Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Hello, I am a newbie to raw foods. Over the past month I have been juicing (mostly vegetables) every day and experimenting with sprouting (both nuts and seeds). I am probably about 70% raw at this time. I have cut out dairy and only have a small piece of chicken 1-2 times per week. My one remaining vice is complete sugar avoidance. I usually have a cookie or a piece of licorice almost every day. My question - I am 31 years old and have been troubled with occassional joint pain and cracking. Over the last few days, the joint problems have increased. My joints are increasingly tender (not swollen) and I have the constant need to releive the pressure by cracking them. Any thoughts? Thanks, Inoah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 First the sugar is deadly: Try a sour[tart] or hot[spicy] substitute for sweet. Second. Raw organic broccoli is a great source of organic MSM which will do wonders for those joints. But you have to eat lots. rusty - " inoah03 " <inoah03 <rawfood > Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:01 AM [Raw Food] Joint Pain > Hello, > > I am a newbie to raw foods. Over the past month I have been juicing > (mostly vegetables) every day and experimenting with sprouting (both > nuts and seeds). I am probably about 70% raw at this time. I have cut > out dairy and only have a small piece of chicken 1-2 times per week. > My one remaining vice is complete sugar avoidance. I usually have a > cookie or a piece of licorice almost every day. My question - I am 31 > years old and have been troubled with occassional joint pain and > cracking. Over the last few days, the joint problems have increased. > My joints are increasingly tender (not swollen) and I have the > constant need to releive the pressure by cracking them. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Inoah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Dear Inoah, Number one: Cut out the cruelty-laden products (chicken once a week) immediately. Why would an otherwise healthy person take poison once a week? That makes no sense. Not only physically, but it's emotionally and spiritually devastating. 2. Don't worry about cracking joints. The old wives tale of causing arthritis is bogus. Crack when you have to. However, the need for this will decrease with exercise. Diet is only 1/3 of the formula for good health. You have to exercise properly and have proper sleeping habits. If you're not regulated, the only benefit for your raw food committment will be the sustainablity of the world, which is great, but your body gets no direct benefit. Exercise! 3. Drink water with colloidal minerals in it between your juice/other meals. This will keep the flow going through your internal organs. 4. Visit a local Ayurvedic doctor and have him determine your type. You may be juicing fruits or veggies that aren't for you, and you may be neglecting ones that are for you. I recommend raw food for everyone, but don't do it whimsically. Just going raw isn't enough in itself. You have to find out what's best for YOU specifically. There are many, many, many foods out there that fall in the category of raw fruits, nuts, grains, seeds, sprouts, beans, even milk, and not all are good for EVERYONE. Some are good for some, others are not so good for those same people. Good luck! Frank - inoah03 rawfood Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:01 AM [Raw Food] Joint Pain Hello, I am a newbie to raw foods. Over the past month I have been juicing (mostly vegetables) every day and experimenting with sprouting (both nuts and seeds). I am probably about 70% raw at this time. I have cut out dairy and only have a small piece of chicken 1-2 times per week. My one remaining vice is complete sugar avoidance. I usually have a cookie or a piece of licorice almost every day. My question - I am 31 years old and have been troubled with occassional joint pain and cracking. Over the last few days, the joint problems have increased. My joints are increasingly tender (not swollen) and I have the constant need to releive the pressure by cracking them. Any thoughts? Thanks, Inoah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Inoah, I read a book on the Green Lipped Mussel of New Zealand. An extract can be found in English health food shops. You might try is. I think I bought the book from Amazon and have passed it on to someone who had a friend suffered arthritis. No doubt their search machine would turn it up again. A good idea to ease in slowly to the raw diet. Clearly you are setting up a sugar craving which suggests you could increase the fruit intake. I know this answer is rather obvious but sometimes the solution to a craving is not so easy to spot until one regains clarity. Peter inoah03 [inoah03] 03 June 2003 15:02 rawfood [Raw Food] Joint Pain Hello, I am a newbie to raw foods. Over the past month I have been juicing (mostly vegetables) every day and experimenting with sprouting (both nuts and seeds). I am probably about 70% raw at this time. I have cut out dairy and only have a small piece of chicken 1-2 times per week. My