Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Am fascinated to read about the amino acid deficiencies which are possible. Would like to have such a test myself. EAV tests however get a very bad press. Where do I set about such tests if general medical practitioners are so scathing in the need for any such tests? Peter Gardiner alreadyherenow [no_reply ] 11 May 2003 16:03 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham rawfood , Margie Roswell <mroswell@f...> wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 2003, alreadyherenow wrote: > > > I forgot to mention I also was deficient in tyrosine...necessary for > > dopamine production. > > How did you determine what you were deficient in? Mostly from symptoms and dietary history and experimentation. I also took EAV tests. The health problems related to amino acid deficincies are well established. When I added the amino acids that I suspected I was deficient in, it made huge changes in my health. For instance, if your liver isn't making enough tyrosine (not in plants) than you won't make enough dopamine because tyrosine is the precurser for dopamine. Low dopamine leads to depression, low drive, foggy brain, etc. When I added tyrosine, it was light a light switch was turned on. At first I took it everyday, but now that my deficiency is corrected, I only have to take it once a week and the benfits hold. Taurine was another big one I was deficient in. Taurine deficiencies result in your liver not being able to clear toxins correctly. This leads to multiople chemical sensitivities. My MCS got much better after adding taurine to my diet. Proline was another one. According to Dr. Slagle, most people with arthritis and other chronic health problems have low proline. Prolin eis necessary for building cartilage. Proline helped my neck arthritis heal. I had it for years before now. > (And why don't doctors routinely test for this sort of thing?) Honestly. I do not know! Most doctors just prescribe drugs to deal with symptoms. Naturopaths understand the role of deficincies in disease and they test for deficiencies. BestWishes, Pete > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Hi, I'm new to the group. I have to agree with Betsy. Over the last 15 years I have had many dealing with doctors due to cancer and other health problems. Doctors have been told that diet isn't worth checking into for cures. Diet may help prevent but not cure. I don't know if I blame doctors or the schools that are training them. But they have been programed to rely on drugs. And as the old saying goes...the drug companies get richer and the people get poorer, health that is. I have found that it is up to each individual to research treatment for themselves, and educate their doctor. I have learned this the hard way. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Hi Peter > Am fascinated to read about the amino acid deficiencies which are > possible. Theirs plenty of info on the internet. Just do a search for amino acids and deficiencies. > Would like to have such a test myself. EAV tests however get a very bad > press. The raw food diet, chiropractors, etc get bad press too. Biomeridian is supposed to be one of the best ones. I wouldn't trust EAV tests alone. They are an indicator that shouldn't be relied on 100%/ Deficiencies can usually be deduced by studying symptoms and dietary history. Then if you suspect a deficiency you can experiment by taking the suspected amino acid. If your health problem improves, then you were probably right. For instance: I had Multiple chem sensitivities, jaundice, liver problems, the liver manufactures taurine, I was vegan for 3 years, vegans have 25% less taurine in their bodies according to studies, low taurine can cause jaundice and multiple chem sensitivities. I took taurine and I got much better. Its like being a detective. > Where do I set about such tests if general medical practitioners are so > scathing in the need for any such tests? I'm not sure what you mean " set about " ? General medicinal practioners have scathing things to say about a lot of alternative medicine. They often ignore diet and just prescribe drugs. Best Wishes, Pete > Peter Gardiner > > > alreadyherenow [no_reply ] > 11 May 2003 16:03 > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > > rawfood , Margie Roswell <mroswell@f...