Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Hi, DJ......the easiest things to sprout are lentil beans. Take a handful, put them in a bowl, cover them with water and let them stand overnight. In the morning, pour off the water leaving the beans wet. Let the beans sit making sure they don't dry out. Just sprinkle them with more water as needed and in two or three days they will sprout. By the third or fourth day, they are ready to eat as is or in a salad. They're like little vitamin pills in the sense that they will make you feel noticeably better. Another good food to start with are kiwi fruits. They are the most nutrient dense fruit there is. Have one every morning for breakfast. Because of their high vitamin C content, they will keep your bowels regular plus they are richer in potassium than bananas. Let us know how you're doing.........Betsy - " DJ Evans " <starskygirl <rawfood > Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:39 AM [Raw Food] i need your help!! > Hi, names DJ and I need your help! After much research an mega illness I am going to switch my diet over to raw. > > The problem is that I dont know how to start out, how to stay on this, what exactly to make other than taking food out of the fridge and eating it...I know nothing about sprouting. > > I need all the help I can get so I am asking you knowledgable folks to help guide me on my way here...please.... > > I am 40 and feel 90. If I dont do something soon I may not live to see 45! > > Any tips, recipes, advice you have will surely help me! > > Thanks > DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Hi, DJ. Sorry you're going through ill health. But going raw isn't as difficult or as exotic as it might sound. I would first suggest that you simply concentrate on, say, the easiest meals. Fred and I do the following and we're pretty new at this ourselves: a cut-up orange, a sliced banana, a couple of sliced strawberries; a small handful each of almonds, walnut pieces, sunflower seeds, and pumpkin seeds. That's our breakfast. Then for lunch, we have a huge salad with lettuce, scallions, the same nuts and seeds as with breakfast, sliced tomato, broccoli, and whatever else I feel like putting in. Then I put on some olive oil and either vinegar or lemon juice. And voila! Second meal accounted for. So, breakfast and lunch are pretty easy. We're not 100% raw. For dinner, we have a light stir-fry with rice. We never overcook it and we never eat the leftovers. As far as sprouting goes, get yourself some one-quart mason jars and some cheesecloth. If you have a problem getting cheesecloth, just go to a Wal-Mart and get cloth diapers. They work great! Then go to the following site and follow their instructions, or search the web for others that inspire you. http://www.sprouting.com/homesprouting.htm By the way, there are two ways to sprout - water and soil. Water is the jar method where you rinse and drain. The soil method is where you actually grow seeds like buckwheat and sunflower. It's a little more complicated. Also, juicing could be very, very helpful to you and I would strongly suggest you begin juicing. But the BIG PROBLEM WITH JUICING is that it's VERY concentrated and sometimes it makes one nauseous. But there's a way to get around that. 1. Don't do fruit juices until much, much later on your journey. 2. Don't do all sweet veggies - carrots and beets, for instance. They are high in sugar. 3. I would suggest 3 carrots, 2 leaves of romaine lettuce, 1 stalk of celery. Then fill the rest of the glass with water. You need to dilute that stuff. I hope that helps. Feel free to ask as many questions as possible. Also, it's my opinion that if you start this way, you won't have to even consider fasting. If you can do it, get organically grown fruits and vegetables, especially for the juicing. Best of luck. Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 DJ, Sounds as though you are on the right track. In my own case I simply thought that whatever I had been doing had given me my " major illness with a short fuse on life " . The solution therefore was to change my lifestyle by a 180 degree turn around. And the pistol was at my head because any cheating and would prove the doctor was telling the truth. Let me illustrate with an example. As a smoker of 40-60 cigarettes per day with a track record of 30 years or more and the doctor telling me that smoking was particularly bad with my condition, it really was no problem to stop; even though I had tried and failed dozens of times before. Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet. With that out the way all the other items that have to be cleared out are a trifle. Most people who have a life threatening disease have a dozen or more items to eliminate. I would tend to put them in an order similar to the following: Red meat Refined Sugar Poultry Bread Game Anything cooked Fish, Salt Dairy products Grain Spices Give each a week or so before moving down the list an item. If you hit the lot all in one go you could wind up in hospital with dizziness and all kinds of medical advisors saying take it easy and just eat our pills. You probably will get attacked by cravings. Just make a rush for the pure water or green vegetables. With each passing day you will start to feel better, fatigue will drift away. One morning you will wake up and feel that illness is on the retreat and the medic is just insurance in the background. You are in control of your health. Then get a fresh blood test and start trimming the tablets where it makes sense. E.g. if you have tablets to thin your blood, compare your new viscosity with the old and question the merit of still taking them with your medical advisor. I know that in my case my medic said " I do not know what you are doing but whatever it is, you are heading in the right direction " I had already ditched all my tablets. Obviously, I cannot be specific about your illness as I do not even know what it is and if I did, I am not qualified to pass a medical opinion. I just say that unless you question everything that is put in front of you, you could quite easily be speeded down that road that you are so earnestly trying to avoid. Just stay in and fight. There are those of us who believe that truly incurable diseases are rare indeed. Peter DJ Evans [starskygirl] 02 July 2003 11:40 rawfood [Raw Food] i need your help!! Hi, names DJ and I need your help! After much research an mega illness I am going to switch my diet over to raw. The problem is that I dont know how to start out, how to stay on this, what exactly to make other than taking food out of the fridge and eating it...I know nothing about sprouting. I need all the help I can get so I am asking you knowledgable folks to help guide me on my way here...please.... I am 40 and feel 90. If I dont do something soon I may not live to see 45! Any tips, recipes, advice you have will surely help me! Thanks DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Peter, I'm in transition to rawfoods, but I've been smoking since my 14 and now I'm 37 and I'm must stop with this as soon as possible. It's a priority to me. How did you stop? Please, tell me a way and I'll try very hard. Thanks, Patricia Rio de Janeiro - Brazil (sorry my english;) > Let me illustrate with an example. As a smoker of 40-60 cigarettes > per day with a track record of 30 years or more and the doctor telling me that smoking was particularly bad with my condition, it really was no problem to stop; even though I had tried and failed dozens of times before. > Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Please, allow me Peter. I must tell my story, because it worked so well. Many years ago, I had to use a restroom, and there was nothing else to read but a Readers Digest magazine. Otherwise I wouldn't be caught dead reading Readers Digest, but I must give credit where credit is due. Anyway there was an article about quitting smoking. It was written by a psychiatrist who had developed this system to help his wife quit. To make a long story short I had been smoking for 25 years and quit. Here is the system; you set a date when you will stop smoking. I made mine about 1 ½ months in the future until that date I could smoke as much as I wanted, but I could only smoke alone, and while doing nothing else, no talking, no reading, no sitting on the pot, nothing. (Once again I chose the restroom). The first day my habit dropped to 5 cigarettes a day. What happens is that you get over the habit of smoking. Smoking can be very social and there are social triggers to smoking like smoking after a meal, or while talking, or drinking. You need to adjust to living your life without cigarettes. Then when the date to stop comes, you only have to deal with the addiction. I have not smoked since. That was 1983. I had tried to quit many times before and nothing worked. I also read in another article that if you try to quit and fail, keep trying, and you will find a way that is best for you. Don't ever stop trying. Doug rawfood , " pairoftwo " <pairoftwo> wrote: > Peter, > > I'm in transition to rawfoods, but I've been smoking since my 14 and > now I'm 37 and I'm must stop with this as soon as possible. > It's a priority to me. > How did you stop? > Please, tell me a way and I'll try very hard. > > Thanks, > Patricia > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil > (sorry my english;) > > > > Let me illustrate with an example. As a smoker of 40-60 cigarettes > > per day with a track record of 30 years or more and the doctor > telling me that smoking was particularly bad with my condition, it > really was no problem to stop; even though I had tried and failed > dozens of times before. > > > Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Yes Doug, Do not even worry about the odd lapse. Do not finish the odd deviant cigarette but rather stop at the third puff. Stub it out and if you have to, light up another. This applies particularly when drinking alcohol. In