Grain

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Aymee,

 

Basically grain is bird food along with all cereals. It is very rich in

energy and birds have a digestive system to process it. Grain allows

them to flap around, lift off the ground and fly for miles. They have a

completely different digestive system. First they have a gizzard which

helps them grind the grain. Then they peck at and eat grit to help the

grinding process. Sometimes they store the grain in their crops to soak

it so that it goes soft and is easier to digest. Beyond that we know

that food passes fast though a bird sometimes allowing them to eat more

than a fraction of their weight in a day and finally their excrement

comes out white.

 

When humans take on this bird food, they usually mill it for a start.

Still it is not ready so they normally mix it with water and other

ingredients and then bake it or some such. Even then it appeals to

almost none so they put butter or bolognaise sauce or hamburgers or

anything to help it down.

 

The problem is not over because the digestive tract of human being was

not honed on grain. Dr. Douglas Graham gives some details in his " Grain

Drain " . Here, we may observe that the body makes a start on digesting

the processed grain and frequently cannot finish the job. The upshot is

that having failed it just dumps the residue in fat cells and leads to

obesity, a running nose, dirty skin, a whole lot of nervous energy...

 

Grain is bird food and when people tell me that I eat bird food, I

sometimes give them the gist of this message with a note that I

certainly do not eat bird food but that they, by contrast, do... they

then flap about.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

Aymee [aymee]

28 June 2003 19:34

rawfood

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Hi all

I posted an intro about a month ago and have never posted since, But I

have a question for you all. I wanted to know what the deal with raw

grains is. Are they ok to eat? I see a lot of recipes for raw food

requires grains. I was under the impression that grains being a recent

addition to our diet were no good for us per the book " grain damage " so

what is the difference between raw and processed grains? Thanks in

advance

 

We are always one;

always love; One love!

Aymee

 

 

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[Guest guest]

That was pretty good Peter ...

 

As Shelton says:

 

" The contention, so frequently heard, that whole wheat is a perfect food, is a

foolish statement of over-enthusiastic salesmen. A few years ago an

acquaintance of the writer's made an effort to walk from New York to San

Francisco on a diet of whole raw wheat alone. Before starting, however, he

consulted me and I advised him not to try it, but to have an abundance of

lettuce and celery and some fruit in addition to his wheat. He would not hear

of such a plan. Whole wheat is a perfect food and he was going to prove that

one could accomplish such a walk on a whole wheat diet. He didn't get as far on

his wheat as George Hassler Johnston got on his water diet (fasting) before he

discovered that whole grain wheat is not the perfect diet that the " health "

food exploiters and amateur dietitians say it is. "

 

" Take for example, the mush dish of boiled oat-meal, to which has been added

milk and sugar, so commonly eaten. It is one of the worst abominations that

ever slipped down the human throat. It is practically indigestible. No saliva

and no ptyalin are poured out upon such a dish and it may remain in the stomach

for hours, undergoing little or no digestion, before it is permitted to pass

into the intestine. Fermentation is inevitable. Cracked wheat, soaked and

boiled, and then served with milk and sugar, milk and honey, milk and sweet

fruits, is equally indigestible. "

 

" The oatmeal, or cracked wheat or other soaked or boiled cereal does not

undergo salivary digestion, even when, and if, eaten without milk and sugar.

When eaten in the usual combination, digestion is doubly impossible. "

 

" Flaked cereal foods (various types of corn flakes and other such foods) are

much in use. Chemical analysis shows them to be possessed of abundant food

value, though, actually, they are largely charcoal. They are said to be

ready-cooked and predigested. This is a fallacy that the public must outgrow.

They are pressed between rollers at intense heat and are rendered practically

valueless as foods. "

 

" I have repeatedly referred to the dangers of attempting to feed man after

the results of experiments on animals. For, as Berg says, " The same nutriment

has very different effects on different species of animals. " Maize proves

harmless to fowls and pigeons. Rats maintain health on it. It produces marked

polyneuritis in rabbits and scurvy in guinea pigs. Pigs fed on maize die from

general malnutrition. Fowls fed on wheat maintain health while pigs and rats

develop polyneuritis on this diet, and guinea pigs develop scurvy thereon.

 

Says Berg: " The varying reactions of different species of animals to an

identical diet is still a complete enigma, and in my opinion insufficient

attention has been paid to the matter. Speaking generally it would seem that

graminivorous birds thrive on whole grains, but suffer from polyneuritis when

the grain is hulled. In mammals, on the other hand, grain feeding may cause

polyneuritis in certain circumstances, especially in rodents (except for the

omnivorous rat), which are highly susceptible to acidosis. In many mammals,

however, a grain diet induces scurvy instead of polyneuritis; while some

animals perish from general malnutrition owing to the inadequate supply of

inorganic nutriments in the grain. When grain has been thoroughly hulled,

almost all animals, human beings included, become affected with polyneuritis.

Are these variations due to varying requirements in respect to vitamins; or are

the polyneuritic disorders due to the absence of various vitamins which act

differently in different species of animals, or are essential to different

species in varying degree? "

 

This last question of Berg's completely ignores the mineral deficiencies of

grain and the varying requirements of various animals for these minerals. It

completely ignores the individuality of the organization and functions of the

various species. It is enough for us, at this point, that we note the evils of

the largely grain diet and the confirmation of Densmore's earlier claims. While

fowls thrive on a grain diet (this is only true of adult fowls), we must not

overlook the fact that in a state of nature the graminivorous birds all consume

large quantities of green grasses, and even consume most of the seeds or grains

in their green or " milk " state, when they are alkaline and not acid.