> wrote: > > On Sat, 10 May 2003, alreadyherenow wrote: > > > > > I forgot to mention I also was deficient in tyrosine...necessary > for > > > dopamine production. > > > > How did you determine what you were deficient in? > > Mostly from symptoms and dietary history and experimentation. I also > took EAV tests. The health problems related to amino acid deficincies > are well established. When I added the amino acids that I suspected I > was deficient in, it made huge changes in my health. For instance, if > your liver isn't making enough tyrosine (not in plants) than you > won't make enough dopamine because tyrosine is the precurser for > dopamine. Low dopamine leads to depression, low drive, foggy brain, > etc. When I added tyrosine, it was light a light switch was turned on. > At first I took it everyday, but now that my deficiency is corrected, > I only have to take it once a week and the benfits hold. Taurine was > another big one I was deficient in. Taurine deficiencies > result in your liver not being able to clear toxins correctly. This > leads to multiople chemical sensitivities. My MCS got much better > after adding taurine to my diet. > Proline was another one. According to Dr. Slagle, most people with > arthritis and other chronic health problems have low proline. Prolin > eis necessary for building cartilage. Proline helped my neck > arthritis heal. I had it for years before now. > > > (And why don't doctors routinely test for this sort of thing?) > > Honestly. I do not know! Most doctors just prescribe drugs to deal > with symptoms. Naturopaths understand the role of deficincies in > disease and they test for deficiencies. > > BestWishes, > Pete > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Betsy, I have to agree as one who survived a liver transplant two years ago. From the day I walked out of that hospital, my first goal was getting off the prednisone ASAP and weaning off the drugs within one year. I accomplished both in six months on my own with half doses of everything against the doctors' approval. Eventually I showed them another program in the country using the six month shut off period and finally they came around. I had to teach them. Now it's common practice to cut off the prednisone at six months or less, depending of course, on the condition of the transplant patient. I found that the doctors were great at the initial diagnosis and the final surgery but fell short on long term maintenance. This is a common challenge among western trained doctors to be unable to " see " the patient and drop them into the process. They get away with it unless they are " listening " or have been trained outside the box. I am convinced every challenge I encountered was the result of cooked foods and a bad diet anyway.. We HAVE to be smart because it comes down to is each one of doing the research and trusting our own intuition about what our bodies want and require. I don't think it's about doctors or the drug companies, but more about us listening to what they are trying to program us with. Fast foods, drugs that " instantly " mask " the symptoms and make us feel better, etc. Regards, Jess - <Ccjmortensen <rawfood > Sunday, May 11, 2003 5:11 PM Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > Hi, I'm new to the group. I have to agree with Betsy. <snipe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Hi all, hi Jackie I am new to this list and I found this mail in the archive. I have got problems with menstruation as well, haven't had my period for some years. For me it is a huge problem cause I want to have a baby. I would like to know how you got your menstruation back? What do you mean by " extremly underweight " ? Is there anybody else who has any experience with the feminin cycle, fertility and raw food? Are there special remedies, herbs, raw food that inhances fertility or helps the body producing more oestrogenes. Any thoughts and idees are greatly appreciated love Ina rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> wrote: > Doug, > > I know plenty of long term raw food women who menstruate regularly.. it > seems that only the extremely underweight raw food women stop menstruating, > which was the case with myself. I wasn't menstruating when I first went raw > for this same reason.. I disagree about the protein.. and it was this type > of information that brought me ill health in the first place. > > To all the other replies to my post- I spend a lot of time at Gabriel's > center, the Tree of Life.. and have had a " whole person healing " with > Gabriel Cousens.. and this is where I was informed of all of my health > problems, of which there were many. I feel *so* much better now =) > > >kauguy <no_reply > > >rawfood > >rawfood > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > >Sat, 10 May 2003 09:24:18 -0000 > > > >Jackie; Wild female animals and raw food women do not menstruate. > >Cessation of menstruation through raw foods is a sign of health and > >not a sign of any kind of deficiency. The only way you can become > >infertile is to continue to eat cooked food. It will happen during > >menopause, raw women do not go through menopause, and therefore > >remain fertile indefinitely. Protein in excess of 2% of our diet is > >dangerous and is the only cause of cancer. The eating of fruits and > >green leafy vegetables has the perfect amount of protein. Please read > >this article; http://www.justeatanapple.com/nuts_and_seeds.html I > >would also like to email you, and anyone else who is interested an > >excerpt from " Survival Into The 21st Century " by Viktoras Kulvinskas > >which talks about menstruation and raw women. This is a large file > >and I do not want to send it without your permission. > > > >Doug > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> > >wrote: > > > I have a protein deficiency.. I've been raw for 1.5 years.. I did > >Dr. > > > Grahams program for a while, but became extremely unbalanced with a > >result > > > of candida and multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I also > >was quite > > > gullible when it came to advice from many raw fooders about detox, > >weight > > > loss, and the infamous protein deficiencies almost never occur > >unless you > > > don't eat anything " .. right.. yes, you CAN develop a protein > >deficiency > > > even eating raw fruits and vegetables... and it is very easy to not > >eat > > > enough calories when eating raw. I don't make that mistake > >anymore.. I have > > > cured my candida and deficiencies..thank you gabriel cousens.. =) > >now I'm > > > working on gaining weight (body fat) so I can begin menstruating > >again so as > > > not to end up infertile! > > > > > > Even raw food can be dangerous.. make sure you know what you're > >doing, and > > > always listen to your instinct over other people's advice > >or " knowledge " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mavalkyrie " <mavalkyrie> > > > >rawfood > > > >rawfood > > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > > >Mon, 05 May 2003 20:58:27 -0000 > > > > > > > >I have never met anyone with one either, the diet would have to be > > > >totally devoid of fruit and vegetables, meat, and consist of mostly > > > >processed junk food and soda. That is the only way I could envision > > > >it happening. > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Roger Haeske " <roger@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " Has anyone ever > > > > > met someone with a protein deficiency? I sure as heck haven't. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > _______________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Ina; I don't know how long you have been raw, if you are transitioning or not. But in the book " Survival into the 21st Century " by Victoras Kulvinskas He talks about the problem of raw foodist stopping menstruation. I copied it into my computer and would be glad to email it to you. It is a very good read. If anyone would like to read this please let me know either here, or email me at kauguy Anyone would enjoy this men or women as it really opens you up to the possibilities of raw foods. By the way, is your last name Warburg? Any relation to Otto Warburg the two time nobel prize winner? Doug rawfood , " inawarburg " <ina.warburg@f...> wrote: > Hi all, hi Jackie > > I am new to this list and I found this mail in the archive. I have > got problems with menstruation as well, haven't had my period for some > years. For me it is a huge problem cause I want to have a baby. > I would like to know how you got your menstruation back? > What do you mean by " extremly underweight " ? > Is there anybody else who has any experience with the feminin cycle, > fertility and raw food? > Are there special remedies, herbs, raw food that inhances fertility or > helps the body producing more oestrogenes. > > Any thoughts and idees are greatly appreciated > > love > Ina > > > > rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> wrote: > > Doug, > > > > I know plenty of long term raw food women who menstruate regularly.. it > > seems that only the extremely underweight raw food women stop > menstruating, > > which was the case with myself. I wasn't menstruating when I first > went raw > > for this same reason.. I disagree about the protein.. and it was > this type > > of information that brought me ill health in the first place. > > > > To all the other replies to my post- I spend a lot of time at Gabriel's > > center, the Tree of Life.. and have had a " whole person healing " with > > Gabriel Cousens.. and this is where I was informed of all of my health > > problems, of which there were many. I feel *so* much better now =) > > > > >kauguy <no_reply > > > >rawfood > > >rawfood > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > >Sat, 10 May 2003 09:24:18 -0000 > > > > > >Jackie; Wild female animals and raw food women do not menstruate. > > >Cessation of menstruation through raw foods is a sign of health and > > >not a sign of any kind of deficiency. The only way you can become > > >infertile is to continue to eat cooked food. It will happen during > > >menopause, raw women do not go through menopause, and therefore > > >remain fertile indefinitely. Protein in excess of 2% of our diet is > > >dangerous and is the only cause of cancer. The eating of fruits and > > >green leafy vegetables has the perfect amount of protein. Please read > > >this article; http://www.justeatanapple.com/nuts_and_seeds.html I > > >would also like to email you, and anyone else who is interested an > > >excerpt from " Survival Into The 21st Century " by Viktoras Kulvinskas > > >which talks about menstruation and raw women. This is a large file > > >and I do not want to send it without your permission. > > > > > >Doug > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> > > >wrote: > > > > I have a protein deficiency.. I've been raw for 1.5 years.. I did > > >Dr. > > > > Grahams program for a while, but became extremely unbalanced with a > > >result > > > > of candida and multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I also > > >was quite > > > > gullible when it came to advice from many raw fooders about detox, > > >weight > > > > loss, and the infamous protein deficiencies almost never occur > > >unless you > > > > don't eat anything " .. right.. yes, you CAN develop a protein > > >deficiency > > > > even eating raw fruits and vegetables... and it is very easy to not > > >eat > > > > enough calories when eating raw. I don't make that mistake > > >anymore.. I have > > > > cured my candida and deficiencies..thank you gabriel cousens.. =) > > >now I'm > > > > working on gaining weight (body fat) so I can begin menstruating > > >again so as > > > > not to end up infertile! > > > > > > > > Even raw food can be dangerous.. make sure you know what you're > > >doing, and > > > > always listen to your instinct over other people's advice > > >or " knowledge " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mavalkyrie " <mavalkyrie> > > > > >rawfood > > > > >rawfood > > > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > > > >Mon, 05 May 2003 20:58:27 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >I have never met anyone with one either, the diet would have to be > > > > >totally devoid of fruit and vegetables, meat, and consist of mostly > > > > >processed junk food and soda. That is the only way I could envision > > > > >it happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Roger Haeske " <roger@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Has anyone ever > > > > > > met someone with a protein deficiency? I sure as heck haven't. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > _______________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Doug, Your message 3406 seems informative on this subject. Peter kauguy [no_reply ] 03 October 2003 08:44 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham Ina; I don't know how long you have been raw, if you are transitioning or not. But in the book " Survival into the 21st Century " by Victoras Kulvinskas He talks about the problem of raw foodist stopping menstruation. I copied it into my computer and would be glad to email it to you. It is a very good read. If anyone would like to read this please let me know either here, or email me at kauguy Anyone would enjoy this men or women as it really opens you up to the possibilities of raw foods. By the way, is your last name Warburg? Any relation to Otto Warburg the two time nobel prize winner? Doug rawfood , " inawarburg " <ina.warburg@f...> wrote: > Hi all, hi Jackie > > I am new to this list and I found this mail in the archive. I have > got problems with menstruation as well, haven't had my period for some > years. For me it is a huge problem cause I want to have a baby. > I would like to know how you got your menstruation back? > What do you mean by " extremly underweight " ? > Is there anybody else who has any experience with the feminin cycle, > fertility and raw food? > Are there special remedies, herbs, raw food that inhances fertility or > helps the body producing more oestrogenes. > > Any thoughts and idees are greatly appreciated > > love > Ina > > > > rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> wrote: > > Doug, > > > > I know plenty of long term raw food women who menstruate regularly.. it > > seems that only the extremely underweight raw food women stop > menstruating, > > which was the case with myself. I wasn't menstruating when I first > went raw > > for this same reason.. I disagree about the protein.. and it was > this type > > of information that brought me ill health in the first place. > > > > To all the other replies to my post- I spend a lot of time at Gabriel's > > center, the Tree of Life.. and have had a " whole person healing " with > > Gabriel Cousens.. and this is where I was informed of all of my health > > problems, of which there were many. I feel *so* much better now =) > > > > >kauguy <no_reply > > > >rawfood > > >rawfood > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > >Sat, 10 May 2003 09:24:18 -0000 > > > > > >Jackie; Wild female animals and raw food women do not menstruate. > > >Cessation of menstruation through raw foods is a sign of health and > > >not a sign of any kind of deficiency. The only way you can become > > >infertile is to continue to eat cooked food. It will happen during > > >menopause, raw women do not go through menopause, and therefore > > >remain fertile indefinitely. Protein in excess of 2% of our diet is > > >dangerous and is the only cause of cancer. The eating of fruits and > > >green leafy vegetables has the perfect amount of protein. Please read > > >this article; http://www.justeatanapple.com/nuts_and_seeds.html I > > >would also like to email you, and anyone else who is interested