Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Ways I failed at going 100% Raw I've had some requests to share in my failures on the raw diet. I attempted to go 100% raw for extended periods of time and failed at least 5 times. The very first time I tried it I had only read two books on a raw food diet. In fact, it was a mucousless diet that I was doing, according to Arnold Ehret. I felt good but after 3 days, I realized that I was giving up way too much. Where was the flavor? All I was basically eating where fruits and some vegetables. I didn't know anything about recipes. I don't even think I was eating much in the way of nuts, seeds or avocados. It was too big of a jump for me to make mentally at that time. The tastes were bland to me and so I couldn't imagine eating like this long term. This wasn't what I wanted for my life so I stopped. The cost for super health SEEMED much too high at the time. The next time I tried it I had read more books. I read Fit for Life and Fit for Life 2 and then I looked for something in Natural Hygiene that emphasized going 100% raw. It seemed to me that would be the best way to go. I got The Basic Health Library of three big 8.5 x 11inch sized books put out by T.C. Fry. So I learned all about Natural Hygiene and fasting. I went 100% raw in the wintertime. I felt many benefits. Eventually I ran into some problems. First of all, I became very thin. So this worried me. I didn't want to look that thin. (Now what I think is normal weight has changed. I've also learned to put on muscle so I don't look so thin.) Then I was cold all the time. I was also hungry all the time. Eventually I realized that I didn't have as much energy as I used to have. So I started eating dried fruit. Somehow this gave me a little more energy. But I never had as much as in my cooked food diet. Then I got the flu. I decided to heal it by fasting. So I got really skinny. This flu just wouldn't go away. It lasted for 6 weeks. So I got very skinny, but I refused to eat cooked food as I equated it in my mind as being poison. I started getting cramping in my feet. Unfortunately had I known a few things I could have stopped that flu. Part of it was elimination but the other part was that my body became either too acidic or too alkaline. Muscle cramping I found out later in the book Conscious Eating, is a symptom of both of these conditions. I probably was so acidic because I was detoxifying too quickly. I really should have done more of a transition to the raw diet. But I wanted the great results right away. Also, had I known about the acid base balance issue I could have made some adjustments. But if I was too acid then I don't know what I could have done besides eat cooked food to slow my elimination down, because the food I was eating was mostly alkaline fruits and vegetables. I barely ate any fats because I did not digest them well. At that time I didn't know about soaking nuts and seeds to make them more digestible. Also my body needed to be infused with enzymes, vitamins and minerals from my poor eating habits. Now I can handle fats much better. I believe had I just eaten some cooked foods I could have stopped that flu within the first week or two. That would have been preferable to such a fast detox. I was sick for 6 weeks and it took me longer than that to get my strength back. Eventually I got to the point where I was still feeling hungry all the time and I didn't have enough energy and so I figured the raw diet was quite good but that my body could not handle it. I was 100% raw for about 3 months and finally gave it up. Eventually I learned about eating raw and soaked oat groats. I blended them with bananas. I also added lots of Spirulina. Sometimes I would blend sunflower seeds with banana. So I tried again to go 100% raw. I did fine for about 2.5 months. Then I had a vacation coming up. I knew I wouldn't be able to handle travel and sticking 100% raw. The reason for this was because I needed my blender for just about every meal. This didn't seem practical that I should need a blender for every meal. So I eventually gave up again. Also blending oat groats with bananas was always producing loose stools for me. I eventually developed these red rashes on my face near my nose. Somehow I believe I got those because of eating so much Spirulina. I ate loads of spirulina for at least 2 years. It also produced in me orange hands as if I were drinking a lot of carrot juice. This happened because of the high levels of beta carotene in spirulina. Those red spots are gone now. It took about a year of going 100% raw and no spirulina. I learned that spirulina wasn't good because it had B12 analogues that could block the absorption of real B12 in my body. Eventually I attended some talks from Dr. Graham that corrected all of my misinformation. Keep in mind that I had attended lectures by most of the worlds top raw foodists before this. They all came to NY City to lecture. But I still couldn't figure out how to do it. I even attended lectures a year before by Dr. Graham. I was open to new ideas, I just wasn't able to put them into practice for the long term. The stuff that Dr. Graham covered at these two lectures corrected all of my false ideas about the raw diet. The key thing I learned was that I