a bad idea to start off with a > bit of a fast just to clear out some of the past diet and sharpen the > appetite for the new rich flavours that will come out of the simplest > foods. Also when craving of any kind crop up, put out a hand for the > green leaves. I absolutely agree with you--in fact my exercise routine of choice has been the Royal Canadian Air Force 5BX fitness plan, which always gave me good results when I was on it. But, of late I had been finding that exercise, instead of energising and ennervating me, had actually been making me more, not less, tired and lethargic--and I am talking about really minimal levels of exercise. Adding rebounding to the routine only seemed to worsen things. Clearly--I feel--the toxic buildup in my system seemed to have reached such a stage that what was once good for it was now actually harming it. Gudrun Jonsson, in her excellent book " Gut Reaction " , which while not strictly a raw food book still contains much--dare I say it--food for thought, makes the point that many people would be well advised to get in shape on the inside first, by clearing up the body internally, then exercising, so as not to add more stress to an already overburdened system. So I think I will wait just a little bit before resuming my workouts. The good news being that shouldn't take too long, if the way I feel today compared to just yesterday is anything to go by... > > On sunscreen and snobs, I preceded the latter with " might think " about > my context as really I have no concerns about my status in that > department. Sin Nobilis, the root of snobbery, is not my concern. If > records were kept better we could all trace out roots back beyond those > noble ancestors to the noble savage. In fact we could all trace to Adam > except for the Gardiners. We came a day early to fix the Garden LOL! Good one :-) Thanks and good wishes Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Hi Monte, David Wolfe names a few cooling fruits as melons, oranges, young coconuts, cucumbers, green leaves... Personally I can agree with him on watermelon, oranges and cucumbers, but I don't think they make you shiver when eaten in normal quantities, even in winter. What I definitly experience as warming fruits are dates. Jaime from The Date People wrote a very interesting article " In Defence of the Dates " on dates where he cites a book called " The Date Palm " written by Paul Poepano in 1914: >Arabs have an interesting classification of dates into hot and cold, according to whether or not they could handle a long continued diet of them, Kustawi is universally considered the coldest date known. Halawi, Zahidi and Barhi and most other dates of sufficiant importance to receive any classification are considered hot. In North Africa Deglet Noor and Thoory would perhaps be considered the hottest and Rhars... the coldest.< Jaime adds: " Mactoom would be considered neither hot nor cold. If you love dates but have a problem with sugar you may want to experiment with the cold varieties, Khadrawi, Kustawi, or Rhars. " If you like to receive the whole article or just want to order a variety of the above named dates contact The Date People dirctly: P.O Box 808 Niland, CA 92257 Phone +1 760 359 3211 Fax +1 760 359 3212 They ship worldwide and are some very lovely raw people! Keep warm! René Norway ;-) rawfood , " Monte <mavalkyrie> " <mavalkyrie> wrote: > > > Awesome post!! I thought of some questions though: > > " In fact, I exacerbated it by eating at > least 70% of my diets from oranges. Oranges and citrus fruit > are a cooling food as I found out much later. " > > What are other 'cold' foods? What are some 'warm' foods? Is there a > way other than personal trial and error to find out which foods > are 'warming' and which are 'cooling'? > > Thanks > > Monte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Rene Thanks so much, I'll check it out. Monte rawfood , " eagle_drum <rene_archner@h...> " <rene_archner@h...> wrote: > > Hi Monte, > David Wolfe names a few cooling fruits as melons, oranges, young > coconuts, cucumbers, green leaves... > Personally I can agree with him on watermelon, oranges and cucumbers, > but I don't think they make you shiver when eaten in normal > quantities, even in winter. > What I definitly experience as warming fruits are dates. > Jaime from The Date People wrote a very interesting article " In > Defence of the Dates " on dates where he cites a book called " The > Date Palm " written by Paul Poepano in 1914: > >Arabs have an interesting classification of dates into hot and cold, > according to whether or not they could handle a long continued diet > of them, Kustawi is universally considered the coldest date known. > Halawi, Zahidi and Barhi and most other dates of sufficiant > importance to receive any classification are considered hot. In North > Africa Deglet Noor and Thoory would perhaps be considered the hottest > and Rhars... the coldest.< > Jaime adds: " Mactoom would be considered neither hot nor cold. If you > love dates but have a problem with sugar you may want to experiment > with the cold varieties, Khadrawi, Kustawi, or Rhars. " > > If you like to receive the whole article or just want to order a > variety of the above named dates contact The Date People dirctly: > P.O Box 808 > Niland, CA 92257 > Phone +1 760 359 3211 > Fax +1 760 359 3212 > > They ship worldwide and are some very lovely raw people! > > Keep warm! > René > Norway > ;-) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Manoj, The keynote on exercise and fasting is " moderate exercise " . The Canadian Air Force routine should be more than that. My idea of moderate exercise was just below a brisk walk. In the past I have said several things about fasting and others have contributed too. If you search on the little search engine inside our group, a number of relevant postings will come to light. Peter Manoj Vijayan [manojv] 21 January 2003 10:54 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Warm meals? Hi Peter > > It seems to me as though you are off on the right foot. The crucial > area in which you are silent in this post is exercise. An hour a day of > walking will get rid of yesterday's sugar and do a dozen other things > which are " good for you " and in particular lift you from any form of > negative thinking and set your thermostat better so that the worry about > cold diminishes. I always think it is not a bad idea to start off with a > bit of a fast just to clear out some of the past diet and sharpen the > appetite for the new rich flavours that will come out of the simplest > foods. Also when craving of any kind crop up, put out a hand for the > green leaves. I absolutely agree with you--in fact my exercise routine of choice has been the Royal Canadian