the morning get back to the non smoking mindset. Each person has to find their own way but even the readers digest says that you have to get your mind together to be successful. Of course the same can be said of cooked food. It certainly does more damage on the planet than nicotine and as there is more of it about. Peter kauguy [no_reply ] 03 July 2003 06:10 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: i need your help!! Please, allow me Peter. I must tell my story, because it worked so well. Many years ago, I had to use a restroom, and there was nothing else to read but a Readers Digest magazine. Otherwise I wouldn't be caught dead reading Readers Digest, but I must give credit where credit is due. Anyway there was an article about quitting smoking. It was written by a psychiatrist who had developed this system to help his wife quit. To make a long story short I had been smoking for 25 years and quit. Here is the system; you set a date when you will stop smoking. I made mine about 1 ½ months in the future until that date I could smoke as much as I wanted, but I could only smoke alone, and while doing nothing else, no talking, no reading, no sitting on the pot, nothing. (Once again I chose the restroom). The first day my habit dropped to 5 cigarettes a day. What happens is that you get over the habit of smoking. Smoking can be very social and there are social triggers to smoking like smoking after a meal, or while talking, or drinking. You need to adjust to living your life without cigarettes. Then when the date to stop comes, you only have to deal with the addiction. I have not smoked since. That was 1983. I had tried to quit many times before and nothing worked. I also read in another article that if you try to quit and fail, keep trying, and you will find a way that is best for you. Don't ever stop trying. Doug rawfood , " pairoftwo " <pairoftwo> wrote: > Peter, > > I'm in transition to rawfoods, but I've been smoking since my 14 and > now I'm 37 and I'm must stop with this as soon as possible. It's a > priority to me. How did you stop? > Please, tell me a way and I'll try very hard. > > Thanks, > Patricia > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil > (sorry my english;) > > > > Let me illustrate with an example. As a smoker of 40-60 cigarettes > > per day with a track record of 30 years or more and the doctor > telling me that smoking was particularly bad with my condition, it > really was no problem to stop; even though I had tried and failed > dozens of times before. > > > Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Betsy, thankyou so much for this information. There is so much out there but putting it all together and making it work is a bigger trick. Do I just use lentils that I buy dry in a bag??? dj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thanks Doug. I know I have to do this. I just need some direction. dj - kauguy rawfood Wednesday, July 02, 2003 9:09 PM [Raw Food] Re: i need your help!! Please, allow me Peter. I must tell my story, because it worked so well. Many years ago, I had to use a restroom, and there was nothing else to read but a Readers Digest magazine. Otherwise I wouldn't be caught dead reading Readers Digest, but I must give credit where credit is due. Anyway there was an article about quitting smoking. It was written by a psychiatrist who had developed this system to help his wife quit. To make a long story short I had been smoking for 25 years and quit. Here is the system; you set a date when you will stop smoking. I made mine about 1 ½ months in the future until that date I could smoke as much as I wanted, but I could only smoke alone, and while doing nothing else, no talking, no reading, no sitting on the pot, nothing. (Once again I chose the restroom). The first day my habit dropped to 5 cigarettes a day. What happens is that you get over the habit of smoking. Smoking can be very social and there are social triggers to smoking like smoking after a meal, or while talking, or drinking. You need to adjust to living your life without cigarettes. Then when the date to stop comes, you only have to deal with the addiction. I have not smoked since. That was 1983. I had tried to quit many times before and nothing worked. I also read in another article that if you try to quit and fail, keep trying, and you will find a way that is best for you. Don't ever stop trying. Doug rawfood , " pairoftwo " <pairoftwo> wrote: > Peter, > > I'm in transition to rawfoods, but I've been smoking since my 14 and > now I'm 37 and I'm must stop with this as soon as possible. > It's a priority to me. > How did you stop? > Please, tell me a way and I'll try very hard. > > Thanks, > Patricia > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil > (sorry my english;) > > > > Let me illustrate with an example. As a smoker of 40-60 cigarettes > > per day with a track record of 30 years or more and the doctor > telling me that smoking was particularly bad with my condition, it > really was no problem to stop; even though I had tried and failed > dozens of times before. > > > Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thanks Peter. I am going to try...somehow I will get the hang of all of this and work it all out. IIIit maKes great sense to me I just dont know in what order? I am going to read everything here, and everything I can get my hands on and I will keep you posted. dj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Patricia, 1. make a FIRM decision NEVER to touch a cigarette again. 