Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Kristi Interesting article, http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/6210618.htm I just want to focus on one point. I agree the term " raw food " throws up the wrong image to a standard eater. On first hearing the term, I wondered about steak tartar, oysters, etc. David Wolfe and others coined the term " Nature's First Food " . Fine for a title but a bit of a mouthful. Having mulled it over I think " Natural human food " would hold on the target of what we eat with stronger tension and meaning. It invokes curiosity, sounds healthy and inviting rather that abrasive. That's my feeling. Are such semantics off topic? Peter. Kristi Swanson [swanson] 01 July 2003 22:50 rawfood [Raw Food] Have you seen this article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Sounds good Peter or how about non bird food, I'm still laughing about your friends flapping around. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Kristi > > Interesting article, > http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/6210618.htm > > I just want to focus on one point. > > I agree the term " raw food " throws up the wrong image to a standard > eater. > > On first hearing the term, I wondered about steak tartar, oysters, etc. > > David Wolfe and others coined the term " Nature's First Food " . Fine for > a title but > a bit of a mouthful. > > Having mulled it over I think " Natural human food " would hold on the > target of what we > eat with stronger tension and meaning. It invokes curiosity, sounds > healthy and inviting > rather that abrasive. That's my feeling. > > Are such semantics off topic? > > Peter. > > > > > Kristi Swanson [swanson@c...] > 01 July 2003 22:50 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Have you seen this article? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Doug, Now, I think of it, in my last version to a friend who accused me of eating bird food, I said that birds eat other birds, eggs and carrion. However they shift these items quickly out of their guts and do not leave it rotting inside themselves for three days or more as does the human does. As we know even carnivores get the meat out in 36 hours on average and they also add in much stronger acids into their stomachs to halt the putrification and other things. As a Gardiner, I know that cat's pee is so acid that it can kill the flowers! Peter kauguy [no_reply ] 03 July 2003 04:58 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Raw or Natural Human Food Sounds good Peter or how about non bird food, I'm still laughing about your friends flapping around. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Kristi > > Interesting article, http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/6210618.htm > > I just want to focus on one point. > > I agree the term " raw food " throws up the wrong image to a standard > eater. > > On first hearing the term, I wondered about steak tartar, oysters, etc. > > David Wolfe and others coined the term " Nature's First Food " . Fine for > a title but > a bit of a mouthful. > > Having mulled it over I think " Natural human food " would hold on the > target of what we > eat with stronger tension and meaning. It invokes curiosity, sounds > healthy and inviting rather that abrasive. That's my feeling. > > Are such semantics off topic? > > Peter. > > > > > Kristi Swanson [swanson@c...] > 01 July 2003 22:50 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Have you seen this article? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Peter; I am reading a book " Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats " by Kymythy Schultze. It's a raw food book for dogs and cats. In the book she refers to " Species-Appropriate " or " Species-Specific " diet. So what about that? It sounds a little mysterious, and very scientific. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Kristi > > Interesting article, > http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/6210618.htm > > I just want to focus on one point. > > I agree the term " raw food " throws up the wrong image to a standard > eater. > > On first hearing the term, I wondered about steak tartar, oysters, etc. > > David Wolfe and others coined the term " Nature's First Food " . Fine for > a title but > a bit of a mouthful. > > Having mulled it over I think " Natural human food " would hold on the > target of what we > eat with stronger tension and meaning. It invokes curiosity, sounds > healthy and inviting > rather that abrasive. That's my feeling. > > Are such semantics off topic? > > Peter. > > > > > Kristi Swanson [swanson@c...] > 01 July 2003 22:50 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Have you seen this article? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Doug, Thus we could replace SAD with SID Species Iinappropriate Diet! Peter kauguy [no_reply ] 03 July 2003 10:06 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Raw or Natural Human Food Peter; I am reading a book " Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats " by Kymythy Schultze. It's a raw food book for dogs and cats. In the book she refers to " Species-Appropriate " or " Species-Specific " diet. So what about that? It sounds a little mysterious, and very scientific. