Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Okay, I know that I should be raw. I try every day to be raw. When I go off of raw my body reacts immediately. I know that it isn't good for me. But those old comfort foods call me in my time of distress. Yesterday I had a disappointment and I started to eat all of those old foods. Today, I did it again. How can I disconnect the connect between foods and feelings??? It is sooo hard to get out of my comfort zone. I really need to and I really want to. Anyone have any suggestions on how I can learn to handle this situation when it comes up again? Thanks, Veronica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Maybe you need someone in your area to actually call and get a pep talk from when you feel the urge coming on. Certainly couldn't hurt. Jess --------- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Veronica Ahh .. another rawist having trouble staying on the wagon! I feel that there is a deep psychological relationship between " food memories " and our cravings. " Comfort food " probably becomes that way because we associate, say, pizza with good times - when we're feeling down our mind might just influence us to " want " pizza - because we want it's association with happy times to break us out of our sadness. I guess the easiest way to stay raw is to have nothing but raw food around us (and lots of it at that) and to not carry around money with which we can buy ho-ho's or a slice of pizza or that bottle of soda .... When you figure out the answer let me know - right now - trying to get back into the raw-groove I've no money in my wallet and a bunch of fruit and veggies in the fridge at home as well as at work ..... Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 >Ahh .. another rawist having trouble staying on the wagon! I feel that there is a deep psychological relationship between " food memories " and our cravings. -- We eat what we like and we like what we eat. Time on the new format makes it easier. We hit plateaus along the way and don't progress for a while and then we jump forward. And then there's the 2 steps forward and one step back phenomenom. If we focus on the one step back we experience failure. If we focus on the 2 steps forward we experience success. Veronica/Steve: Think of how far you've come on this improvement in diet, and how you've progressed over time. rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Hi Veronica, I'm certainly no expert, as I am new to raw foods, and I'm new to the list too (Hello, everyone!). But perhaps I can help. I've been considering going raw for a couple years, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I have been vegan for a year, so that was good preparation. The thing that helped me finally make the jump was a book called " 12 Steps to Raw " by Victoria Butenko. She says some people are actually addicted to cooked food. Based on the Alcoholics Anonymous program, she has devised 12 steps to help people stay raw. I highly recommend it!!! She gave me the courage to try! Now weather the 12 Steps will work for me remains to be seen . Leslie (4th day 100% raw WooHoo!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Hi Steve, Thanks for the info, but I have another problem here. My husband loves cooked food. And who has to cook it for him??? ME!!! Even if he does cook it for himself--there is that smell!!! I don't have to worry about buying something when I am away from home. I don't usually have a problem then unless I have gone too long between meals. I find that I have to very careful not to get tooo hungry. I have lots of fresh fruits and veggies at home all the time. But my husband has his cooked food here too. I have my biggest weakness in cheese. It has been the hardest thing to give up. And next to that would be ice cream. Anyone found a good subsitute for either of these?? Again thanks Steve for you help. Veronica -- In rawfood , " Steve <anagram_412> " <anagram_412> wrote: > Veronica > > Ahh .. another rawist having trouble staying on the wagon! I feel > that there is a deep psychological relationship between " food > memories " and our cravings. " Comfort food " probably becomes that way > because we associate, say, pizza with good times - when we're feeling > down our mind might just influence us to " want " pizza - because we > want it's association with happy times to break us out of our sadness. > I guess the easiest way to stay raw is to have nothing but raw food > around us (and lots of it at that) and to not carry around money with > which we can buy ho-ho's or a slice of pizza or that bottle of soda .... > When you figure out the answer let me know - right now - trying to get > back into the raw-groove I've no money in my wallet and a bunch of > fruit and veggies in the fridge at home as well as at work ..... > > Cheers > > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Thanks Jesse for the advice, but I don't know anyone here that is raw. I need to find a sponsor like in AA. Veronica -- In rawfood , studio53 <studio53@o...> wrote: > Maybe you need someone in your area to actually call and get a pep talk from > when you feel the urge coming on. Certainly couldn't hurt. > > Jess > -- ------- > Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 > 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, ronis19462000 wrote: > Hi Steve, > Thanks for the info, but I have another problem here. My husband > loves cooked food. And who has to cook it for him??? ME!!! Ah, but you don't HAVE to cook it for him! ice cream substitute: peel bananas, cut in two, place in zip lock backs in the freezer, at least for a day. Then either run through a juicer with the blank plate, or put in a blender, food processor, or vita mix. For some fun, add a little other stuff too: pine nuts, walnuts, strawberries, blueberries, maybe a little water if the blender gives you trouble. Go to the trouble of finding good ripe bananas. If you do, it's better than ice cream! Even if > he does cook it for himself--there is that smell!!! I don't have to > worry about buying something when I am away from home. I don't > usually have a problem then unless I have gone too long between > meals. I find that I have to very careful not to get tooo hungry. I > have lots of fresh fruits and veggies at home all the time. But my > husband has his cooked food here too. I have my biggest weakness in > cheese. It has been the hardest thing to give up. And next to