wasn't eating enough fruit. That is why I was weak. Yet I thought I was eating a lot of fruit. But when I analyzed the calorie content in what I was eating, I realized I wasn't eating enough. Then I learned all about other Raw Food and Vegetarian myths at the next lecture. I learned that bacteria produces B12 so I didn't have to worry too much about that. And I could supplement B12 if I ever did start showing deficiencies. I learned that there are many more meat eaters who suffer B12 deficiency than vegetarians. So eating meat wasn't necessarily the answer. A week after those lectures I went with my friend and 100% raw foodist Joel Brody to Canada. The night before I had my last Thai Food meal and I planned to at least go 100% raw for two months and see how I could do it. Having him on the trip was really helpful. He brought lots of the organic fruit and vegetables. I imbibed how to do the diet in his presence. A great point he said was that if I was craving cooked food I should just eat more raw food. That took care of the cravings pretty well. I soon realized that at least 50% of the entertainment value of my vacations, was going out to all the restaurants. This was especially true as we were taking a tour of downtown Toronto and going through Chinatown. I was constantly thinking of all the restaurants I'd like to be eating in. This really made my cravings go up. In addition, I was constantly hungry. Joel told me that in the first year of going raw he really ate a lot. Now he eats much less and he gained back the weight he lost so he doesn't look skinny. I had to eat a lot of food since I was just starting to go 100% raw. Later in the trip I learned to focus my mind on all the benefits of the raw diet. I stopped myself from thinking about the fact that I could never eat in a cooked food restaurant again. (At least the cooked foods therein.) I also told myself that I could eat cooked food again after two months, if I really wanted to. This psychological trick allowed me to overcome my initial cravings. Not thinking about what I was missing, tremendously reduced my cravings. Later I found out that most of the cravings were exacerbated by my thinking and not any actual craving. If you focus on the benefits of the raw diet the cravings for cooked foods goes away. Much later on, I learned to start preparing raw food dishes that were so tasty that I didn't have cravings for cooked food anymore. The reason being is I knew I could easily satisfy my cravings through delicious raw foods. I would say that if you can learn to prepare just three tasty raw food dishes, your transition to eating 100% raw foods will be easy. So I hope this was helpful to some of you. Going 100% raw is easy if you know how to do it right. Most people I've found had a hard time doing it without support. I had Joel to watch over me and help me through the initial stages. He told me the cold sores in my mouth were normal and that they were detoxification. The first week I had these sores in my mouth and I kept on biting myself. But they were gone in a week. If Joel weren't there I might have stopped my experiment right away because I was afraid that eating all that fruit was the problem and not that it was a simple detoxification. I talk to Joel all the time. The more you hang around 100% raw foodists the more it rubs off on you. Keep in mind though that you have to be careful. Sometimes you can be doing something wrong and it isn't always detoxification. To Your Radiant Health, Roger Haeske Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach, Roger Haeske, the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn how to go 100% RAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 Generous posting, Roger, Since I discovered the notion of going raw 18 months ago, I have been in this forum and have not faltered. Think not that I am some kind of strong willed person. Kicking nicotine was a long tale of failure until the medic pointed the metaphorical gun at my head saying, " Stop smoking or else! " . It seems that on that call 99% of all smokers give up without any further help, drugs, pads, willpower or failure. Thus in that frame of mind I came to this forum but thinness, cold, lack of knowledge, cramp, rapid detoxification, boredom with the diet, vitamin deficiency fears, etc. have all been my way. Reading the postings of others who know far more than I do is also encouragement. As I see it, we are at the dawn of the new raw food understanding and the road certainly gets easier and brighter. I am sure that many more pointers to the way will pass through this forum and look forward the Raw Food postings in my email each day. Peter Roger Haeske [roger] 24 January 2003 18:56 rawfood ; rawfoodnj [Raw Food] Ways I failed at going 100% Raw Ways I failed at going 100% Raw I've had some requests to share in my failures on the raw diet. I attempted to go 100% raw for extended periods of time and failed at least 5 times. The very first time I tried it I had only read two books on a raw food diet. In fact, it was a mucousless diet that I was doing, according to Arnold Ehret. I felt good but after 3 days, I realized that I was giving up way too much. Where was the flavor? All I was basically eating where fruits and some vegetables. I didn't