an > > >excerpt from " Survival Into The 21st Century " by Viktoras Kulvinskas > > >which talks about menstruation and raw women. This is a large file > > >and I do not want to send it without your permission. > > > > > >Doug > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> > > >wrote: > > > > I have a protein deficiency.. I've been raw for 1.5 years.. I did > > >Dr. > > > > Grahams program for a while, but became extremely unbalanced with a > > >result > > > > of candida and multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I also > > >was quite > > > > gullible when it came to advice from many raw fooders about detox, > > >weight > > > > loss, and the infamous protein deficiencies almost never occur > > >unless you > > > > don't eat anything " .. right.. yes, you CAN develop a protein > > >deficiency > > > > even eating raw fruits and vegetables... and it is very easy to not > > >eat > > > > enough calories when eating raw. I don't make that mistake > > >anymore.. I have > > > > cured my candida and deficiencies..thank you gabriel cousens.. =) > > >now I'm > > > > working on gaining weight (body fat) so I can begin menstruating > > >again so as > > > > not to end up infertile! > > > > > > > > Even raw food can be dangerous.. make sure you know what you're > > >doing, and > > > > always listen to your instinct over other people's advice > > >or " knowledge " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mavalkyrie " <mavalkyrie> > > > > >rawfood > > > > >rawfood > > > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > > > >Mon, 05 May 2003 20:58:27 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >I have never met anyone with one either, the diet would have to be > > > > >totally devoid of fruit and vegetables, meat, and consist of mostly > > > > >processed junk food and soda. That is the only way I could envision > > > > >it happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Roger Haeske " <roger@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Has anyone ever > > > > > > met someone with a protein deficiency? I sure as heck haven't. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > _______________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Hi Doug, Thanks a lot for your reply. Now, I'm not tranditioning, I'm raw foodist for almost 4 years and vegetarian for 25 jears. I mention it because often people think not eating meat and fish is the reason why I dont menstruate. Is it true that vegetarian woman are more likely to have problems with fertility? Yes, I would really like to read the article by Victoras Kulvinskas. My adress: ina.warburg Btw, I don't know about any relation to Otto Warburg. Have to ask my husband. Tks very much for your help Ina kauguy wrote: > Ina; > I don't know how long you have been raw, if you are transitioning or > not. But in the book " Survival into the 21st Century " by Victoras > Kulvinskas He talks about the problem of raw foodist stopping > menstruation. I copied it into my computer and would be glad to email > it to you. It is a very good read. If anyone would like to read this > please let me know either here, or email me at kauguy > Anyone would enjoy this men or women as it really opens you up to > the possibilities of raw foods. > > By the way, is your last name Warburg? Any relation to Otto Warburg > the two time nobel prize winner? > > Doug > > > > > rawfood , " inawarburg " <ina.warburg@f...> wrote: > > Hi all, hi Jackie > > > > I am new to this list and I found this mail in the archive. I have > > got problems with menstruation as well, haven't had my period for > some > > years. For me it is a huge problem cause I want to have a baby. > > I would like to know how you got your menstruation back? > > What do you mean by " extremly underweight " ? > > Is there anybody else who has any experience with the feminin cycle, > > fertility and raw food? > > Are there special remedies, herbs, raw food that inhances fertility > or > > helps the body producing more oestrogenes. > > > > Any thoughts and idees are greatly appreciated > > > > love > > Ina > > > > > > > > rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> > wrote: > > > Doug, > > > > > > I know plenty of long term raw food women who menstruate > regularly.. it > > > seems that only the extremely underweight raw food women stop > > menstruating, > > > which was the case with myself. I wasn't menstruating when I first > > went raw > > > for this same reason.. I disagree about the protein.. and it was > > this type > > > of information that brought me ill health in the first place. > > > > > > To all the other replies to my post- I spend a lot of time at > Gabriel's > > > center, the Tree of Life.. and have had a " whole person healing " > with > > > Gabriel Cousens.. and this is where I was informed of all of my > health > > > problems, of which there were many. I feel *so* much better now =) > > > > > > >kauguy <no_reply > > > > >rawfood > > > >rawfood > > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > > >Sat, 