that > would be ice cream. Anyone found a good subsitute for either of > these?? > > Again thanks Steve for you help. > Veronica > -- In rawfood , " Steve <anagram_412> " > <anagram_412> wrote: > > Veronica > > > > Ahh .. another rawist having trouble staying on the wagon! I feel > > that there is a deep psychological relationship between " food > > memories " and our cravings. " Comfort food " probably becomes that > way > > because we associate, say, pizza with good times - when we're > feeling > > down our mind might just influence us to " want " pizza - because we > > want it's association with happy times to break us out of our > sadness. > > I guess the easiest way to stay raw is to have nothing but raw food > > around us (and lots of it at that) and to not carry around money > with > > which we can buy ho-ho's or a slice of pizza or that bottle of > soda .... > > When you figure out the answer let me know - right now - trying to > get > > back into the raw-groove I've no money in my wallet and a bunch of > > fruit and veggies in the fridge at home as well as at work ..... > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 What a gggrreat idea!!! A raw-food sponsor! Could be like AA but with a lighter overtone similar to Weightwatchers, where you just check in every so often when you need moral support and more nutritional information. I've found that when I start straying sometimes what I'll do is read more about what it is I'm trying to do. It's a pep talk to myself. Good luck with it.. Regards, Jess --------- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - " ronis19462000 " <bigsaver2 <rawfood > Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:53 PM Re: [Raw Food] Trouble Staying Raw > > Thanks Jesse for the advice, but I don't know anyone here that is > raw. I need to find a sponsor like in AA. > Veronica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 probably obvious, but I meant bags, not " backs " On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Margie Roswell wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, ronis19462000 wrote: > > > Hi Steve, > > Thanks for the info, but I have another problem here. My husband > > loves cooked food. And who has to cook it for him??? ME!!! > > Ah, but you don't HAVE to cook it for him! > > ice cream substitute: peel bananas, cut in two, place in zip lock backs in > the freezer, at least for a day. Then either run through a juicer with the > blank plate, or put in a blender, food processor, or vita mix. > > For some fun, add a little other stuff too: pine nuts, walnuts, > strawberries, blueberries, maybe a little water if the blender gives you > trouble. > > Go to the trouble of finding good ripe bananas. If you do, it's better > than ice cream! > > > > > Even if > > he does cook it for himself--there is that smell!!! I don't have to > > worry about buying something when I am away from home. I don't > > usually have a problem then unless I have gone too long between > > meals. I find that I have to very careful not to get tooo hungry. I > > have lots of fresh fruits and veggies at home all the time. But my > > husband has his cooked food here too. I have my biggest weakness in > > cheese. It has been the hardest thing to give up. And next to that > > would be ice cream. Anyone found a good subsitute for either of > > these?? > > > > Again thanks Steve for you help. > > Veronica > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In rawfood , " Steve <anagram_412> " > > <anagram_412> wrote: > > > Veronica > > > > > > Ahh .. another rawist having trouble staying on the wagon! I feel > > > that there is a deep psychological relationship between " food > > > memories " and our cravings. " Comfort food " probably becomes that > > way > > > because we associate, say, pizza with good times - when we're > > feeling > > > down our mind might just influence us to " want " pizza - because we > > > want it's association with happy times to break us out of our > > sadness. > > > I guess the easiest way to stay raw is to have nothing but raw food > > > around us (and lots of it at that) and to not carry around money > > with > > > which we can buy ho-ho's or a slice of pizza or that bottle of > > soda .... > > > When you figure out the answer let me know - right now - trying to > > get > > > back into the raw-groove I've no money in my wallet and a bunch of > > > fruit and veggies in the fridge at home as well as at work ..... > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 ] > Thanks for the info, but I have another problem here. My husband > loves cooked food. And who has to cook it for him??? ME!!! Hi Veronica, I cook all the family meals here to, it is so nice being indespensible. My hubby can't cook at all, although I did teach him how to make 2 minute noodles and to fry an egg when I went into hospital to have a baby... he ended up buying takeaways and bringing the food and kids to the maternity ward for dinner each night lol! When I first started telling him about raw food he thought I had gone nuts. He is a martial artist and I showed him some raw food guy pics and how toned they were and he was like, yeah right 20 years of steroids before 20 years raw! But now here we are 3 months down the track. Although I have been messing up this past week I was around 80% raw till then. The first month I was 65% and had a continuous headache. My children and hubby are eating more salads and fruit and the other day he told me, 'you know how you say you feel horrible after cooked food, today I felt like that after (cooked) diner.' He has decided to go raw too! Can we afford more veges! as for my kids they make one raw fruit pie or cake a week and it is a family treat. So what I am saying is, give it time, when he sees the benefits he may go raw too! Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 Hi Guys! I saw that heading " Trouble Staying Raw " and I know what you mean. There many obstacles to living the raw-food lifestyle. I know, I've been doing this for 16 years, and I think I've encountered just about every single one; both internally and externally. Though, I would say the least of your problems is the food. But, frequently, this is where we think our obsessions lie. However, our obsession isn't really with food. That's what we don't seem to understand. And, henceforth, we blame food for being " addictive. " When, in fact, food is not addictive at all. What we call " addiction " is merely a symptom/ reflection of what's going on in our minds. Trying to do something healthy, such as eat a raw-food diet, brings those unresolved internal (emotional) issues to the fore. Once people tackle those issues (such as how repressed/disowned fear, anger, guilt, shame, etc.) that they often allow (unwittingly) to run their lives, they begin to realize just how easy it is to live the raw life; and how they have sabotaged themselves to the extent they refuse to examine their internal world. Problems with staying on a raw-food diet are not problems with food, per se, but really problems existing within yourself. And your unresolved inner conflicts. Learn the truth about yourself, and you will begin to be set free! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hi Pixie, First off, we all love you very much. I feel your frustration. I find it difficult being with a partner who is ALSO raw, simply because we constantly test and tease each other with " do you think we should go get Indian tonight? " , wanting the other person to break the rules so that we feel justified in doing it ourselves. Anyway, what I'm saying is it must be extremely difficult with an entire family that is not raw, and especially with a person who brings home beer and pizza frequently...eww yuck! The truth is this Pixie: It takes more courage, more than almost anything else we encounter in life, to begin to think critically of the food you eat and to experiment with eating a non-toxic and overly-stimulating diet. Most people can NOT EVEN ATTEMPT this, because the psychological addiction to the chemical, manufactured and engineered stimulation of industrial-process (waste) food, is so strong, and they so dependent on it, it is literally frightening. And some people simply have been so brain-washed by all the food commercials on tv, you just can't even ever get through. To be trying to go raw at all shows that you are a superbly courageous person, that you are a natural leader, and that your critical thinking skills are strong and well developed. Congratulations! Eating food is a very social act, especially within a family, and ESPECIALLY when you eat the SAME food together. You will need to understand that, and use it to change your inner emotions to consider that YOU can eat raw all on your own and others do not have to join you. Offer your family healthy food, but don't take it personally when they refuse. This is the most difficult part and will be with you a long time, because the social need for eating the SAME food together with your loved ones is a deep instinctual desire. I don't know what else to say, but realize that your family is essentially addicted to drugs, and it will take a long time to get them off, if you ever do it at all - if they're not ready for the change, that is. If they are mentally ready, obviously cooperation will be great! Certainly, willpower has a lot to do with it, but also confidence in your decision making abilities and even your confidence and love for yourself. That you want to go raw shows you have these things in abundance already, they will just become more and more developed and stronger as you continue. Your raw diet you listed at the end sounds just fine. As you go for longer stretches with raw you will naturally experiment with different foods. This doesn't happen overnight and it can take literally years to figure out a satisfying menu plan for yourself, given the restrictions of what's available in your area. But as I said, what you listed sounds just fine, very great actually. Some people might recommend less fat intake (from the almond milk and avocado) though, but this is a building up process. No one here, and you yourself, shouldn't expect you to have a perfect raw food diet right away. It takes time. Take care and love yourself Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hi again Pixie, I re-read your post, and it sounds like you HAVE made some changes to your hubby's diet. That is great isn't it! I am not sure if you two talk about food together, or if he is open to thinking critically about diet. If this is something you can discuss together and even read about together, that would be great! Reading is definitely a part of becoming raw, in my personal opinion. There are lots of good books out there, and you really should read a range of them to get an " average feel " for what the raw diet is about. Reading together with your mate or kids is much more socially connecting than eating together too, for me anyway! If you can't or don't connect together in this way, than simply continue, slowly but surely, adding more raw food into everyones diet with the meals you prepare for them. DON'T do it all at once, or else they will notice and complain! Do it slowly, and do it reasonably. You might be able to do it faster with your kids, because ultimately you should have more control over them (or is it the hubby you're supposed to have more control over??). I ate 50-50 raw/cooked for the first 8 months or so for my transition, and by cooked I mean not just cooked veggies, but all cooked cr*p food. Slowly but surely I was finding myself eating more and more raw and less and less junk, as my body cleansed the addictions. Your hubby might like avocado sandwiches, and well, your kids too! You do use bread, which is not raw, but MANY raw foodists tolerate whole grain toasted bread in the diet. This won't be a staple but it is delicious! Remember, you're a brilliant person for going raw in the first place! Anyone with the capacity to think critically of their food must represent within the top 5% of the worlds IQ. Use your brains to to have fun and sneak the raw food into their diets without their knowing, if talking directly about it doesn't work at first. Ask Erica from School of Rawk about raw recipes! She knows everything there is to know about making satisfying raw meals that are easy!! She's a great resource, don't pass it by! Cheers Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 On Monday 22 October 2007, illuminedpixie wrote: > Is this just about willpower? Has anyone else had this > struggle or had to go through this while cooking seperate > meals for other people? Even the tiniest nugget of wisdom > would be appreciated. It's ok to fail! Now is a new moment, so just start again. Let the past be dead, it's gone. -- the kneeling fool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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