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>>...how " low carb " pasta is made?<<

 

[is]...there really is such a thing as " low carb " pasta. The answer is yes,

and no! Actually, there are several brands of pasta on the market calling

themselves " low carb " . And certainly, they are much lower in carbs than

" traditional " pasta. But, " low carb " pasta usually has around 10g of carbs

per serving - and that may be too much for those in the initial stages of

their low carb diet. So, before rushing out and ordering low carb pasta,

wait until you've completed your " induction " stage. Then, order away! If

you're not doing an " Atkins " type diet, but only trying to lower your

carbohydrate intake, these are a great adddition to your diet anytime.

 

How can " pasta " be made low carb? The main ingredient of all the pastas we

checked was SOY in one form or another. Most low carb pastas DO contain

wheat or wheat gluten as well, so if you're allergic to wheat, or you need

to be on a gluten free diet, these products are not suitable for you.

 

Do these product taste like " real " pasta? Not exactly. Due to the soy

content, they do have a slight soy taste. But most folks find them

acceptable, especially with a nice Alfredo sauce, or a well seasoned low

carb tomato sauce. And make sure you follow the cooking instructions EXACTLY

- otherwise you'll end up with a sticky mess!

 

The most popular brands of low carb pasta seem to be: Due Amici, KETO,

ProSlim, and Pastalia. No doubt, as the lower carb lifestyle becomes more

accepted more companies will be making it - so keep searching!

 

To read more about this topic, go to...

http://www.lowcarbcookies.com/low_carb_pasta.htm

 

 

 

>>...what the Keto thing is all about<<

 

Hmmm, it looks to me like the people behind the " Keto thing " are the same

people behind the founding of " The Life Extension Foundation " 20 years ago,

which I've referred too here before.

 

Orignially, I was not too interested in the " Keto thing, " but this finding

adds a lot more credibility to it and it's usefulness in my diet.

 

Both links are the same company...

http://www.ketofoods.com/

 

http://www.lifeservices.com/index.html

 

This is their nutritional research organization...

http://www.lef.org/

 

I'm excited about finding this new info. Now, I can replace the standard

carb bread maching mixes with ones that deliver 10 g of carb per serving

instead of 30+ g.

 

 

>>referring to the ketosis Atkins recommends?

 

Being in ketosis means your body has burned a large amount of fat in

response to the fact that it didn't have sufficient glucose available for

energy needs. Under everyday conditions, the carbohydrates you eat are

converted to glucose, which is the body's primary source of energy. Whenever

your intake of carbohydrates is limited to a certain range, for a long

enough period of time, you'll reach a point where your body draws on its

alternate energy system, fat stores, for fuel.

 

This condition called dietary ketosis, means your body burns fat and turns

it into a source of fuel called ketones. Ketones are produced whenever body

fat is burned. When you burn a larger amount of fat than is immediately

needed for energy, the excess ketones are discarded in the urine.

 

Dietary ketosis is among the most maligned and misunderstood concepts in

nutrition because it is often confused with ketoacidosis, which is a

life-threatening condition most often associated with uncontrolled

insulin-deficient Type 1 diabetes. In the Type 1 diabetic, the absence of

insulin leads to a toxic build-up of blood glucose and an extreme break-down

of fat and muscle tissue. This condition doesn't occur in individuals who

have even a small amount of insulin, whether from natural production or

artificially administered.

 

Dietary ketosis, however, is a natural adjustment to the body's reduced

intake of carbohydrates as the body shifts its primary source of energy from

carbohydrates to stored fat. The presence of insulin keeps ketone

production in check so that a mild, beneficial ketosis is achieved. Blood

glucose levels are stabilized within a normal range and there is no

break-down of healthy muscle tissue.

 

See this link for more info...

http://www.ketosis-ketoacidosis-difference.com/

 

I do not do the Atkin's Diet. I know a number of people who do but don't

know any veggies who do. Instead, I use my variation of " The Soy Zone "

diet.