know anything about recipes. I don't even think I was eating much in the way of nuts, seeds or avocados. It was too big of a jump for me to make mentally at that time. The tastes were bland to me and so I couldn't imagine eating like this long term. This wasn't what I wanted for my life so I stopped. The cost for super health SEEMED much too high at the time. The next time I tried it I had read more books. I read Fit for Life and Fit for Life 2 and then I looked for something in Natural Hygiene that emphasized going 100% raw. It seemed to me that would be the best way to go. I got The Basic Health Library of three big 8.5 x 11inch sized books put out by T.C. Fry. So I learned all about Natural Hygiene and fasting. I went 100% raw in the wintertime. I felt many benefits. Eventually I ran into some problems. First of all, I became very thin. So this worried me. I didn't want to look that thin. (Now what I think is normal weight has changed. I've also learned to put on muscle so I don't look so thin.) Then I was cold all the time. I was also hungry all the time. Eventually I realized that I didn't have as much energy as I used to have. So I started eating dried fruit. Somehow this gave me a little more energy. But I never had as much as in my cooked food diet. Then I got the flu. I decided to heal it by fasting. So I got really skinny. This flu just wouldn't go away. It lasted for 6 weeks. So I got very skinny, but I refused to eat cooked food as I equated it in my mind as being poison. I started getting cramping in my feet. Unfortunately had I known a few things I could have stopped that flu. Part of it was elimination but the other part was that my body became either too acidic or too alkaline. Muscle cramping I found out later in the book Conscious Eating, is a symptom of both of these conditions. I probably was so acidic because I was detoxifying too quickly. I really should have done more of a transition to the raw diet. But I wanted the great results right away. Also, had I known about the acid base balance issue I could have made some adjustments. But if I was too acid then I don't know what I could have done besides eat cooked food to slow my elimination down, because the food I was eating was mostly alkaline fruits and vegetables. I barely ate any fats because I did not digest them well. At that time I didn't know about soaking nuts and seeds to make them more digestible. Also my body needed to be infused with enzymes, vitamins and minerals from my poor eating habits. Now I can handle fats much better. I believe had I just eaten some cooked foods I could have stopped that flu within the first week or two. That would have been preferable to such a fast detox. I was sick for 6 weeks and it took me longer than that to get my strength back. Eventually I got to the point where I was still feeling hungry all the time and I didn't have enough energy and so I figured the raw diet was quite good but that my body could not handle it. I was 100% raw for about 3 months and finally gave it up. Eventually I learned about eating raw and soaked oat groats. I blended them with bananas. I also added lots of Spirulina. Sometimes I would blend sunflower seeds with banana. So I tried again to go 100% raw. I did fine for about 2.5 months. Then I had a vacation coming up. I knew I wouldn't be able to handle travel and sticking 100% raw. The reason for this was because I needed my blender for just about every meal. This didn't seem practical that I should need a blender for every meal. So I eventually gave up again. Also blending oat groats with bananas was always producing loose stools for me. I eventually developed these red rashes on my face near my nose. Somehow I believe I got those because of eating so much Spirulina. I ate loads of spirulina for at least 2 years. It also produced in me orange hands as if I were drinking a lot of carrot juice. This happened because of the high levels of beta carotene in spirulina. Those red spots are gone now. It took about a year of going 100% raw and no spirulina. I learned that spirulina wasn't good because it had B12 analogues that could block the absorption of real B12 in my body. Eventually I attended some talks from Dr. Graham that corrected all of my misinformation. Keep in mind that I had attended lectures by most of the worlds top raw foodists before this. They all came to NY City to lecture. But I still couldn't figure out how to do it. I even attended lectures a year before by Dr. Graham. I was open to new ideas, I just wasn't able to put them into practice for the long term. The stuff that Dr. Graham covered at these two lectures corrected all of my false ideas about the raw diet. The key thing I learned was that I wasn't eating enough fruit. That is why I was weak. Yet I thought I was eating a lot of fruit. But when I analyzed the calorie content in what I was eating, I realized I wasn't eating enough. Then I learned all about other Raw Food and Vegetarian myths at the next lecture. I learned that bacteria produces B12 so I didn't have to worry too much about that. And I could supplement B12 if I ever did start showing deficiencies. I learned that there are many more meat eaters who suffer B12 deficiency than vegetarians. So eating meat wasn't necessarily the