10 May 2003 09:24:18 -0000 > > > > > > > >Jackie; Wild female animals and raw food women do not menstruate. > > > >Cessation of menstruation through raw foods is a sign of health > and > > > >not a sign of any kind of deficiency. The only way you can become > > > >infertile is to continue to eat cooked food. It will happen > during > > > >menopause, raw women do not go through menopause, and therefore > > > >remain fertile indefinitely. Protein in excess of 2% of our diet > is > > > >dangerous and is the only cause of cancer. The eating of fruits > and > > > >green leafy vegetables has the perfect amount of protein. Please > read > > > >this article; http://www.justeatanapple.com/nuts_and_seeds.html > I > > > >would also like to email you, and anyone else who is interested > an > > > >excerpt from " Survival Into The 21st Century " by Viktoras > Kulvinskas > > > >which talks about menstruation and raw women. This is a large > file > > > >and I do not want to send it without your permission. > > > > > > > >Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> > > > >wrote: > > > > > I have a protein deficiency.. I've been raw for 1.5 years.. I > did > > > >Dr. > > > > > Grahams program for a while, but became extremely unbalanced > with a > > > >result > > > > > of candida and multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I > also > > > >was quite > > > > > gullible when it came to advice from many raw fooders about > detox, > > > >weight > > > > > loss, and the infamous protein deficiencies almost never occur > > > >unless you > > > > > don't eat anything " .. right.. yes, you CAN develop a protein > > > >deficiency > > > > > even eating raw fruits and vegetables... and it is very easy > to not > > > >eat > > > > > enough calories when eating raw. I don't make that mistake > > > >anymore.. I have > > > > > cured my candida and deficiencies..thank you gabriel > cousens.. =) > > > >now I'm > > > > > working on gaining weight (body fat) so I can begin > menstruating > > > >again so as > > > > > not to end up infertile! > > > > > > > > > > Even raw food can be dangerous.. make sure you know what > you're > > > >doing, and > > > > > always listen to your instinct over other people's advice > > > >or " knowledge " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mavalkyrie " <mavalkyrie> > > > > > >rawfood > > > > > >rawfood > > > > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > > > > >Mon, 05 May 2003 20:58:27 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >I have never met anyone with one either, the diet would have > to be > > > > > >totally devoid of fruit and vegetables, meat, and consist of > mostly > > > > > >processed junk food and soda. That is the only way I could > envision > > > > > >it happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Roger Haeske " <roger@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Has anyone ever > > > > > > > met someone with a protein deficiency? I sure as heck > haven't. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Hi Doug, I am interested in Victoras Kulvinskas article (about the problem of raw foodist stopping menstruation). Thanks, Liz mel42457 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Me, too! Karen - mel42457 rawfood Friday, October 03, 2003 9:05 AM Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham Hi Doug, I am interested in Victoras Kulvinskas article (about the problem of raw foodist stopping menstruation). Thanks, Liz mel42457 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Ina; I have a glitch in my computer and can't send you that file right now. I'm not sure why but I will fix it. Doug rawfood , Ina Warburg <ina.warburg@f...> wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Thanks a lot for your reply. > Now, I'm not tranditioning, I'm raw foodist for almost 4 years and > vegetarian for 25 jears. I mention it because often people think not > eating meat and fish is the reason why I dont menstruate. Is it true > that vegetarian woman are more likely to have problems with fertility? > > Yes, I would really like to read the article by Victoras Kulvinskas. My > adress: ina.warburg@f... > > Btw, I don't know about any relation to Otto Warburg. Have to ask my > husband. > > Tks very much for your help > > Ina > > kauguy wrote: > > Ina; > > I don't know how long you have been raw, if you are transitioning or > > not. But in the book " Survival into the 21st Century " by Victoras > > Kulvinskas He talks about the problem of raw foodist stopping > > menstruation. I copied it into my computer and would be glad to email > > it to you. It is a very good read. If anyone would like to read this > > please let me know either here, or email me at kauguy > > Anyone would enjoy this men or women as it really opens you up to > > the possibilities of raw foods. > > > > By the way, is your last name Warburg? Any relation to Otto Warburg > > the two time nobel prize winner? > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > rawfood , " inawarburg " <ina.warburg@f...