 

Dave

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Hello, everyone,

 

My name is Ann, and I'm feeling a little dismayed at some things I

read today. At another group, a woman posted a list of medical

studies, pro and con, about the raw foods diet. One of the negatives

was that they found an increase in dental cavities in long-term raw

foodists.

 

Another negative from a noted nutritionist stated that eventually raw

foodists begin to " waste " . The diet depletes the pancreas' enzymes

and makes the adrenals weak, which, alon with many other nasty

things, can eventually make the person's cholesterol levels in crease.

 

As I already have pancreas, adrenal, and dental problems, I certainly

don't want to make them any worse. I got on this diet because it

just seemed so right for me. I don't know if I can go back to cooked

food now.

 

Also, a well-recognized macrobiotic book states that too many raw

foods makes a person slow-witted and hazy. I've been suffering from

that since I got on the diet 1 1/2 mos. ago. How long can I expect

that to last.

 

Thanks to anyone who can answer.

 

Ann

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Ann,

 

There more bunk out there than I care to read.

 

Your noted nutritionist should be tested for his

knowledge. Please ask him how cooking food improves

the quality of the nutrients of particular foods. If

he can name say ten foods which are enhanced in terms of

health by cooking which do not set out from a starting

point of being poisonous in the first place, then I am sure

he will rock this forum to its foundations.

 

I predict that we will all learn from the experience.

 

Sure massive amounts of citric acid will rot your teeth.

So too will huge quantities of nuts. I wonder how much good

cooking an overdose of anything will do.

 

Looking forward to some interesting reading.

 

Just as a matter of interest, I am visiting a dietician, MD, with

a degree in microbiology who is performing all kinds of tests.

 

If there are adrenal or pancreatic or cholesterol or any other

weaknesses

I will be back here to find out what to do about them.

 

When people are asked to guess my age by looking at me, they usually get

 

it wrong by 20 years and I feel fine. Five years ago, neither was the

case.

 

 

Peter

 

 

 

arjaxaa [arjax]

25 May 2003 02:04

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Hello, everyone,

 

My name is Ann, and I'm feeling a little dismayed at some things I

read today. At another group, a woman posted a list of medical

studies, pro and con, about the raw foods diet. One of the negatives

was that they found an increase in dental cavities in long-term raw

foodists.

 

Another negative from a noted nutritionist stated that eventually raw

foodists begin to " waste " . The diet depletes the pancreas' enzymes

and makes the adrenals weak, which, alon with many other nasty

things, can eventually make the person's cholesterol levels in crease.

 

As I already have pancreas, adrenal, and dental problems, I certainly

don't want to make them any worse. I got on this diet because it

just seemed so right for me. I don't know if I can go back to cooked

food now.

 

Also, a well-recognized macrobiotic book states that too many raw

foods makes a person slow-witted and hazy. I've been suffering from

that since I got on the diet 1 1/2 mos. ago. How long can I expect

that to last.

 

Thanks to anyone who can answer.

 

Ann

 

 

 

 

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Hi Ann,

 

There are plenty of naysayers out there on almost anything you can imagine.

 

It is amazing that raw living foods that are full of enzymes would cause the

pancreas to lose its enzymes. :)

 

Just keep up your living food lifestyle and don't give those who profit from

your declining health any space in your world. Seek out those who have been

on this lifestyle for many years and follow their lead.

 

Bill

----

 

rawfood

Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:23:46 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] more questions

 

Hello, everyone,

 

My name is Ann, and I'm feeling a little dismayed at some things I

read today. At another group, a woman posted a list of medical

studies, pro and con, about the raw foods diet. One of the negatives

was that they found an increase in dental cavities in long-term raw

foodists.

 

Ann

 

 

 

 

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Peter,

 

Thanks so much for sharing. I just needed some support from people. I am lucky

enough to have a wonderfully sympathic husband, who's not ready to take the raw

plunge yet, but I get so much negativity from all others. I do not live in an

" enlightened " town.

