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Hi Nicki,

 

I have some recommendations for you. I agree with you there is plenty of

unscientific and unsound advice out there when it comes to a raw food

diet.

 

I believe there is the standard raw food diet and then a healthy raw

food diet. Many raw foodists run into all sorts of problems because they

are getting conflicting advice.

 

I recommend the book, " Raw Secrets, " by Frederic Patenaude. He was a

disciple of David Wolfe and even worked with him. David Wolfe has said

that he personally eats and thrives on 80% of his calories from raw fat.

I don't ever think he could do very well athletically if he truly were

to maintain that high of a fat concentration.

 

Eventually Frederic discovered that eating the raw diet as per Wolfe's

recommendations was not working for him. He went back temporarily to

eating cooked food. Then he rediscovered Natural Hygiene.

 

Natural Hygiene is less popular because it seems to be more restrictive.

Yet this is the way that is closest to what we would do if we were out

in nature. It also has had extensive scientific study to back up many of

it's principles.

 

Personally, I've tried many different approaches to eating raw and I

continually fine-tune my diet for Peak Performance. Raw Secrets is a

great book along these lines because you learn about the many pitfalls

that raw foodists make. Hopefully you'll realize the truth in the book

and follow that advice.

 

I have a link to that book and the fantastic magazine " Just Eat an

Apple. " Their latest issue is tremendous. It is a must read. Almost all

the articles are super informative and taught me some new things. It is

a great issue if you want to introduce someone to the raw food diet.

It's the issue with the Blood Type Diet article. This issue is a must

read. It may blow away a lot of your old ideas and misconceptions about

the raw food diet.

 

To see more about the book and magazine just click this link.

http://www.mcssl.com/app/aftrack.asp?afid=74580

 

I also have the utmost respect for Dr. Douglas Graham and Prof. Rozalind

Gruben. They have an intense scientific background. A good book from Dr.

Graham is called " Nutrition and Athletic Performance. " Don't worry it

isn't just about sports. It's good for anyone wanting a raw diet. Seeing

them in person is even better.

 

To see Dr. Graham's books and read free articles you can go to

http://www.doctorgraham.cc

 

Prof. Gruben is coming out with an in-depth book called " Raw Nutritional

Science. " I am looking forward to that.

 

If you are afraid of eating too much fruit then I suggest you listen to

the message from Dr. Graham and Prof. Gruben. You'll also learn why to

much fat even if it is raw is very dangerous to consume.

 

Did you know that there have been experiments taking college students

and asking them to eat as much fat as they possibly can for one week and

that after that one week they all had diabetes? You would think diabetes

has to do with eating too much sugar when in fact it has much more to do

with eating too much fat.

 

The key is keeping your blood sugar within normal ranges. This is easy

to do if you don't have a lot of fat in your diet. So the healthy raw

diet is a low fat, raw food diet. Unfortunately, the average raw foodist

eats about 60% of their calories from fat, many as high as 80% of

calories.

 

From my personal experience, I have found that this doesn't work. The

worst thing to do is to mix a high fruit and high fat diet. Probably

better to eat virtually no fruit if you are going to do that. However,

there have been extensive studies on fat consumption and the conclusion

seems to be that a whole host of diseases can be traced back to a high

fat diet and not a high carbohydrate diet.

 

For more information on this, I suggest you go to this link

 

http://www.european-vegetarian.org/evu/eurocong99/audio/

 

and download talk # 39. Dr. Hans Diehl called Reversing Diabetes. You

should also listen to his talk # 11 called Reversing Heart Disease.

These are great presentations.

 

The healthiest cultures around the world all consume a high carbohydrate

diet. It's only the sickly western societies that eat so much meat and a

highly processed and refined diet. Now many countries are starting to

copy us and having terrible health because of it.

 

To Your Radiant Health, Roger Haeske

 

Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now

you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100%

Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach, Roger Haeske,

the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and

http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn

how to go 100% RAW.