answer. A week after those lectures I went with my friend and 100% raw foodist Joel Brody to Canada. The night before I had my last Thai Food meal and I planned to at least go 100% raw for two months and see how I could do it. Having him on the trip was really helpful. He brought lots of the organic fruit and vegetables. I imbibed how to do the diet in his presence. A great point he said was that if I was craving cooked food I should just eat more raw food. That took care of the cravings pretty well. I soon realized that at least 50% of the entertainment value of my vacations, was going out to all the restaurants. This was especially true as we were taking a tour of downtown Toronto and going through Chinatown. I was constantly thinking of all the restaurants I'd like to be eating in. This really made my cravings go up. In addition, I was constantly hungry. Joel told me that in the first year of going raw he really ate a lot. Now he eats much less and he gained back the weight he lost so he doesn't look skinny. I had to eat a lot of food since I was just starting to go 100% raw. Later in the trip I learned to focus my mind on all the benefits of the raw diet. I stopped myself from thinking about the fact that I could never eat in a cooked food restaurant again. (At least the cooked foods therein.) I also told myself that I could eat cooked food again after two months, if I really wanted to. This psychological trick allowed me to overcome my initial cravings. Not thinking about what I was missing, tremendously reduced my cravings. Later I found out that most of the cravings were exacerbated by my thinking and not any actual craving. If you focus on the benefits of the raw diet the cravings for cooked foods goes away. Much later on, I learned to start preparing raw food dishes that were so tasty that I didn't have cravings for cooked food anymore. The reason being is I knew I could easily satisfy my cravings through delicious raw foods. I would say that if you can learn to prepare just three tasty raw food dishes, your transition to eating 100% raw foods will be easy. So I hope this was helpful to some of you. Going 100% raw is easy if you know how to do it right. Most people I've found had a hard time doing it without support. I had Joel to watch over me and help me through the initial stages. He told me the cold sores in my mouth were normal and that they were detoxification. The first week I had these sores in my mouth and I kept on biting myself. But they were gone in a week. If Joel weren't there I might have stopped my experiment right away because I was afraid that eating all that fruit was the problem and not that it was a simple detoxification. I talk to Joel all the time. The more you hang around 100% raw foodists the more it rubs off on you. Keep in mind though that you have to be careful. Sometimes you can be doing something wrong and it isn't always detoxification. To Your Radiant Health, Roger Haeske Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach, Roger Haeske, the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn how to go 100% RAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 I, too have been struggling with raw foods. I find it boring and I was always hungry. I know that I should eat this way, but it is very hard to eat anyother way. I love food and I am a very good " cook " . But I have not so far found any recipes that I have liked in this raw food gender. I started with Ann Wigmore books, but I have aboout 8- 10 books on the subject now. I really need to find something that will motivate me once and for all. I have health problems and lots of allergies that I would like to improve. HELP!!!! Right now I have sore and a rash in my mouth from eating crackers and cheese. It happened last night when I ate granola and yogurt. So I am giving them up for now. Please share with me anything that will help me to stick to this way of life. Thank you in advance. Veronica--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 Have you tried Rhio's recipe book, " Hooked on Raw " ? I think it's wonderful.Romina " ronis19462000 <bigsaver2 " <bigsaver2 wrote:I, too have been struggling with raw foods. I find it boring and I was always hungry. I know that I should eat this way, but it is very hard to eat anyother way. I love food and I am a very good " cook " . But I have not so far found any recipes that I have liked in this raw food gender. I started with Ann Wigmore books, but I have aboout 8- 10 books on the subject now. I really need to find something that will motivate me once and for all. I have health problems and lots of allergies that I would like to improve. HELP!!!! Right now I have sore and a rash in my mouth from eating crackers and cheese. It happened last night when I ate granola and yogurt. So I am giving them up for now. Please share with me anything that will help me to stick to this way of life. Thank you in advance. Veronica--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Dear Veronica, congratulations with your braveness to dive into the Raw Life! Yes, it might seem hard in the beginning. BUT there is a lot of Joy waiting! I really love to prepare food too, even after finding out that eating simple meals is the best way to nuture my body. To succeed with