Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Hi All, I think the fun part about life and eternity and infinity and the Almighty et al is that we are IT and IT is US. There's no seperate being that is the Almighty. The Almighty is everythingness and we are certainly part of that everythingness. Everything is on the menu- including rawfood, cooked food, organic, non-organic, love, illusion, judgement, acceptance etc. We each choose at every moment what is important to us individually and collectively- either consciously or (as is often the case here on earth) UN-consciously. It's all about levels or awareness really, not right or wrong. To segue back to Rawfood- I'm so happy to have come to the awareness of Rawfood as a way of benefiting myself, other living beings, and the planet as a whole. Wow- quite a trip! Be well. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 David, Thanks for the echo of my thoughts. If the Almighty is not in us, then we are not here! As in Leonardo must be in his pictures. That leaves the enigma of " Leave the judgement to the Almighty " . We are surrounded by the truth. The problem is seeing having the eyes open to see it. Best clarity I can fin is raw foodism. All joy Peter nightowlboy [jaynextdoor] 10 June 2003 20:26 rawfood [Raw Food] Rawfood, Judgement, The Almighty and Us Hi All, I think the fun part about life and eternity and infinity and the Almighty et al is that we are IT and IT is US. There's no seperate being that is the Almighty. The Almighty is everythingness and we are certainly part of that everythingness. Everything is on the menu- including rawfood, cooked food, organic, non-organic, love, illusion, judgement, acceptance etc. We each choose at every moment what is important to us individually and collectively- either consciously or (as is often the case here on earth) UN-consciously. It's all about levels or awareness really, not right or wrong. To segue back to Rawfood- I'm so happy to have come to the awareness of Rawfood as a way of benefiting myself, other living beings, and the planet as a whole. Wow- quite a trip! Be well. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 David, THIS IS NOT A PHILOSOPHY FORUM, ESPECIALLY NOT A *FALSE* PHILOSOPHY FORUM. But you started it, so here's my answer: Your contention that you, I, or any other common living entity is the Almighty is absurd. If you're the Almighty, why do you have to use email to communicate with everyone on this forum? How is it the " Almighty " grows old and dies? Your foolish, childish ideas of philosophy are not supported by the ancient Vedas, the Book of Tao, The Torah, The Bible, The Qu'ran, or any other bona fide religious or philosophical tome, throughout history. Your thoughts are simply the common rants of a madman, and unfortunately, you are not the only such madman to have communicated these false ideas. There has been Sai Baba, Ramakrishna Baba, Maharsi Mahesh Yogi, Vivekananda, Alan Watts, and now you, and all these so-called " Almighties, " got sick, grew old, and died. So the colclusion is this: you are living a fool's life, and you will die a fool's death unless you give up your voluntary blindness. To all others reading this: please forgive me for perpetrating the same thing I accused in the beginning of this letter- using this as a philosophy forum. But these offensive, atheistic ideas needed to be dealt with immediately. Cheers, Frank - nightowlboy rawfood Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:26 AM [Raw Food] Rawfood, Judgement, The Almighty and Us Hi All, I think the fun part about life and eternity and **blah blah**... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 The Almighty being " in us " and we being the same as the Almighty are not the same thought. This should be carefully noted. - Peter Gardiner rawfood Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:11 PM RE: [Raw Food] Rawfood, Judgement, The Almighty and Us David, Thanks for the echo of my thoughts. If the Almighty is not in us, then we are not here! As in Leonardo must be in his pictures. That leaves the enigma of " Leave the judgement to the Almighty " . We are surrounded by the truth. The problem is seeing having the eyes open to see it. Best clarity I can fin is raw foodism. All joy Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Thank you David and Peter! I couldn't have said it better. I'm so grateful for this group, with others who are on the same path. Aloha, Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 --- " Frank \ " Gopal\ " Cohen " <jack-ss wrote:. > But these offensive, atheistic ideas needed > to be dealt with immediately. > Why did they " need to be dealt with immediately " ? I was not offended. Does one have to be Christian to be on this list? Does one have to be Christian to eat raw food? Sally Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Vicki, You're welcome! It's a joyful path, isn't it? Though I seem to have frightened Frank somehow. I hope he finds solice in his " ancient texts " (truly!). Re: Rawfood recipes- does anyone have a good one for ice cream. I've tried a few, but they don't seem to do it. Thanks. David rawfood , vicki wells <tropicmoon@h...