 

Corn, while green and still growing, contains almost no starch, but

considerable sugar. During the last two or three weeks of its maturing period,

this sugar is converted into starch which, unlike sugar, is insoluble in water

and therefore not readily fermentable. What is true of corn is true of other

grains.

 

Green corn is not classed as a starch. It ranks relatively high as a

base-forming food. Some of our State Agricultural Experiment stations have

shown that, when green corn is detached from the stalk, it immediately begins

to ripen and will accomplish as much of the ripening process in twenty-four

hours, as it would have done in several weeks, had it been left on the stalk.

So rapid is the transformation of the sugar into starch that in twenty-four

hours, it is changed from an alkaline-ash to an acid-ash food.

 

Germinated grains make better food than dry grains. Grains " in milk, " this

is, before they have been matured, are alkaline foods, but the matured grains

are acid. Fresh corn on the cob, not off the stalk for twenty-four hours or

longer, is an alkaline food.

 

Never before in history have as much cereals and refined flours been

consumed, as in America and parts of Europe, since the perfection of the

rolling mill process in 1879. Bread is consumed in enormous quantities.

Breakfast foods (denatured cereals) are eaten in considerable quantities in

almost every household. " Health " food stores and " health " food factories turn

out more cereal products than all other products combined. The advocates of

whole cereals, in preference to the denatured kinds, did their work too well.

Vegetarians are usually great eaters of cereals. They would receive less harm

from moderate amounts of meat. "

 

I would have to agree with you, grains are best left out of the diet, or eaten

in very small quantities at best.

 

-karl

 

 

 

 

 

:

: Aymee,

:

: Basically grain is bird food along with all cereals. It is very rich in

: energy and birds have a digestive system to process it. Grain allows

: them to flap around, lift off the ground and fly for miles. They have a

: completely different digestive system. First they have a gizzard which

: helps them grind the grain. Then they peck at and eat grit to help the

: grinding process. Sometimes they store the grain in their crops to soak

: it so that it goes soft and is easier to digest. Beyond that we know

: that food passes fast though a bird sometimes allowing them to eat more

: than a fraction of their weight in a day and finally their excrement

: comes out white.

:

: When humans take on this bird food, they usually mill it for a start.

: Still it is not ready so they normally mix it with water and other

: ingredients and then bake it or some such. Even then it appeals to

: almost none so they put butter or bolognaise sauce or hamburgers or

: anything to help it down.

:

: The problem is not over because the digestive tract of human being was

: not honed on grain. Dr. Douglas Graham gives some details in his " Grain

: Drain " . Here, we may observe that the body makes a start on digesting

: the processed grain and frequently cannot finish the job. The upshot is

: that having failed it just dumps the residue in fat cells and leads to

: obesity, a running nose, dirty skin, a whole lot of nervous energy...

:

: Grain is bird food and when people tell me that I eat bird food, I

: sometimes give them the gist of this message with a note that I

: certainly do not eat bird food but that they, by contrast, do... they

: then flap about.

:

: Peter

:

:

:

:

:

: Aymee [aymee]

: 28 June 2003 19:34

: rawfood

: RE: [Raw Food] How much do you spend?

:

:

:

: Hi all

: I posted an intro about a month ago and have never posted since, But I

: have a question for you all. I wanted to know what the deal with raw

: grains is. Are they ok to eat? I see a lot of recipes for raw food

: requires grains. I was under the impression that grains being a recent

: addition to our diet were no good for us per the book " grain damage " so

: what is the difference between raw and processed grains? Thanks in

: advance

:

: We are always one;

: always love; One love!

: Aymee

:

:

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[Guest guest]

Thank you both. That was the only time I have ever heard a thought out,

logical, well reasoned statement about grains! I was a little distraught

with all the conflicting advise I was reading. This argument makes

sense. Especially cause I knew we could not digest the hull of the whole

grains.

-aymee

P.S. what books would you both recommend I read to further learn more?

do you guys do raw meat? If so what is a good source of info for that?

 

We are always one;

always love; One love!

Aymee

[Guest guest]

Don't mistake kernal grain for sprouted grain.

Wheat berries are bad.

Wheat grass is great.

rusty

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...>

wrote:

>

Beyond that we know

> that food passes fast though a bird sometimes allowing them to eat

more

> than a fraction of their weight in a day and finally their excrement

> comes out white.

>

I know this has nothing to do with the topic, but just for the

record...the white in birds' excrement is actuall their urine.

 

Bridgitte

[Guest guest]

Rusty said: " Wheat grass is great. "

 

I can't agree with that more! It has saved my life! With all the " good

things " I've done over the past year or so - going organic, then going

vegetarian, then going vegan, then regular juicing, then doing raw/live (80%

at least) - IT'S THE WHEATGRASS JUICE that has made the most immediate and

noticeable impact in a very, very short time.

 

That's not to say all the other things didn't improve my health. On the

contrary, it all seemed to bring me here and to a real opportunity for

cleansing. But that wheatgrass is amazing!

 

No more depression! and a host of other symptoms gone.

 

Rose