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Hi all,

 

This looks like a great list! I am new to the list and

have been on a raw diet for over 2 months now. I was very

sick with Endometriosis for most of my life, which after

2 surgeries finally the pain was taken away but left my

body very sick. I have Leaky gut, malabsorption and had

major IBS.

 

Everything I ate except raw was making me feel like I had

food poisoning and I dropped 70 lbs within a couple of months.

I felt like I was dying. One night I found David Klein's website

on the treatment of Crohns and Colitis and bought his book and set

up consultations and at that point I started the raw diet.

 

My body accepted the foods which is mostly fruits and some veggies

in the evening and I finally found something I could handle and eat.

I seriously thought I was dying from starvation, IBS etc...

 

I'm only 84 lbs right now but am hoping once I'm cleaned out the

raw foods will bring my body back to a state of health where it will

put some weight back on.

 

I have had a lot of bad days but have seen some good ones recently

that gives me hope this is the diet for me. My hands are covered in

a very itchy and red rash that turns into peeling and cracks and

dryness and nothing has helped this as far as creams and ointments. I

refuse to put any topical steroids on as I know they are only harmful.

I hope in time this symptom goes away.

 

I have a question regarding gassiness. Since going raw I've just

had incredible gas everyday. I properly combine my foods now but

am wondering will this gas ever go away or is normal on a raw food

diet?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. My diet consists mostly of

fruits which vary depending what I have and the store has but lots

of Mango's, Oranges, some banana's, apples and I make sure not to

combine the acidic with the sweet etc...

 

In the evening I'm really wanting salads and less sweet foods.

I can't tolerate any nuts or seeds even raw and soaked but lately

have done fine with Avocado's. Hoping to one day be able to digest

soaked nuts and seeds as I do enjoy having something to snack on.

 

I will snack on the Just Veggies freeze dried fruits and veggies and

know that they are more than likely too harsh on the system but

sometimes you feel you just need a dry type of snack.

 

If anyone knows more about gas and raw foods please email me at:

 

Karean

 

I would love to get rid of this problem, it can be painful but mostly

uncomfortable and annoying.

 

I look forward to the list and will go through the archives

for all the valuable advice there must be.

 

In good health!

 

Karean

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Karen,

 

 

Gas comes from chemistry which we all know. Certainly the more you mix

foods up the more chemistry there is likely to be. The gas also comes

more from the acidic side of the diet. Thus the hint seems to be stay

away from the more acidic fruit and increase the vegetables whilst

keeping them well separated, not mixing foods and overall eating less.

That is only a hint. If it does not work, just ignore it.

 

I think it fair to say that raw foof eating does not produce an abnormal

amount of gas, which leads me to think that there may well be other

contributory causes. Clearly, you have had an unusual and bad passage

with eating. It takes time to get straight after years of getting it

wrong. I fear you may need competent medical advice rather than the

generality of forum opinion.

 

 

Peter

 

 

karean88 [karean]

09 March 2003 06:06

rawfood

[Raw Food] New to the list, Raw for over 2 months now

 

 

Hi all,

 

This looks like a great list! I am new to the list and

have been on a raw diet for over 2 months now. I was very

sick with Endometriosis for most of my life, which after

2 surgeries finally the pain was taken away but left my

body very sick. I have Leaky gut, malabsorption and had

major IBS.

 

Everything I ate except raw was making me feel like I had

food poisoning and I dropped 70 lbs within a couple of months.

I felt like I was dying. One night I found David Klein's website

on the treatment of Crohns and Colitis and bought his book and set

up consultations and at that point I started the raw diet.

 

My body accepted the foods which is mostly fruits and some veggies

in the evening and I finally found something I could handle and eat.

I seriously thought I was dying from starvation, IBS etc...

 

I'm only 84 lbs right now but am hoping once I'm cleaned out the

raw foods will bring my body back to a state of health where it will

put some weight back on.

 

I have had a lot of bad days but have seen some good ones recently

that gives me hope this is the diet for me. My hands are covered in

a very itchy and red rash that turns into peeling and cracks and

dryness and nothing has helped this as far as creams and ointments. I

refuse to put any topical steroids on as I know they are only harmful.

I hope in time this symptom goes away.

 

I have a question regarding gassiness. Since going raw I've just

had incredible gas everyday. I properly combine my foods now but

am wondering will this gas ever go away or is normal on a raw food

diet?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. My diet consists mostly of

fruits which vary depending what I have and the store has but lots

of Mango's, Oranges, some banana's, apples and I make sure not to

combine the acidic with the sweet etc...

 

In the evening I'm really wanting salads and less sweet foods.

I can't tolerate any nuts or seeds even raw and soaked but lately

have done fine with Avocado's. Hoping to one day be able to digest

soaked nuts and seeds as I do enjoy having something to snack on.

 

I will snack on the Just Veggies freeze dried fruits and veggies and

know that they are more than likely too harsh on the system but

sometimes you feel you just need a dry type of snack.