 

 

 

Nicki Hendrix [pulaskiheightslist]

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:43 AM

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[Raw Food] book advice

 

hi, everyone --

 

after a lot of banging my head against the wall re: raw food, i've

gotten resounding response from my local food co-ops. ask and it

shall be given, right? i asked both of the two local veg stores that

i frequent to please get more raw stuff -- and now i get a raw class

(4/30) and raw books galore! the problem here now is that i have no

idea which books to buy. there are literally 30+ of them available to

me at the moment. i already have _Raw!_, _The Raw Gourmet_ (two

thumbs up to both) and _Raw Power_ (which i don't like very much).

 

My new options seem to be the various Sunfood and Nature's First Law

books, Nison books galore and several books whose authors i have yet

to hear of (books look great, though). my problem with the books that

i have is that quality is #1 for me. smudgy covers and bad photos i

can handle -- but bad grammar, bad recipes and questionable science i

cannot. any recommendations?

 

--nicki

 

 

 

 

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hi, everyone --

 

after a lot of banging my head against the wall re: raw food, i've

gotten resounding response from my local food co-ops. ask and it

shall be given, right? i asked both of the two local veg stores that

i frequent to please get more raw stuff -- and now i get a raw class

(4/30) and raw books galore! the problem here now is that i have no

idea which books to buy. there are literally 30+ of them available to

me at the moment. i already have _Raw!_, _The Raw Gourmet_ (two

thumbs up to both) and _Raw Power_ (which i don't like very much).

 

My new options seem to be the various Sunfood and Nature's First Law

books, Nison books galore and several books whose authors i have yet

to hear of (books look great, though). my problem with the books that

i have is that quality is #1 for me. smudgy covers and bad photos i

can handle -- but bad grammar, bad recipes and questionable science i

cannot. any recommendations?

 

--nicki

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Hi nicki,

I recommend you read anything by Herbert M Shelton or V V Vetrano. With these

authors at your side you will build a rock solid foundation for further study.

Best of Health to you,

-karl

 

: hi, everyone --

:

: after a lot of banging my head against the wall re: raw food, i've

: gotten resounding response from my local food co-ops. ask and it

: shall be given, right? i asked both of the two local veg stores that

: i frequent to please get more raw stuff -- and now i get a raw class

: (4/30) and raw books galore! the problem here now is that i have no

: idea which books to buy. there are literally 30+ of them available to

: me at the moment. i already have _Raw!_, _The Raw Gourmet_ (two

: thumbs up to both) and _Raw Power_ (which i don't like very much).

:

: My new options seem to be the various Sunfood and Nature's First Law

: books, Nison books galore and several books whose authors i have yet

: to hear of (books look great, though). my problem with the books that

: i have is that quality is #1 for me. smudgy covers and bad photos i

: can handle -- but bad grammar, bad recipes and questionable science i

: cannot. any recommendations?

:

: --nicki

:

:

:

:

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Roger,

 

I enjoyed listening to the recordings. Yesterday I was reading Mercola

on Diabetes. He advocates a low carbohydrate high fat diet. It equates

to a sort of vegetarian Atkins diet. He keeps quiet on his grass fed

beef in this context. A mess it seems to me. Then Dr Diel sings praise

to Dr Ornish who has a slot for whole grains and a load of other

trouble. It all brings me back to your suggestion of a low fat raw

diet. My rent mistake has been eating coconuts. They should be eaten

only in very small quantities I suspect.

 

Am reading on.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

Roger Haeske [roger]

16 April 2003 07:52

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RE: [Raw Food] book advice

 

 

Hi Nicki,

 

I have some recommendations for you. I agree with you there is plenty of

unscientific and unsound advice out there when it comes to a raw food

diet.

 

I believe there is the standard raw food diet and then a healthy raw

food diet. Many raw foodists run into all sorts of problems because they

are getting conflicting advice.

 

I recommend the book, " Raw Secrets, " by Frederic Patenaude. He was a

disciple of David Wolfe and even worked with him. David Wolfe has said

that he personally eats and thrives on 80% of his calories from raw fat.

I don't ever think he could do very well athletically if he truly were

to maintain that high of a fat concentration.

 

Eventually Frederic discovered that eating the raw diet as per Wolfe's

recommendations was not working for him. He went back temporarily to

eating cooked food. Then he rediscovered Natural Hygiene.

 

Natural Hygiene is less popular because it seems to be more restrictive.

Yet this is the way that is closest to what we would do if we were out

in nature. It also has had extensive scientific study to back up many of

it's principles.

