Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 All, Seems I have a sufficient rise in insulin for my medic to suggest I move over to eating roots instead of fruit with a lot of sugar. (This medic says sugar is sugar any way you look at it! :-)) Out go dates, bananas - the odd apple may be OK. Certainly I have eaten roots sparingly, largely out of the prejudice that most are hybrid, new and tend to soak up what is around them. It seems I could be back to raw potatoes, parsnips and a whole lot more. No doubt the vitamin intake will go down and the minerals up. Anyone have thought on the change? After two days of this change I feel better! Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Hi Peter, I have always felt that the type of raw food diet a person is on may have something to do with the climate they are in. In a tropical climate with lush fruits it would seem one would tend more toward fruit. Heading north more leafy greens would seem in order. Heading farther north it would seem one would include more root vegetables and nuts in the diet. This also seems to fit in with the theory of not eating food from more than say 200-300 miles from where you live. Are you in a more northern climate? If not maybe you shouldn't be to surprised at having to include more vegetables. If you are in a more tropical local, well, one can only wonder. -karl : All, : : : Seems I have a sufficient rise in insulin for my medic to suggest I move : over to eating roots instead of fruit with a lot of sugar. (This medic : says sugar is sugar any way you look at it! :-)) Out go dates, bananas - : the odd apple may be OK. Certainly I have eaten roots sparingly, : largely out of the prejudice that most are hybrid, new and tend to soak : up what is around them. It seems I could be back to raw potatoes, : parsnips and a whole lot more. No doubt the vitamin intake will go down : and the minerals up. : : Anyone have thought on the change? After two days of this change I feel : better! : : Peter : : : : : : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Karl, Interesting thesis. Am at the tail end of winter in a northerly part of Europe, in Brussels. Thus you have located me. Given that citrus keep us cool in summer, your thesis should pan. I probably was eating too much fruit in an attempt to keep warm and get the carbs without eating much fat. Eating tropical fruit in the north is weird. Now that the doctor has suggested roots I feel they are fine. My English caste cult tends to shy off beef and roots. Whole small animals and plants that are grown above the ground being considered more suitable. In fact I have just been looking at Herbert M Shelton's " Basic Rules of Proper Food Combining. " . He does not like mixing things at all. I am sure he is right. If you have Anything of his on cleaning arteries, I would enjoy reading it. A prolific writer such as he could have something to say on this subject. I tried his great cure-all of fasting for it but may not have gone far enough! Peter carlo7 [carlo7] 22 March 2003 09:51 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Diet shift Hi Peter, I have always felt that the type of raw food diet a person is on may have something to do with the climate they are in. In a tropical climate with lush fruits it would seem one would tend more toward fruit. Heading north more leafy greens would seem in order. Heading farther north it would seem one would include more root vegetables and nuts in the diet. This also seems to fit in with the theory of not eating food from more than say 200-300 miles from where you live. Are you in a more northern climate? If not maybe you shouldn't be to surprised at having to include more vegetables. If you are in a more tropical local, well, one can only wonder. -karl : All, : : : Seems I have a sufficient rise in insulin for my medic to suggest I move : over to eating roots instead of fruit with a lot of sugar. (This medic : says sugar is sugar any way you look at it! :-)) Out go dates, bananas - : the odd apple may be OK. Certainly I have eaten roots sparingly, : largely out of the prejudice that most are hybrid, new and tend to soak : up what is around them. It seems I could be back to raw potatoes, : parsnips and a whole lot more. No doubt the vitamin intake will go down : and the minerals up. : : Anyone have thought on the change? After two days of this change I feel : better! : : Peter : : : : : : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Peter Gardiner [petergardiner] Saturday, March 22, 2003 3:26 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Diet shift All, Seems I have a sufficient rise in insulin for my medic to suggest I move over to eating roots instead of fruit with a lot of sugar. (This medic says sugar is sugar any way you look at it! :-)) Out go dates, bananas - the odd apple may be OK. Certainly I have eaten roots sparingly, largely out