2. stop smoking 3. do not allow yourself to THINK about smoking at all. The moment your thoughts come to the subject of smoking in any way, do something else, think something else, feel something else. After 2 weeks you will be totally over it. This worked for me. Good luck Shanti At 21:32 02/07/2003, you wrote: >Peter, > >I'm in transition to rawfoods, but I've been smoking since my 14 and >now I'm 37 and I'm must stop with this as soon as possible. >It's a priority to me. >How did you stop? >Please, tell me a way and I'll try very hard. > >Thanks, >Patricia >Rio de Janeiro - Brazil >(sorry my english;) > > > > Let me illustrate with an example. As a smoker of 40-60 cigarettes > > per day with a track record of 30 years or more and the doctor >telling me that smoking was particularly bad with my condition, it >really was no problem to stop; even though I had tried and failed >dozens of times before. > > > Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Shanti, Each to his own but when I gave up smoking cigarettes were on my mind around the clock. Two weeks is the big hurdle but there are others that follow. Peter Shanti Eaglemeare [shanti] 03 July 2003 11:49 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: i need your help!! Patricia, 1. make a FIRM decision NEVER to touch a cigarette again. 2. stop smoking 3. do not allow yourself to THINK about smoking at all. The moment your thoughts come to the subject of smoking in any way, do something else, think something else, feel something else. After 2 weeks you will be totally over it. This worked for me. Good luck Shanti At 21:32 02/07/2003, you wrote: >Peter, > >I'm in transition to rawfoods, but I've been smoking since my 14 and >now I'm 37 and I'm must stop with this as soon as possible. It's a >priority to me. How did you stop? >Please, tell me a way and I'll try very hard. > >Thanks, >Patricia >Rio de Janeiro - Brazil >(sorry my english;) > > > > Let me illustrate with an example. As a smoker of 40-60 cigarettes > > per day with a track record of 30 years or more and the doctor >telling me that smoking was particularly bad with my condition, it >really was no problem to stop; even though I had tried and failed >dozens of times before. > > > Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 The way I quit smoking was I never bought a cigarette again and just started bumming them.after a while I would give my friends 1 dollar for a cigarette (10 yrs ago) I couldn't afford it anymore and I stopped hanging out with them eventually so no more temptation We are always one; always love; One love! Aymee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thanks, Shanti and Peter. I'll try it with a fast on august (my vacation). Best regards, Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Kauguy, I never heard this metod before; I think that if I could do be totally alone for two weeks or just one week, it'll work well. But yesterday, I took a decision: I'll try making a fast on august. Thanks a lot, Patricia Rio de Janeiro - Brazil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Yes, just dry lentils. I buy them at any supermarket in the beans secton..........Betsy - " DJ Evans " <starskygirl <rawfood > Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:53 AM Re: [Raw Food] i need your help!! > > Do I just use lentils that I buy dry in a bag??? > > dj > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Hi You might want to consider a book titled - The pH Miracle - written by Dr. Robert Young and Shelley Young. I've just finished reading it and feel so encouraged. I'm new to *raw food diet* and had no idea how to start. It's all in this book. It's available through www.chapters.indigo.ca where I made my purchase. I highly recommend reading it. Diane DJ Evans <starskygirl wrote: Hi, names DJ and I need your help! After much research an mega illness I am going to switch my diet over to raw. The problem is that I dont know how to start out, how to stay on this, what exactly to make other than taking food out of the fridge and eating it...I know nothing about sprouting. I need all the help I can get so I am asking you knowledgable folks to help guide me on my way here...please.... I am 40 and feel 90. If I dont do something soon I may not live to see 45! Any tips, recipes, advice you have will surely help me! Thanks DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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