 

Personally, I've tried many different approaches to eating raw and I

continually fine-tune my diet for Peak Performance. Raw Secrets is a

great book along these lines because you learn about the many pitfalls

that raw foodists make. Hopefully you'll realize the truth in the book

and follow that advice.

 

I have a link to that book and the fantastic magazine " Just Eat an

Apple. " Their latest issue is tremendous. It is a must read. Almost all

the articles are super informative and taught me some new things. It is

a great issue if you want to introduce someone to the raw food diet.

It's the issue with the Blood Type Diet article. This issue is a must

read. It may blow away a lot of your old ideas and misconceptions about

the raw food diet.

 

To see more about the book and magazine just click this link.

http://www.mcssl.com/app/aftrack.asp?afid=74580

 

I also have the utmost respect for Dr. Douglas Graham and Prof. Rozalind

Gruben. They have an intense scientific background. A good book from Dr.

Graham is called " Nutrition and Athletic Performance. " Don't worry it

isn't just about sports. It's good for anyone wanting a raw diet. Seeing

them in person is even better.

 

To see Dr. Graham's books and read free articles you can go to

http://www.doctorgraham.cc

 

Prof. Gruben is coming out with an in-depth book called " Raw Nutritional

Science. " I am looking forward to that.

 

If you are afraid of eating too much fruit then I suggest you listen to

the message from Dr. Graham and Prof. Gruben. You'll also learn why to

much fat even if it is raw is very dangerous to consume.

 

Did you know that there have been experiments taking college students

and asking them to eat as much fat as they possibly can for one week and

that after that one week they all had diabetes? You would think diabetes

has to do with eating too much sugar when in fact it has much more to do

with eating too much fat.

 

The key is keeping your blood sugar within normal ranges. This is easy

to do if you don't have a lot of fat in your diet. So the healthy raw

diet is a low fat, raw food diet. Unfortunately, the average raw foodist

eats about 60% of their calories from fat, many as high as 80% of

calories.

 

From my personal experience, I have found that this doesn't work. The

worst thing to do is to mix a high fruit and high fat diet. Probably

better to eat virtually no fruit if you are going to do that. However,

there have been extensive studies on fat consumption and the conclusion

seems to be that a whole host of diseases can be traced back to a high

fat diet and not a high carbohydrate diet.

 

For more information on this, I suggest you go to this link

 

http://www.european-vegetarian.org/evu/eurocong99/audio/

 

and download talk # 39. Dr. Hans Diehl called Reversing Diabetes. You

should also listen to his talk # 11 called Reversing Heart Disease.

These are great presentations.

 

The healthiest cultures around the world all consume a high carbohydrate

diet. It's only the sickly western societies that eat so much meat and a

highly processed and refined diet. Now many countries are starting to

copy us and having terrible health because of it.

 

To Your Radiant Health, Roger Haeske

 

Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now

you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100%

Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach, Roger Haeske,

the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and

http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn

how to go 100% RAW.

 

 

 

Nicki Hendrix [pulaskiheightslist]

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:43 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] book advice

 

hi, everyone --

 

after a lot of banging my head against the wall re: raw food, i've

gotten resounding response from my local food co-ops. ask and it shall

be given, right? i asked both of the two local veg stores that i

frequent to please get more raw stuff -- and now i get a raw class

(4/30) and raw books galore! the problem here now is that i have no

idea which books to buy. there are literally 30+ of them available to

me at the moment. i already have _Raw!_, _The Raw Gourmet_ (two thumbs

up to both) and _Raw Power_ (which i don't like very much).

 

My new options seem to be the various Sunfood and Nature's First Law

books, Nison books galore and several books whose authors i have yet to

hear of (books look great, though). my problem with the books that i

have is that quality is #1 for me. smudgy covers and bad photos i can

handle -- but bad grammar, bad recipes and questionable science i

cannot. any recommendations?

 

--nicki

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/16/2003 1:09:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

carlo7 writes:

 

> I recommend you read anything by Herbert M Shelton or V V Vetrano

 

Hey Karl,

Could you name some good books by V V Vetrano? I'm having a herd time

finding any.

 

Thanks, Eric

 

 

 

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