this diet is mostly about information and your own intuition. I would like to recommend some books to you which helped me a lot on my way into the raw. Victoria Boutenko's " 12 steps to raw foods. How to overcome your addiction to cooked food " is really worth reading and acting upon. There is a bunch of delicious recipes in the end to smoothen the transistion from cooked to raw. If you like her recipes you will surely love the book from her kids " Eating without heating " . A wonderful one! If you are looking for a more animated book and funny gourmet recipes (combo-abombos :-) I can recommend Juliano's " RAW the uncook book " !!! For straight forward info on the raw diet read the new book from Frederic Patenaude " Raw Secrets " and any article from Dr. Graham and Roz Gruben. Otherwise would it be a good idea to browse through the archive of our group for every topic you are concerned about. There is soooo much wisdom accumulated in our network by now, that it should be easy to filter the information you are looking for and which helps you the most in your present prosess! Good luck and enjoy your journey!!! Remember, YOU are the ONE (it sounds much more powerful when you say it to your self - every moment you feel weak or STRONG :-) Namasté René :-) rawfood , " ronis19462000 <bigsaver2@a...> " <bigsaver2@a...> wrote: > I, too have been struggling with raw foods. I find it boring and I > was always hungry. I know that I should eat this way, but it is very > hard to eat anyother way. I love food and I am a very good " cook " . > But I have not so far found any recipes that I have liked in this raw > food gender. I started with Ann Wigmore books, but I have aboout 8- > 10 books on the subject now. I really need to find something that > will motivate me once and for all. I have health problems and lots > of allergies that I would like to improve. HELP!!!! Right now I > have sore and a rash in my mouth from eating crackers and cheese. It > happened last night when I ate granola and yogurt. So I am giving > them up for now. Please share with me anything that will help me to > stick to this way of life. Thank you in advance. > Veronica--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 -Greetings, The two most allergic foods are wheat and dairy. You might want to try to stay away from them for awhile and see what happens. You may find that the more raw foods you eat, you won't have as many allergies to foods. You might want to try some alfalfa or nettle extracts for awhile and see if that also helps. Marlene -- In rawfood , " eagle_drum <rene_archner@h...> " <rene_archner@h...> wrote: > Dear Veronica, > congratulations with your braveness to dive into the Raw Life! > Yes, it might seem hard in the beginning. BUT there is a lot of Joy > waiting! > I really love to prepare food too, even after finding out that eating > simple meals is the best way to nuture my body. > To succeed with this diet is mostly about information and your own > intuition. > I would like to recommend some books to you which helped me a lot on > my way into the raw. > Victoria Boutenko's " 12 steps to raw foods. How to overcome your > addiction to cooked food " is really worth reading and acting upon. > There is a bunch of delicious recipes in the end to smoothen the > transistion from cooked to raw. > If you like her recipes you will surely love the book from her > kids " Eating without heating " . A wonderful one! > If you are looking for a more animated book and funny gourmet recipes > (combo-abombos :-) I can recommend Juliano's " RAW the uncook book " !!! > For straight forward info on the raw diet read the new book from > Frederic Patenaude " Raw Secrets " and any article from Dr. Graham and > Roz Gruben. > Otherwise would it be a good idea to browse through the archive of > our group for every topic you are concerned about. There is soooo > much wisdom accumulated in our network by now, that it should be easy > to filter the information you are looking for and which helps you the > most in your present prosess! > Good luck and enjoy your journey!!! > Remember, YOU are the ONE (it sounds much more powerful when you say > it to your self - every moment you feel weak or STRONG :-) > Namasté > René > :-) > rawfood , " ronis19462000 <bigsaver2@a...> " > <bigsaver2@a...> wrote: > > I, too have been struggling with raw foods. I find it boring and I > > was always hungry. I know that I should eat this way, but it is > very > > hard to eat anyother way. I love food and I am a very > good " cook " . > > But I have not so far found any recipes that I have liked in this > raw > > food gender. I started with Ann Wigmore books, but I have aboout 8- > > 10 books on the subject now. I really need to find something that > > will motivate me once and for all. I have health problems and lots > > of allergies that I would like to improve. HELP!!!! Right now I > > have sore and a rash in my mouth from eating crackers and cheese. > It > > happened last night when I ate granola and yogurt. So I am giving > > them up for now. Please share with me anything that will help me > to > > stick to this way of life. Thank you in advance. > > Veronica--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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