 

If anyone knows more about gas and raw foods please email me at:

 

Karean

 

I would love to get rid of this problem, it can be painful but mostly

uncomfortable and annoying.

 

I look forward to the list and will go through the archives

for all the valuable advice there must be.

 

In good health!

 

Karean

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Peter I am consulting with Dr. Tim Trader. He

was very vague about the gas saying it's part of the cleansing

effect and it will take time.

 

I know I'm in for a long recovery but I had considerably

better days the last week and have even gotten my

appetite back.

 

Interesting that the gas it more from the acidic side. I have

been eating oranges like they have been going out of style.

I will back down on the acid fruits.

 

Thank you for the explanation I grealty appreciate your

time and knowledge.

 

In good health,

 

Karean

 

rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...>

wrote:

> Karen,

>

>

> Gas comes from chemistry which we all know. Certainly the more you

mix

> foods up the more chemistry there is likely to be. The gas also

comes

> more from the acidic side of the diet. Thus the hint seems to be

stay

> away from the more acidic fruit and increase the vegetables whilst

> keeping them well separated, not mixing foods and overall eating

less.

> That is only a hint. If it does not work, just ignore it.

>

> I think it fair to say that raw foof eating does not produce an

abnormal

> amount of gas, which leads me to think that there may well be other

> contributory causes. Clearly, you have had an unusual and bad

passage

> with eating. It takes time to get straight after years of getting

it

> wrong. I fear you may need competent medical advice rather than the

> generality of forum opinion.

>

>

> Peter

>

>

> karean88 [karean@w...]

> 09 March 2003 06:06

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] New to the list, Raw for over 2 months now

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> This looks like a great list! I am new to the list and

> have been on a raw diet for over 2 months now. I was very

> sick with Endometriosis for most of my life, which after

> 2 surgeries finally the pain was taken away but left my

> body very sick. I have Leaky gut, malabsorption and had

> major IBS.

>

> Everything I ate except raw was making me feel like I had

> food poisoning and I dropped 70 lbs within a couple of months.

> I felt like I was dying. One night I found David Klein's website

> on the treatment of Crohns and Colitis and bought his book and set

> up consultations and at that point I started the raw diet.

>

> My body accepted the foods which is mostly fruits and some veggies

> in the evening and I finally found something I could handle and eat.

> I seriously thought I was dying from starvation, IBS etc...

>

> I'm only 84 lbs right now but am hoping once I'm cleaned out the

> raw foods will bring my body back to a state of health where it will

> put some weight back on.

>

> I have had a lot of bad days but have seen some good ones recently

> that gives me hope this is the diet for me. My hands are covered in

> a very itchy and red rash that turns into peeling and cracks and

> dryness and nothing has helped this as far as creams and ointments.

I

> refuse to put any topical steroids on as I know they are only

harmful.

> I hope in time this symptom goes away.

>

> I have a question regarding gassiness. Since going raw I've just

> had incredible gas everyday. I properly combine my foods now but

> am wondering will this gas ever go away or is normal on a raw food

> diet?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated. My diet consists mostly of

> fruits which vary depending what I have and the store has but lots

> of Mango's, Oranges, some banana's, apples and I make sure not to

> combine the acidic with the sweet etc...

>

> In the evening I'm really wanting salads and less sweet foods.

> I can't tolerate any nuts or seeds even raw and soaked but lately

> have done fine with Avocado's. Hoping to one day be able to digest

> soaked nuts and seeds as I do enjoy having something to snack on.

>

> I will snack on the Just Veggies freeze dried fruits and veggies and

> know that they are more than likely too harsh on the system but

> sometimes you feel you just need a dry type of snack.

>

> If anyone knows more about gas and raw foods please email me at:

>

> Karean@w...

>

> I would love to get rid of this problem, it can be painful but

mostly

> uncomfortable and annoying.

>

> I look forward to the list and will go through the archives

> for all the valuable advice there must be.

>

> In good health!

>

> Karean

>

>

>

>

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I had the same problem and cut out the bananas. The gas went away.

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" karean88 " <karean

<rawfood >

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:26 AM

Re: [Raw Food] New to the list, Raw for over 2 months now

 

 

>

>

> Thank you Peter I am consulting with Dr. Tim Trader. He

> was very vague about the gas saying it's part of the cleansing

> effect and it will take time.

<snipe>

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Karean,

 

I read through the rather long article linked to Interesting reading

below and saw a reference to your problems with drjdog. It seems you

have a complex history which is explained in some detail. Time is what

you need and the conviction that you will conquer the problem. Then it

will certainly happen.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

karean88 [karean]

11 March 2003 06:26

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] New to the list, Raw for over 2 months now

 

 

 

Thank you Peter I am consulting with Dr. Tim Trader. He

was very vague about the gas saying it's part of the cleansing

effect and it will take time.

 

I know I'm in for a long recovery but I had considerably

better days the last week and have even gotten my

appetite back.

 

Interesting that the gas it more from the acidic side. I have

been eating oranges like they have been going out of style.

I will back down on the acid fruits.

 

Thank you for the explanation I grealty appreciate your

time and knowledge.