Air Force 5BX fitness plan, which always gave me good results when I was on it. But, of late I had been finding that exercise, instead of energising and ennervating me, had actually been making me more, not less, tired and lethargic--and I am talking about really minimal levels of exercise. Adding rebounding to the routine only seemed to worsen things. Clearly--I feel--the toxic buildup in my system seemed to have reached such a stage that what was once good for it was now actually harming it. Gudrun Jonsson, in her excellent book " Gut Reaction " , which while not strictly a raw food book still contains much--dare I say it--food for thought, makes the point that many people would be well advised to get in shape on the inside first, by clearing up the body internally, then exercising, so as not to add more stress to an already overburdened system. So I think I will wait just a little bit before resuming my workouts. The good news being that shouldn't take too long, if the way I feel today compared to just yesterday is anything to go by... > > On sunscreen and snobs, I preceded the latter with " might think " about > my context as really I have no concerns about my status in that > department. Sin Nobilis, the root of snobbery, is not my concern. If > records were kept better we could all trace out roots back beyond those > noble ancestors to the noble savage. In fact we could all trace to Adam > except for the Gardiners. We came a day early to fix the Garden LOL! Good one :-) Thanks and good wishes Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Hi Peter > The keynote on exercise and fasting is " moderate exercise " . The Canadian > Air Force routine should be more than that. My idea of moderate > exercise was just below a brisk walk. > In the past I have said several > things about fasting and others have contributed too. If you search on > the little search engine inside our group, a number of relevant postings > will come to light. > I know what you meant, but I was in such bad shape that the most basic level of the RCAF plan--and believe me it starts from a level a child would yawn at--used to tire me. The good news is that on day 4 of the program I already feel SO much better than I did when I started that automatically I am more active. Soon start getting still more physical! What is really interesting--since I changed my diet and presumably have stabilised my blood sugar levels, I feel not just a steady level of energy throughout the day, but my emotions are also on an even keel--that is to say I feel very calm and peaceful throughout the day, with no mood swings at all. That is amazing after years of horrible ups and downs! What if we got all the world leaders together in the same place and fed them raw for a week? I'm sure the world would instantly become a better place. best Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Just keep in mind that old Russian saying which keeps me in mind of a Russian trudging across the Steppe. " The slower you go the further you go " . I think the early stages of raw foodism are cyclical. You get a release from stopping the bombardment of the system by food that should never have been eaten in the first place. Then strange ephemeral events take place. Toxins start to leave in ways that have never happened before. New awarenesses emerge. One might feel hungry and alive without the need to eat. The adaptation process starts up. The old habits have to die off. Then in comes the ludicrous advice from all around us. E.g. " It is only by mixing foods and cooking them that you get the food values " . " Do yourself a good turn and eat a bit of real food such as a slice of ham at least. " Then weight loss sets in. The need for exercise becomes apparent. The desire to experiment with the new diet become compelling. Books have to be read, everything that was thought needs rethinking just as one does as a teenager. Then in bowls a friend to ask how the new diet is going and when you respond that it does not look that exciting but seems to have it all even though it really is just fruit and vegetables, he responds, " That is all we were ever supposed to eat in the first place. " In response to your suggestions about world leaders, at the risk of exceeding the limits of this forum, ignorance is an ubitquitous world problem. Fortunately there are signs of progress in a lot of areas. Food and prejudice are exceptions and regressive. The world food programs are beyond the most superficial analysis. However there is one strong connection between food and politics: both are deeply rooted in concepts that were relevant before WW2 Peter i Manoj Vijayan [manojv] 23 January 2003 11:34 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Warm meals? Hi Peter > The keynote on exercise and fasting is " moderate exercise " . The Canadian > Air Force routine should be more than that. My idea of moderate > exercise was just below a brisk walk. > In the past I have said several > things about fasting and others have contributed too. If you search on > the little search engine inside our group, a number of relevant postings > will come to light. > I know what you meant, but I was in such bad shape that the most basic level of the RCAF plan--and believe me it starts from a level a child would yawn at--used to tire me. The good news is that on day 4 of the program I already feel SO much better than I did when I started that automatically I am more active. Soon start getting still more physical! What is really interesting--since I changed my diet and presumably have stabilised my blood sugar levels, I feel not just a steady level of energy throughout the day, but my emotions are also on an even keel--that is to say I feel very calm and peaceful throughout the day, with no mood swings at all. That is amazing after years of horrible ups and downs! What if we got all the world leaders together in the same place and fed them raw for a week? I'm sure the world would instantly become a better place. best Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 In a message dated 1/18/03 12:21:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, roger writes: > I know of a raw foodist who runs 14 > miles every morning. He will run with his shirt off in > temperatures as cold as 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Below that > temperature he will put a shirt on. I wear sandals year round, and I live in Boston. I really do get tired of constant comments like " Aren't your feet cold? " and " Where's your socks? " The cold weather does not bother my feet. I'll even run outside barefoot to my car to get something, sometimes.. no problems. --Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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