> wrote: > > > Hi all, hi Jackie > > > > > > I am new to this list and I found this mail in the archive. I have > > > got problems with menstruation as well, haven't had my period for > > some > > > years. For me it is a huge problem cause I want to have a baby. > > > I would like to know how you got your menstruation back? > > > What do you mean by " extremly underweight " ? > > > Is there anybody else who has any experience with the feminin cycle, > > > fertility and raw food? > > > Are there special remedies, herbs, raw food that inhances fertility > > or > > > helps the body producing more oestrogenes. > > > > > > Any thoughts and idees are greatly appreciated > > > > > > love > > > Ina > > > > > > > > > > > > rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> > > wrote: > > > > Doug, > > > > > > > > I know plenty of long term raw food women who menstruate > > regularly.. it > > > > seems that only the extremely underweight raw food women stop > > > menstruating, > > > > which was the case with myself. I wasn't menstruating when I first > > > went raw > > > > for this same reason.. I disagree about the protein.. and it was > > > this type > > > > of information that brought me ill health in the first place. > > > > > > > > To all the other replies to my post- I spend a lot of time at > > Gabriel's > > > > center, the Tree of Life.. and have had a " whole person healing " > > with > > > > Gabriel Cousens.. and this is where I was informed of all of my > > health > > > > problems, of which there were many. I feel *so* much better now =) > > > > > > > > >kauguy <no_reply > > > > > >rawfood > > > > >rawfood > > > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > > > >Sat, 10 May 2003 09:24:18 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Jackie; Wild female animals and raw food women do not menstruate. > > > > >Cessation of menstruation through raw foods is a sign of health > > and > > > > >not a sign of any kind of deficiency. The only way you can become > > > > >infertile is to continue to eat cooked food. It will happen > > during > > > > >menopause, raw women do not go through menopause, and therefore > > > > >remain fertile indefinitely. Protein in excess of 2% of our diet > > is > > > > >dangerous and is the only cause of cancer. The eating of fruits > > and > > > > >green leafy vegetables has the perfect amount of protein. Please > > read > > > > >this article; http://www.justeatanapple.com/nuts_and_seeds.html > > I > > > > >would also like to email you, and anyone else who is interested > > an > > > > >excerpt from " Survival Into The 21st Century " by Viktoras > > Kulvinskas > > > > >which talks about menstruation and raw women. This is a large > > file > > > > >and I do not want to send it without your permission. > > > > > > > > > >Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Jackie North " <vegchick86@h...> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > I have a protein deficiency.. I've been raw for 1.5 years.. I > > did > > > > >Dr. > > > > > > Grahams program for a while, but became extremely unbalanced > > with a > > > > >result > > > > > > of candida and multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I > > also > > > > >was quite > > > > > > gullible when it came to advice from many raw fooders about > > detox, > > > > >weight > > > > > > loss, and the infamous protein deficiencies almost never occur > > > > >unless you > > > > > > don't eat anything " .. right.. yes, you CAN develop a protein > > > > >deficiency > > > > > > even eating raw fruits and vegetables... and it is very easy > > to not > > > > >eat > > > > > > enough calories when eating raw. I don't make that mistake > > > > >anymore.. I have > > > > > > cured my candida and deficiencies..thank you gabriel > > cousens.. =) > > > > >now I'm > > > > > > working on gaining weight (body fat) so I can begin > > menstruating > > > > >again so as > > > > > > not to end up infertile! > > > > > > > > > > > > Even raw food can be dangerous.. make sure you know what > > you're > > > > >doing, and > > > > > > always listen to your instinct over other people's advice > > > > >or " knowledge " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mavalkyrie " <mavalkyrie> > > > > > > >rawfood > > > > > > >rawfood > > > > > > >Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham > > > > > > >Mon, 05 May 2003 20:58:27 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I have never met anyone with one either, the diet would have > > to be > > > > > > >totally devoid of fruit and vegetables, meat, and consist of > > mostly > > > > > > >processed junk food and soda. That is the only way I could > > envision > > > > > > >it happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >rawfood , " Roger Haeske " <roger@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Has anyone ever > > > > > > > > met someone with a protein deficiency? I sure as heck > > haven't. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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