one remaining vice is complete sugar avoidance. I usually have a cookie or a piece of licorice almost every day. My question - I am 31 years old and have been troubled with occassional joint pain and cracking. Over the last few days, the joint problems have increased. My joints are increasingly tender (not swollen) and I have the constant need to releive the pressure by cracking them. Any thoughts? Thanks, Inoah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 I would add more RAW FATS (avocado, soaked nuts & seeds (sprouted is ok, but try just soaking some for a few hours). For a while maybe some cold pressed flax oil or olive oil. I wouldn't normally consume oils, but for a while it might be a good idea. Try making some raw cookies, then find something to replace the licorice, maybe fruit leather (not store bought). Best of luck Monte rawfood , " inoah03 " <inoah03> wrote: > Hello, > > I am a newbie to raw foods. Over the past month I have been juicing > (mostly vegetables) every day and experimenting with sprouting (both > nuts and seeds). I am probably about 70% raw at this time. I have cut > out dairy and only have a small piece of chicken 1-2 times per week. > My one remaining vice is complete sugar avoidance. I usually have a > cookie or a piece of licorice almost every day. My question - I am 31 > years old and have been troubled with occassional joint pain and > cracking. Over the last few days, the joint problems have increased. > My joints are increasingly tender (not swollen) and I have the > constant need to releive the pressure by cracking them. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Inoah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 It's very important not to have your Omega 6 intake exceed your Omega 3 intake. Avocado, seeds, and nuts provide Omega 6 but you need flax or hemp to provide Omega 3 if you don't eat fish or eggs. Olive oil provides very little omega essential oils but is a good supply of mono unsaturated [good] fat rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 If you have persistent pain you should see an MD. Tart cherry juice is claimed to relieve arthritis type pain. I doubt that it is a raw food because it is available as a concentrate. I find it useful and tasty. It does not taste too tart to me. You can blend it with apple juice if it is too tart for you. Search google for " tart cherry juice " if it interests you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Leave all grain and dairy out. Eliminate corn and corn starch. They cause pain in the body. There is good information on joint pain and diet at www.dogtorj.com. Good luck Nan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 Monte, Thanks. I have been eating plenty of avacado and soaked nuts and seeds (some of each every day). I also try to have at least a tablespoon of ground flax seed. Perhaps the joint pain/irritation will go lessen as I continue on a mostly raw diet. Inoah rawfood , " mavalkyrie " <mavalkyrie> wrote: > I would add more RAW FATS (avocado, soaked nuts & seeds (sprouted is > ok, but try just soaking some for a few hours). For a while maybe > some cold pressed flax oil or olive oil. I wouldn't normally consume > oils, but for a while it might be a good idea. Try making some raw > cookies, then find something to replace the licorice, maybe fruit > leather (not store bought). > > Best of luck > > Monte > > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 A tasty mix is two tablespoons of flaxseed meal soaked in two tablespoons of apple juice and two tablespoons of tart cherry juice. I let it soak for about ten minutes. The soaking definitely improves the taste and texture of the flaxseed meal. I get the flaxseed meal at TraderJoe for $2.19 for a one pound bag. inoah03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 Someone asked what they might do to help joint pain. I bought the book The Arthritis Cure and after reading it bought the 2 supplements it says can help all kinds of joint problems, gout, arthritis, etc and that is Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfates. It worked like a miracle for me. I won't go into lengthy detail, but the supplements are worth taking a look at if you have any kind of joint pain. Prism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Far more important and effective is MSM [Methyl Sulfonyl Methane]. 3 grams twice daily with equal amounts non acidic Vitamin C.[calcium ascorbate]. rusty - " prismkitten " <no_reply > <rawfood > Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:35 AM [Raw Food] Re: Joint Pain > Someone asked what they might do to help joint pain. I bought the > book The Arthritis Cure and after reading it bought the 2 supplements > it says can help all kinds of joint problems, gout, arthritis, etc > and that is Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfates. It worked like a > miracle for me. I won't go into lengthy detail, but the supplements > are worth taking a look at if you have any kind of joint pain. > > Prism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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