 

I know I feel better. I know I look better; everyone comments on the " glow " . I

guess I was just at the point where I couldn't hear one more negative thing

w/out some support, which you provided.

 

Thanks, again, and let us know about your tests. Hope to heck you come back

with a glowing report!

 

Peace,

 

Ann

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Peter Gardiner

rawfood

Sunday, May 25, 2003 10:00 AM

RE: [Raw Food] more questions

 

 

Ann,

 

There more bunk out there than I care to read.

 

Your noted nutritionist should be tested for his

knowledge. Please ask him how cooking food improves

the quality of the nutrients of particular foods. If

he can name say ten foods which are enhanced in terms of

health by cooking which do not set out from a starting

point of being poisonous in the first place, then I am sure

he will rock this forum to its foundations.

 

I predict that we will all learn from the experience.

 

Sure massive amounts of citric acid will rot your teeth.

So too will huge quantities of nuts. I wonder how much good

cooking an overdose of anything will do.

 

Looking forward to some interesting reading.

 

Just as a matter of interest, I am visiting a dietician, MD, with

a degree in microbiology who is performing all kinds of tests.

 

If there are adrenal or pancreatic or cholesterol or any other

weaknesses

I will be back here to find out what to do about them.

 

When people are asked to guess my age by looking at me, they usually get

 

it wrong by 20 years and I feel fine. Five years ago, neither was the

case.

 

 

Peter

 

 

arjaxaa [arjax]

25 May 2003 02:04

rawfood

[Raw Food] more questions

 

 

Hello, everyone,

 

My name is Ann, and I'm feeling a little dismayed at some things I

read today. At another group, a woman posted a list of medical

studies, pro and con, about the raw foods diet. One of the negatives

was that they found an increase in dental cavities in long-term raw

foodists.

 

Another negative from a noted nutritionist stated that eventually raw

foodists begin to " waste " . The diet depletes the pancreas' enzymes

and makes the adrenals weak, which, alon with many other nasty

things, can eventually make the person's cholesterol levels in crease.

 

As I already have pancreas, adrenal, and dental problems, I certainly

don't want to make them any worse. I got on this diet because it

just seemed so right for me. I don't know if I can go back to cooked

food now.

 

Also, a well-recognized macrobiotic book states that too many raw

foods makes a person slow-witted and hazy. I've been suffering from

that since I got on the diet 1 1/2 mos. ago. How long can I expect

that to last.

 

Thanks to anyone who can answer.

 

Ann

 

 

 

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Bill,

 

Thanks for the positive message. Sometimes a girl just needs some

encouragement! Please read note to Peter, also.

 

Thanks!

 

Ann

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Bill Tinsley

rawfood

Sunday, May 25, 2003 10:02 AM

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Hi Ann,

 

There are plenty of naysayers out there on almost anything you can imagine.

 

It is amazing that raw living foods that are full of enzymes would cause the

pancreas to lose its enzymes. :)

 

Just keep up your living food lifestyle and don't give those who profit from

your declining health any space in your world. Seek out those who have been

on this lifestyle for many years and follow their lead.

 

Bill

----

 

rawfood

Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:23:46 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] more questions

 

Hello, everyone,

 

My name is Ann, and I'm feeling a little dismayed at some things I

read today. At another group, a woman posted a list of medical

studies, pro and con, about the raw foods diet. One of the negatives

was that they found an increase in dental cavities in long-term raw

foodists.

 

Ann

 

 

 

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Hmmmmm. 1 1/2 months and feeling slow-witted and hazy? I spent about

4 months like that in the beginning, although I had good days in

there as well, just enough to keep me motivated. Detox is no fun,

but you will get through it!

 

I have heard that over-eating citrus fruit is not good for your

teeth. However, I do not eat much fruit, and very little citrus, and

have not had problems as yet.

 

I can't comment on the pancreatic enzyme stuff, but I would suggest

waiting until the major detoxing is done and seeing how you feel.

