FW: Injustice And Abuse To Roz Gruben

July 2, 2003

Hi Folks,

This is a letter from Professor Rozalind Gruben. She and Dr. Douglas

Graham gave two talks in New Jersey at the George St. Co-op and at

Second Nature Health Food Store in Red Bank a couple of months ago or

so. They also speak extensively around the United States and the world

on raw food health and fitness. Please read what happened to her and

maybe somebody can give her assistance in some way. I can’t imagine why

they would treat her the way they did. She is a fantastic champion of

health and will be missed if not allowed to come back into the United

States.

Her message is below.

Roger

++++++++++

Dear friend,

This is a generic letter that I am sending out to all who may be

wondering where I am.

I have just been through the most frightening and harrowing experience

of my life.

On June 25th I was entering the USA in order to travel with my beloved

Doug to continue fulfilling our mission of spreading the Raw Vegan

message. We arrived at Newark airport in New York.

Doug passes through immigration without a problem, but I was taken away

by the immigration police.

For seven hours I was psychologically terrorised, disrespected, abused,

insulted, shouted at, deliberately frightened and treated as if I were a

murderer. They committed slander about my parents, whom they have never

met nor seen. They took my full set of fingerprints and several

photographs. The denied me access to a telephone and refused, for the

most part, to allow me to ask any questions. Their terrorist tactics and

psychological abuse eventually rendered me in such an emotionally

distraught state that I vomited and had severe diarrhoea.

They found a sheet of stickers in my wallet that read 'Don't make a

graveyard of your stomach'. One of the officers (a woman) then asked me

if I was a vegetarian. I affirmed that I was and from that point on

they were postively evil towards me.

I was neither allowed to see nor speak to Doug, who was doing all he

could to free me from my torment. After some hours the police escorted

him off the airport premises telling him that I would not be joining him

and that there was nothing he could do.

They marched me from room to room to be subjected to further insults and

demeaning treatment. I had two sets of photographs of me taken, two

full sets of finger prints and was made to take an oath. I have had

chemicals smeared onto my hands and my personal belongings were raped.

They bombarded me with ridiculous questions such as expecting me to

remember the exact dates and details of my movements going back several

years. When I told them that I did not remember they accused me of

withholding information.

They even asked me the date my library card had been issued of which,

naturally, I had little recollection. In order to avoid being accused of

withholding information I made a guess as to the library card's issue

date and, as it was incorrect, I was then accused of lying.

Regardless of the truth I told them they accused me of lying.

They have taken away my right to ever again enter the USA on a green

'waiver' form. The only way that I can enter in future is with a visa.

They tell me that if I 'abuse' that by coming to the USA as frequently

as I have been that they will also take that away and then I would also

be in 'serious' trouble.

I cannot bear the thought of Doug and I not being together. Nor can I

bear to be separated from the commitments I had made to voluntarily

present and teach at the various raw and Vegan events this summer.

I am not permitted to even begin the process of applying for a visa

until August 5th 2003.

I am very concerned for all the people I will be letting down by not

being there to present. My head is in a spin.

If you are one of the organizers of such an event please do not strike

me from your plans. With help this terrible wrong may be righted. I am

currently working day and night to bring justice to my situation. I

have NEVER stayed in the USA a day beyond that which I am entitled to.

Yet they have deported me on those grounds.

I honestly believe that my deportment is absolutely inappropriate and

profoundly wrong.

If there is ANYTHING that you can offer in the way of help Doug and I

will be eternally grateful.

I have already been deeply touched by the number of friends in the USA

who have rallied round and formed a team to try to get me entry so that

I may continue this vital raw vegan mission. If you think you can help

please contact Gail Davis at VegieGail

The violence and abuse that I experienced at the hands of the INS is a

powerful demonstration of just how sick humanity has become and how

desperately needed the raw vegan message of peace and compassion really

is.

I am currently at my home in England and may be contacted here

(rozgruben) or by telephone on (01144) (0) 1903 746572

I send you my blessings and hope that one day the human race will

transcend their ego based power plays and arrive at a place where

respect and reverence for all life is global and consistent.

Rozihs

July 2, 2003

What terrible impertinence. An explanation or apology should be sought.

Please let us know how it pans out as this should not be the end.

It is too sinister.

Peter

Roger Haeske [roger]

02 July 2003 18:25

roger

[Raw Food] FW: Injustice And Abuse To Roz Gruben

Hi Folks,

This is a letter from Professor Rozalind Gruben. She and Dr. Douglas

Graham gave two talks in New Jersey at the George St. Co-op and at

Second Nature Health Food Store in Red Bank a couple of months ago or

so. They also speak extensively around the United States and the world

on raw food health and fitness. Please read what happened to her and

maybe somebody can give her assistance in some way. I can't imagine why

they would treat her the way they did. She is a fantastic champion of

health and will be missed if not allowed to come back into the United

States.

Her message is below.

Roger

++++++++++

Dear friend,

This is a generic letter that I am sending out to all who may be

wondering where I am.