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Kristi > > Interesting article, http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/6210618.htm > > I just want to focus on one point. > > I agree the term " raw food " throws up the wrong image to a standard > eater. > > On first hearing the term, I wondered about steak tartar, oysters, etc. > > David Wolfe and others coined the term " Nature's First Food " . Fine for > a title but > a bit of a mouthful. > > Having mulled it over I think " Natural human food " would hold on the > target of what we > eat with stronger tension and meaning. It invokes curiosity, sounds > healthy and inviting rather that abrasive. That's my feeling. > > Are such semantics off topic? > > Peter. > > > > > Kristi Swanson [swanson@c...] > 01 July 2003 22:50 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Have you seen this article? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 rawfood , kauguy <no_reply> wrote: > > Peter; > I am reading a book " Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats " by Kymythy > Schultze. It's a raw food book for dogs and cats. In the book she > refers to " Species-Appropriate " or " Species-Specific " diet. So what > about that? It sounds a little mysterious, and very scientific. > I have my cats on raw food (not the same raw food that I eat). They've never been happier, healhier, or more full of energy. I'd never go back to even canned food for them - cooked food is just as detrimental to their health as it is to ours. Bridgitte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Brigitte, I ponder my point about the acid cat pee. The gardener who complained about my cats came from a great house and was highly qualified. That said, my cats were fed on tinned food with cat biscuits. This was some 20 years ago. The dogs did not give the same problem to the flowers. However most of the animals died of cancer in the end. It may be that cats eating fresh meat and no junk biscuits expectorate more favourably towards the flowers. Now I think it should be easy to campaign that feeding treated food to animals should be banned. Bones can be bought from the butcher cheap enough... .... the animals would not complain. Their health would improve, vetinary bills would go down, the loss of cherished pets would be postponed and at least junk food would be shifted out of pet food. Peter Bridgitte [syndactylcat] 03 July 2003 15:53 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Raw or Natural Human Food rawfood , kauguy <no_reply> wrote: > > Peter; > I am reading a book " Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats " by Kymythy > Schultze. It's a raw food book for dogs and cats. In the book she > refers to " Species-Appropriate " or " Species-Specific " diet. So what > about that? It sounds a little mysterious, and very scientific. > I have my cats on raw food (not the same raw food that I eat). They've never been happier, healhier, or more full of energy. I'd never go back to even canned food for them - cooked food is just as detrimental to their health as it is to ours. Bridgitte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 I feed 12 dogs and 3 cats raw food. I have seen miracls occur! No joke! Samantha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Hi, Samantha.......I have 3 kitty cats and would love to get them off the processed, chemical-ridden canned food. Please tell me specifically what you feed your fur folks........(I want to see miracles, too).......Betsy Samantha wrote: - <chinaeskimo <rawfood > Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:24 PM Re: [Raw Food] Re: Raw or Natural Human Food > I feed 12 dogs and 3 cats raw food. I have seen miracls occur! > No joke! > > Samantha > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Well, please share, WHAT do you feed them? We have a 6-month old puppy and I'd like to see her grow up strong and live a long time. Also, I have three young children--if she eats raw will she become more aggressive? Cathe I feed 12 dogs and 3 cats raw food. I have seen miracls occur! No joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Brigitte, > > I ponder my point about the acid cat pee. Growing up, we had ficus trees in the house, and they were forever dying because the cats loved to pee in the pots. Nature's First Law (the book) has a section about the physiological differences between carnivores, herbavores and humans - carnivores are the only ones who's urine is acid. > > Now I think it should be easy to campaign that feeding treated food > to animals should be banned. Bones can be bought from the butcher > cheap enough... Agreed. But you (well, me actually) can't tell someone who feeds their cat dry kibble that it's the worst thing in the world for them. This is because breeders and conventional vets recommend it because of it's low ash content, but most cats who eat it are obese and end up with urinary tract disease. There are companies who make and package raw food for animals. They're all organic and well balanced. The one I feed mine (by Amore) has chicken (meat, bones, heart and liver), carrots, yams, squash, parsnips, egg yolk, a glandular supplement, salmon oil and kelp. It's fairly expensive ($2.79/100g),and a little trying to transition one of them, but *so* worth it. There are also many recipes online so that you can make your own at home. I'm hoping that logic eventually takes over and people will start understanding that when it comes to nutrition, whether for humans or companion animals, listening to nature instead of science is the way to go. Bridgitte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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