Doesn't that tell you more than blah blah blah about enzymes?

 

I feel great most of the time, and I am relatively cleaned out, but I

will admit I am not a perfect raw fooder and I do eat some cooked,

although usually at least vegetarian. I have also done some really

stupid things since going mostly raw, like eating something very

obviously not raw or vegetarian and paid the price - felt like crap

and once even threw it up about 4 hours later. My body, in this

relatively cleaned out state, knows what is good for it and what

isn't. What a great thing!

 

Hang in there, it will get better,

Sally

 

 

 

rawfood , " arjaxaa " <arjax@c...> wrote:

> Hello, everyone,

>

> My name is Ann, and I'm feeling a little dismayed at some things I

> read today. At another group, a woman posted a list of medical

> studies, pro and con, about the raw foods diet. One of the

negatives

> was that they found an increase in dental cavities in long-term raw

> foodists.

>

> Another negative from a noted nutritionist stated that eventually

raw

> foodists begin to " waste " . The diet depletes the pancreas' enzymes

> and makes the adrenals weak, which, alon with many other nasty

> things, can eventually make the person's cholesterol levels in

crease.

>

> As I already have pancreas, adrenal, and dental problems, I

certainly

> don't want to make them any worse. I got on this diet because it

> just seemed so right for me. I don't know if I can go back to

cooked

> food now.

>

> Also, a well-recognized macrobiotic book states that too many raw

> foods makes a person slow-witted and hazy. I've been suffering

from

> that since I got on the diet 1 1/2 mos. ago. How long can I expect

> that to last.

>

> Thanks to anyone who can answer.

>

> Ann

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Hi Sally,

 

I range between 75% and 100% raw everyday. I'm sure I will slip at some point,

but for right now it makes me ill to think of eating cooked food.

 

With this kind of encouragement, I'll deinitely let my body be the judge.

 

Thank you so much,

 

Ann

 

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sallyannaz

rawfood

Sunday, May 25, 2003 3:45 PM

[Raw Food] Re: more questions

 

 

Hmmmmm. 1 1/2 months and feeling slow-witted and hazy? I spent about

4 months like that in the beginning, although I had good days in

there as well, just enough to keep me motivated. Detox is no fun,

but you will get through it!

 

I have heard that over-eating citrus fruit is not good for your

teeth. However, I do not eat much fruit, and very little citrus, and

have not had problems as yet.

 

I can't comment on the pancreatic enzyme stuff, but I would suggest

waiting until the major detoxing is done and seeing how you feel.

Doesn't that tell you more than blah blah blah about enzymes?

 

I feel great most of the time, and I am relatively cleaned out, but I

will admit I am not a perfect raw fooder and I do eat some cooked,

although usually at least vegetarian. I have also done some really

stupid things since going mostly raw, like eating something very

obviously not raw or vegetarian and paid the price - felt like crap

and once even threw it up about 4 hours later. My body, in this

relatively cleaned out state, knows what is good for it and what

isn't. What a great thing!

 

Hang in there, it will get better,

Sally

 

 

 

rawfood , " arjaxaa " <arjax@c...> wrote:

> Hello, everyone,

>

> My name is Ann, and I'm feeling a little dismayed at some things I

> read today. At another group, a woman posted a list of medical

> studies, pro and con, about the raw foods diet. One of the

negatives

> was that they found an increase in dental cavities in long-term raw

> foodists.

>

> Another negative from a noted nutritionist stated that eventually

raw

> foodists begin to " waste " . The diet depletes the pancreas' enzymes

> and makes the adrenals weak, which, alon with many other nasty

> things, can eventually make the person's cholesterol levels in

crease.

>

> As I already have pancreas, adrenal, and dental problems, I

certainly

> don't want to make them any worse. I got on this diet because it

> just seemed so right for me. I don't know if I can go back to

cooked

> food now.