of the prejudice that most are hybrid, new and tend to soak up what is around them. It seems I could be back to raw potatoes, parsnips and a whole lot more. No doubt the vitamin intake will go down and the minerals up. Anyone have thought on the change? After two days of this change I feel better! Peter [RH] Hi Peter, You are still eating sugar anyway. Potatoes are mostly complex carbohydrates, about 86% of the calories in a potato come from sugar. So you are now eating complex instead of simple sugars. The body can only use simple sugars anyway. This means your body will break down the sugars from these roots and turn it into simple sugars. A better solution might be to do two things. One would be to eat fruit in small amounts throughout the whole day, so you limit your sugar intake at any one time. This will make the rise in blood sugar much smaller. You may find that over time you need to eat less calories and therefore less fruit, while on a raw food diet. I have had to reduce my calorie intake as well. The other thing to do is to stop eating any fatty foods for 10 to 20 days and then later keep fat intake to around 10 to 20% f your caloric consumption. The level of fat in the blood has a lot to do with how much insulin is required to handle the natural sugars in your diet. Keep another thing in mind. Even if you are fasting you will always have blood sugar. The blood sugar levels do go down but the body operates on sugar. So even if you are eating other foods they are converted to sugar anyway, for your use. This tells me that sugar is essential for us. That is also why it is natural for us to have a sweet tooth. Hope this helps, Roger Haeske Discover the 10,000 year old Simple Secret for Effortless Weight Loss, Radiant Health, Super Athletic Performance, Spiritual, Mental, Emotional Health, Success and more. Go to www.superbeing.com/awesometechnique.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Roger, Thanks, Clearly Simple sugar - fructose - is the right kind. If that comes in bananas then my medic is sadly confused. She says that with the potatoes the digestion has to work to release the sugar and the insulin does not therefore secrete. Certainly, she is intelligent and knows a thousand times more medicine than I do. I read this on Mercola today http://www.mercola.com/article/sugar/sugar_cancer.htm Frankly I have conflicting counsel. Will need to check harder. Peter Roger Haeske [roger] 22 March 2003 16:14 rawfood RE: [Raw Food] Diet shift Peter Gardiner [petergardiner] Saturday, March 22, 2003 3:26 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Diet shift All, Seems I have a sufficient rise in insulin for my medic to suggest I move over to eating roots instead of fruit with a lot of sugar. (This medic says sugar is sugar any way you look at it! :-)) Out go dates, bananas - the odd apple may be OK. Certainly I have eaten roots sparingly, largely out of the prejudice that most are hybrid, new and tend to soak up what is around them. It seems I could be back to raw potatoes, parsnips and a whole lot more. No doubt the vitamin intake will go down and the minerals up. Anyone have thought on the change? After two days of this change I feel better! Peter [RH] Hi Peter, You are still eating sugar anyway. Potatoes are mostly complex carbohydrates, about 86% of the calories in a potato come from sugar. So you are now eating complex instead of simple sugars. The body can only use simple sugars anyway. This means your body will break down the sugars from these roots and turn it into simple sugars. A better solution might be to do two things. One would be to eat fruit in small amounts throughout the whole day, so you limit your sugar intake at any one time. This will make the rise in blood sugar much smaller. You may find that over time you need to eat less calories and therefore less fruit, while on a raw food diet. I have had to reduce my calorie intake as well. The other thing to do is to stop eating any fatty foods for 10 to 20 days and then later keep fat intake to around 10 to 20% f your caloric consumption. The level of fat in the blood has a lot to do with how much insulin is required to handle the natural sugars in your diet. Keep another thing in mind. Even if you are fasting you will always have blood sugar. The blood sugar levels do go down but the body operates on sugar. So even if you are eating other foods they are converted to sugar anyway, for your use. This tells me that sugar is essential for us. That is also why it is natural for us to have a sweet tooth. Hope this helps, Roger Haeske Discover the 10,000 year old Simple Secret for Effortless Weight Loss, Radiant Health, Super Athletic Performance, Spiritual, Mental, Emotional Health, Success and more. Go to www.superbeing.com/awesometechnique.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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