 

In good health,

 

Karean

 

rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...>

wrote:

> Karen,

>

>

> Gas comes from chemistry which we all know. Certainly the more you

mix

> foods up the more chemistry there is likely to be. The gas also

comes

> more from the acidic side of the diet. Thus the hint seems to be

stay

> away from the more acidic fruit and increase the vegetables whilst

> keeping them well separated, not mixing foods and overall eating

less.

> That is only a hint. If it does not work, just ignore it.

>

> I think it fair to say that raw foof eating does not produce an

abnormal

> amount of gas, which leads me to think that there may well be other

> contributory causes. Clearly, you have had an unusual and bad

passage

> with eating. It takes time to get straight after years of getting

it

> wrong. I fear you may need competent medical advice rather than the

> generality of forum opinion.

>

>

> Peter

>

>

> karean88 [karean@w...]

> 09 March 2003 06:06

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] New to the list, Raw for over 2 months now

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> This looks like a great list! I am new to the list and

> have been on a raw diet for over 2 months now. I was very

> sick with Endometriosis for most of my life, which after

> 2 surgeries finally the pain was taken away but left my

> body very sick. I have Leaky gut, malabsorption and had

> major IBS.

>

> Everything I ate except raw was making me feel like I had

> food poisoning and I dropped 70 lbs within a couple of months.

> I felt like I was dying. One night I found David Klein's website

> on the treatment of Crohns and Colitis and bought his book and set

> up consultations and at that point I started the raw diet.

>

> My body accepted the foods which is mostly fruits and some veggies

> in the evening and I finally found something I could handle and eat.

> I seriously thought I was dying from starvation, IBS etc...

>

> I'm only 84 lbs right now but am hoping once I'm cleaned out the

> raw foods will bring my body back to a state of health where it will

> put some weight back on.

>

> I have had a lot of bad days but have seen some good ones recently

> that gives me hope this is the diet for me. My hands are covered in

> a very itchy and red rash that turns into peeling and cracks and

> dryness and nothing has helped this as far as creams and ointments.

I

> refuse to put any topical steroids on as I know they are only

harmful.

> I hope in time this symptom goes away.

>

> I have a question regarding gassiness. Since going raw I've just

> had incredible gas everyday. I properly combine my foods now but

> am wondering will this gas ever go away or is normal on a raw food

> diet?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated. My diet consists mostly of

> fruits which vary depending what I have and the store has but lots

> of Mango's, Oranges, some banana's, apples and I make sure not to

> combine the acidic with the sweet etc...

>

> In the evening I'm really wanting salads and less sweet foods.

> I can't tolerate any nuts or seeds even raw and soaked but lately

> have done fine with Avocado's. Hoping to one day be able to digest

> soaked nuts and seeds as I do enjoy having something to snack on.

>

> I will snack on the Just Veggies freeze dried fruits and veggies and

> know that they are more than likely too harsh on the system but

> sometimes you feel you just need a dry type of snack.

>

> If anyone knows more about gas and raw foods please email me at:

>

> Karean@w...

>

> I would love to get rid of this problem, it can be painful but

mostly

> uncomfortable and annoying.

>

> I look forward to the list and will go through the archives

> for all the valuable advice there must be.

>

> In good health!

>

> Karean

>

>

>

>

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I'm not keen on Banana's so I only have one a day and

it's hidden in a smoothie to sweeten it up.

 

What else do you eat?

 

I'm wondering if anyone on the list is sick and doing

this type of diet?

 

I would love to know what your weekly food diary was

that keeps you feeling well?

 

I was feeling so much better the last few days and then

today I had another bout of re-current symptoms.

 

I did eat the wrong foods for my stomach though as I just

thought I may be able to handle it since I was feeling better.

I had a cabbage/carrot slaw with a very thin blanched raw almond and

water dressing but I did add Organic mexican blend spice to it and a

squeeze of lemon and orange for flavour too.

 

I have also been snacking on the freeze dried just veggies corn and

I'm afraid all that just did me in as well as I had been eating

7 or more oranges a day.

 

It's really tough staying on the same fruits day in and day out but

I know because of my ill health I have no choice. I think today

gave me another reality check.

 

Anyway if there are other's on the list that suffer from IBS or GI

problems that are following a diet structure that is working well I'd

really appreciate hearing your weekly dietary diary.

 

You can email me privately at: karean

 

Thank you all for the wonderful advice I have gotten thus far!

I truly appreciate this list thank you to the moderator and to

everyone who has responded to me.

 

In much appreciation,

 

Karean

 

rawfood , studio53 <studio53@o...> wrote:

> I had the same problem and cut out the bananas. The gas went away.

> --

-------

> Jesse Parris -

> " karean88 " <karean@w...>

> <rawfood >

> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:26 AM

> Re: [Raw Food] New to the list, Raw for over 2 months now

>

>

> >

> >

> > Thank you Peter I am consulting with Dr. Tim Trader. He

> > was very vague about the gas saying it's part of the cleansing

> > effect and it will take time.

> <snipe>

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