>

> Also, a well-recognized macrobiotic book states that too many raw

> foods makes a person slow-witted and hazy. I've been suffering

from

> that since I got on the diet 1 1/2 mos. ago. How long can I expect

> that to last.

>

> Thanks to anyone who can answer.

>

> Ann

 

 

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Ann,

 

On the pancreas. Seemingly the human pancreas is much developed

compared with other species of mammals. This is so that extra enzymes

can be produced to break down the cooked foods. Of course the job is

still done badly as much of the chemistry of cooking still does not get

processed. In fact it often shifts into fat cells which linger around

until they are detoxed out.

 

Thus when you go on the raw diet you give the pancreas a rest and it can

start getting back to the size nature refined it for in the first place.

 

So your noted nutritionist observed correctly when he said that

pancreatic size reduces. That part is right.

 

Very likely that his other objective observations are correct. Where he

falls over is in his subjective considerations are shoddy. I doubt

whether he draw much of a line between a vegetarian who has a cooked

pasta dinner for example and a raw foodist. After all in both cases,

protein meat is absent. A simple vegetarian can easily get into the

mess as he described. We get the flack and feel he is talking misguided

bunk.

 

Human misunderstanding is a rich area.

 

Peter

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Hello to all

I'm new to the list, as well as relatively new to the raw foods movement, but I

couldn't stand to lurk anymore after reading this post.

 

To all the nutrionists and dieticians and everyone who has advice about the

dangers of eating raw food, I would ask them what diet they recommend. It is

very easy to say you shouldn't eat this or that but try getting a positive

recommendation from any of them and see what they say. In all liklihood they

will recommend a diet of " moderation " with meat, dairy, and grains included,

despite the mountain of evidence indicting these foods as a major contributor of

poor health. These " health " practitioners will rarely criticize the standard

American diet but instead recommend vitamins, pills, and other supplements

instead of changes to the diet.

 

I'm sorry to rant but it amazes me how many of these people malign the raw food

diet but don't do the same for diets based on meats, grains and dairy that have

had thousands of studies conducted which more than prove their unhealthful side

effects. If they were to do so, what would be left for us to eat at all?

 

Allan

 

" Radical changes require radical methods " - Raw1811

 

 

 

 

The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

 

 

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Allan,

 

Glad you are aboard.

 

I think that dieticians have to accommodate conventional wisdom to

stay in business which is where they are.

 

Saying the truth would lose them customers so fast that they would have

to close down. Then they would be in an even worst state of

malnutrition.

 

That is the reality so try to be kind to them.

 

Peter

 

 

 

raw agent [raw1811]

26 May 2003 17:38

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: more questions

 

 

Hello to all

I'm new to the list, as well as relatively new to the raw foods

movement, but I couldn't stand to lurk anymore after reading this post.

 

To all the nutrionists and dieticians and everyone who has advice about

the dangers of eating raw food, I would ask them what diet they

recommend. It is very easy to say you shouldn't eat this or that but try

getting a positive recommendation from any of them and see what they

say. In all liklihood they will recommend a diet of " moderation " with

meat, dairy, and grains included, despite the mountain of evidence

indicting these foods as a major contributor of poor health. These

" health " practitioners will rarely criticize the standard American diet

but instead recommend vitamins, pills, and other supplements instead of

changes to the diet.

 

I'm sorry to rant but it amazes me how many of these people malign the

raw food diet but don't do the same for diets based on meats, grains and

dairy that have had thousands of studies conducted which more than prove

their unhealthful side effects. If they were to do so, what would be

left for us to eat at all?

 

Allan

 

" Radical changes require radical methods " - Raw1811

 

 

 

 

The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

 

 

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Hi Allan: Welcome and good post.

Remember nutritionists feed off the system and preach the system using the 4

food groups.

But note that the 4 food group posters are put out by the dairy foundation.

Go figure.

rusty

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" raw agent " <raw1811

<rawfood >

Monday, May 26, 2003 8:38 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Re: more questions

 

 

> Hello to all

> I'm new to the list, as well as relatively new to the raw foods movement,

but I couldn't stand to lurk anymore after reading this post.