I have just been through the most frightening and harrowing experience

of my life.

On June 25th I was entering the USA in order to travel with my beloved

Doug to continue fulfilling our mission of spreading the Raw Vegan

message. We arrived at Newark airport in New York.

Doug passes through immigration without a problem, but I was taken away

by the immigration police.

For seven hours I was psychologically terrorised, disrespected, abused,

insulted, shouted at, deliberately frightened and treated as if I were a

murderer. They committed slander about my parents, whom they have never

met nor seen. They took my full set of fingerprints and several

photographs. The denied me access to a telephone and refused, for the

most part, to allow me to ask any questions. Their terrorist tactics and

psychological abuse eventually rendered me in such an emotionally

distraught state that I vomited and had severe diarrhoea.

They found a sheet of stickers in my wallet that read 'Don't make a

graveyard of your stomach'. One of the officers (a woman) then asked me

if I was a vegetarian. I affirmed that I was and from that point on

they were postively evil towards me.

I was neither allowed to see nor speak to Doug, who was doing all he

could to free me from my torment. After some hours the police escorted

him off the airport premises telling him that I would not be joining him

and that there was nothing he could do.

They marched me from room to room to be subjected to further insults and

demeaning treatment. I had two sets of photographs of me taken, two

full sets of finger prints and was made to take an oath. I have had

chemicals smeared onto my hands and my personal belongings were raped.

They bombarded me with ridiculous questions such as expecting me to

remember the exact dates and details of my movements going back several

years. When I told them that I did not remember they accused me of

withholding information. They even asked me the date my library card had

been issued of which, naturally, I had little recollection. In order to

avoid being accused of withholding information I made a guess as to the

library card's issue date and, as it was incorrect, I was then accused

of lying.

Regardless of the truth I told them they accused me of lying.

They have taken away my right to ever again enter the USA on a green

'waiver' form. The only way that I can enter in future is with a visa.

They tell me that if I 'abuse' that by coming to the USA as frequently

as I have been that they will also take that away and then I would also

be in 'serious' trouble.

I cannot bear the thought of Doug and I not being together. Nor can I

bear to be separated from the commitments I had made to voluntarily

present and teach at the various raw and Vegan events this summer.

I am not permitted to even begin the process of applying for a visa

until August 5th 2003.

I am very concerned for all the people I will be letting down by not

being there to present. My head is in a spin.

If you are one of the organizers of such an event please do not strike

me from your plans. With help this terrible wrong may be righted. I am

currently working day and night to bring justice to my situation. I

have NEVER stayed in the USA a day beyond that which I am entitled to.

Yet they have deported me on those grounds. I honestly believe that my

deportment is absolutely inappropriate and profoundly wrong.

If there is ANYTHING that you can offer in the way of help Doug and I

will be eternally grateful.

I have already been deeply touched by the number of friends in the USA

who have rallied round and formed a team to try to get me entry so that

I may continue this vital raw vegan mission. If you think you can help

please contact Gail Davis at VegieGail

The violence and abuse that I experienced at the hands of the INS is a

powerful demonstration of just how sick humanity has become and how

desperately needed the raw vegan message of peace and compassion really

is.

I am currently at my home in England and may be contacted here

(rozgruben) or by telephone on (01144) (0) 1903 746572

I send you my blessings and hope that one day the human race will

transcend their ego based power plays and arrive at a place where

respect and reverence for all life is global and consistent.

Rozihs

July 2, 2003

Hi,

I'll give you 7 reasons why they treated her this way, and will continue to

do so with impunity until we rid ourselves of the Bush/Cheney problem, among

other government agencies run amok:

1. The meat industry- They are well aware that if the logical knowledge about a

simple vegan raw food diet gets out, it's the death of their industry.

2. Dairy and egg industries- Same as above.

3. The utility companies- Think about how much less gas and/or electricity

you'll use if you don't cook.

4. The " health food " people- Imagine if all the vegetarians, or even a good

portion of them, stopped buying fake meats, soy cheese, rice dream, etc. and

just went to fresh fruits, veggies, sprouts, etc. Health Valley, Yves, Light

Life, and all the rest of those pricy folks would be dead in the water.

5. Feminine products- Raw food women don't need make-up because they're

naturally beautiful. They don't need feminine pads or tampons, because their

menstrual cycle is much more manageable, if it exists at all. This goes all the

way down the line to almost all " hygiene and beauty " products.

6. Pesticides and other chemicals- The majority of raw foodists demand organic

produce, rightly so, and this will only get far worse if people were encouraged

to go fully raw.

7. The AMA and ADA- If a larger portion of the populace went raw, diseases would

be cut to an unprofitable amount, as well as dental issues.

So, essentially, it all comes down to money. None of these people have the

balls to re-invent an industrial society to be profitable. These guys can be

lazy, kill people, and still have millions in the bank. And they control our

republican puppets fully. YOU do the math.

-

Roger Haeske

roger

Wednesday, July 02, 2003 9:25 AM