> wrote: > Thank you David and Peter! I couldn't have said it better. I'm so grateful > for this group, with others who are on the same path. > Aloha, > Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Frank, I respect your spiritual belief. In addition to that I tend to agree quite a bit with David. It certainly isn't an atheistic belief. We are God's living within a physical realm with certain rules that must be followed. It's not our bodies that are us, but the soul inside. That is the infinite part of us. I know of Christians who have similar beliefs. It depends on how you interpret things. I don't think of myself as all powerful within the physical realm. I do believe in the power to create and attract things with thought. I have seen this proven repeatedly in my life. Anyway, as you say this isn't a forum for philosophy or spirituality. I also think that people can be deluded. Usually it is religion that does this most to people. I don't know if religion has done more good or bad in the balance of history. Politics, science and even raw food can be turned into a religion. We all have to be careful and remind ourselves to continue looking for truth. Many times we can get a certain level of truth and try to defend it. Maybe there are higher levels. This has happened to me over and over again. I thought I had the truth when in fact I was holding on to an aspect of truth. This aspect of truth then became a lie and I had to give it up and admit to myself (at least), that I was wrong. To Truth, Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Your foolish, childish ideas of philosophy are not supported by the ancient Vedas, the Book of Tao, The Torah, The Bible, The Qu'ran, or any other bona fide religious or philosophical tome, throughout history. Your thoughts are simply the common rants of a madman, and unfortunately, you are not the only someone got under someones feathers. I don't know of one, single bona- fide religion. Just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it right or true. Just because some one read it in a book doesn't mean it is true or right either, no matter how long ago it was written. Who are you to call someone childish, foolish, " common rants of a madman " . Look in the mirror bucko, I see only one person ranting. As usual it is the religious type, that gets bent out of shape, starts calling people names, etc. This is the biggest reason I put no stock in religion of any sort, way to many hipocrites. It really irks me when someone says something about being kind and loving for our fellow man, then spouts off like that. I appologize but it looks like someone got under my feathers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 > The Almighty being " in us " and we being the same as the Almighty are not the same thought. This should be carefully noted. ] - There are 2 schools of thought on this. 1] Dualiism [God being a supreme entity outside of ourselves. 2] God being THE supreme entity including ourselves. http://swamij.com/dualism.htm rusty - " Frank " Gopal " Cohen " <jack-ss <rawfood > Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:39 PM Re: [Raw Food] Rawfood, Judgement, The Almighty and Us > The Almighty being " in us " and we being the same as the Almighty are not the same thought. This should be carefully noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Looks like this one is cooling down. It shows me that we are, as I hoped, a broad group held together by raw food. Let us rejoice in the rich variety of opinion that is around. Peter mavalkyrie [mavalkyrie] 11 June 2003 04:41 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Rawfood, Judgement, The Almighty and Us Your foolish, childish ideas of philosophy are not supported by the ancient Vedas, the Book of Tao, The Torah, The Bible, The Qu'ran, or any other bona fide religious or philosophical tome, throughout history. Your thoughts are simply the common rants of a madman, and unfortunately, you are not the only someone got under someones feathers. I don't know of one, single bona- fide religion. Just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it right or true. Just because some one read it in a book doesn't mean it is true or right either, no matter how long ago it was written. Who are you to call someone childish, foolish, " common rants of a madman " . Look in the mirror bucko, I see only one person ranting. As usual it is the religious type, that gets bent out of shape, starts calling people names, etc. This is the biggest reason I put no stock in religion of any sort, way to many hipocrites. It really irks me when someone says something about being kind and loving for our fellow man, then spouts off like that. I appologize but it looks like someone got under my feathers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Looks like this one is cooling down. It shows me that we are, as I > hoped, a broad > group held together by raw food. > > Let us rejoice in the rich variety of opinion that is around. > > Peter > Hi Peter- Looks like Peter has cooled down. It shows me that Peter hopes that he is still welcomed by this group due to his devotion to raw food. Let Peter rejoice in his own opinions. Sorry, I jeeeeeesssssssssst couldn't resist.....Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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