>

> To all the nutrionists and dieticians and everyone who has advice about

the dangers of eating raw food, I would ask them what diet they recommend.

It is very easy to say you shouldn't eat this or that but try getting a

positive recommendation from any of them and see what they say. In all

liklihood they will recommend a diet of " moderation " with meat, dairy, and

grains included, despite the mountain of evidence indicting these foods as a

major contributor of poor health. These " health " practitioners will rarely

criticize the standard American diet but instead recommend vitamins, pills,

and other supplements instead of changes to the diet.

>

> I'm sorry to rant but it amazes me how many of these people malign the raw

food diet but don't do the same for diets based on meats, grains and dairy

that have had thousands of studies conducted which more than prove their

unhealthful side effects. If they were to do so, what would be left for us

to eat at all?

>

> Allan

>

> " Radical changes require radical methods " - Raw1811

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>One of the negatives was that they found an increase in dental

>cavities in long-term raw foodists.

 

As so many fruits are picked under-ripe, they tend to be more acidic

and may cause more erosion of the teeth. I have noticed more

sensitivity in my teeth when eating a lot of citrus and especially

when eating pineapple. Like citrus, they are picked prematurely for

shipping.

 

Something I have noticed, which seems to benefit the teeth is the way

I eat my salads. In recent months I have eaten more mono and more

simply. When I eat salad greens without dressings of any kind ( " dry " )

the sensitivity of my teeth decreased! In the past, when I flossed,

it could be painful. Now, I may notice only minor sensitivity. It

seems like my teeth are absorbing minerals directly from the greens.

I have never noticed that when using dressings or oil, etc. It seems

that dressings, etc. coat the greens and the teeth and prevent this

exchange of minerals. (BTW, I usually eat organic mixed baby salad

greens, " spring mix " ) I still eat some mixed (raw, vegan) foods, but

try to eat at least one large " dry " salad a day for the health of my

teeth.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?

 

 

>Another negative from a noted nutritionist stated that eventually raw

>foodists begin to " waste " . The diet depletes the pancreas' enzymes

>and makes the adrenals weak, which, along with many other nasty

>things, can eventually make the person's cholesterol levels in crease.

 

I've been 100% raw for over 2 years and have remained slender

throughout, with basically no change in weight until recently. I

dropped 2 or 3 pounds, now I am putting it back on with more muscle

weight. I've noticed my body doesn't seem to have any need for adding

fat weight. I believe that raw foodists' bodies just work more

efficiently and know what they are doing! Consider just trusting your

body and follow what you believe is right.

 

Regarding the pancreas, like Peter mentioned, it seems that if the

pancreas shrinks or has less enzymes, one obvious answer (overlooked

by most,) is that the body obviously doesn't need them!

 

>As I already have pancreas, adrenal, and dental problems, I certainly

>don't want to make them any worse. I got on this diet because it

>just seemed so right for me. I don't know if I can go back to cooked

>food now.

 

A lot of us have gotten onto this diet because it felt right. Once on

the diet, we try to find what balance of foods is right for us, while

allowing our body to clean out and readjust to a natural diet. It has

been not only decades for many of us, since we ate " naturally " (at

birth, though even that was not " natural " with mothers consuming a

standard American diet,) but perhaps thousands of generations.

" Nutrition " has never been an exact science and even among raw

foodists, there are varying beliefs. Read, listen, and then do what

you body ( & intuition) tells you!

 

>Also, a well-recognized macrobiotic book states that too many raw

>foods makes a person slow-witted and hazy. I've been suffering from

>that since I got on the diet 1 1/2 mos. ago. How long can I expect

>that to last.

 

I had a lot of that even BEFORE going raw. I still have some, but it

seems much better. I suspect heavy metals and other toxicity play a

big part of that. I'm just allowing my body to do what it needs to

detoxify. After decades of improper diet, it may take some time.

 

Jeff

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