Food combining

[Guest guest]

Rose,

 

When browsing over your posts I often think that you mix thing

up far more than is optimal. I have in mind our primitive ancestor

who would feast at the berry bush then move on to the wild celery

patch an hour or two later. Even children like to eat all of one

item on the plate before moving on to the next. Each food requires

different digestive chemistry and mixing thing up means a mass of

digestive

juices coming out which is less than ideal

 

Frederic Patenaude in his Raw Secrets has a lot to say about food

combining.

 

On the other hand we are all different.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

Rose and Fred Lieberman [pyrite]

08 July 2003 01:49

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] new

 

 

 

Tim asked: " Is this proper food combining? "

 

Tim, I have no idea. But intuition and muscle testing tell me the

combination works. I've noticed that when something is right with what

we're eating, I'll know it pretty quickly. Usually, the smell will make

me sick or it just won't go down.

 

Please elaborate on what is proper food combining. I know there are

various schools of thought on this - macrobiotic, whole protein, etc.

 

Thanks,

 

Rose

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Rose:

For food combining info Herbert Shelton and the original Natural Hygiene

movement. The Diamonds, " Fit for Life. " The modern day Natural Hygiene

people do not place as much emphasis on food combining as the old guard.

Rusty said it earlier in a post. Do not combine proteins with starches, do

not combine protein or starches with fruit. To really finetune do not even

combine acid fruit with sweet fruits, but that is probably stratching it.

The www.anhs.org (now called the national health association)website has

all the old Shelton and gang books fairly inexpensively.

 

Rob

[Guest guest]

I just checked the ANHS website and they no longer show the Herbert Shelton

library as they used to. I didn't dig too deeply though. A search on Natural

Hygiene in google should do it though. Combining is based on the fact that

different digestive juices are triggered by different foods and may be

antagonists in the body.

 

Rob

 

 

> Rose:

> For food combining info Herbert Shelton and the original Natural Hygiene

> movement. The Diamonds, " Fit for Life. " The modern day Natural Hygiene

> people do not place as much emphasis on food combining as the old guard.

> Rusty said it earlier in a post. Do not combine proteins with starches, do

> not combine protein or starches with fruit. To really finetune do not even

> combine acid fruit with sweet fruits, but that is probably stratching it.

> The www.anhs.org (now called the national health association)website has

> all the old Shelton and gang books fairly inexpensively.

>

> Rob

[Guest guest]

Peter, can you tell me what the real science is on food combining? I don't

think I'm up for another caveman scenario.

 

Thanks,

 

Rose

[Guest guest]

Rose,

 

The basic thesis is not to mix the acid with the alkaline.

In a nutshell, Rusty has fairly spelled it out in a post earlier

today.

 

Most books raw food have something to say on the subject. Raw Secrets

by Frederic Patenaude is excellent for instance. Then Sunfood Diet

Success System

by David Wolfe is trail blazing on raw foodism. It is good to read from

such

people.

 

I am a bad person to advise you on food combining as I do so little of

it myself.

My family laugh at the lack of variety in my diet occasionally asking me

whether

I suffer from boredom with what I eat. Humans are generally obsessed

with variety

in their diets. I rather favour, eating a wholesome fruit and vegetable

on its own

and then letting the body do the extraction without being confused by a

multitude

of signals asking it to set up digest for upwards of half a dozen

different ingredients.

 

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

Rose and Fred Lieberman [pyrite]

08 July 2003 16:15

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Food combining

 

 

 

Peter, can you tell me what the real science is on food combining? I

don't think I'm up for another caveman scenario.

 

Thanks,

 

Rose

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter,

 

We really do not know what cave people did. When we read what the scientists

wrote about that time period, they are always using words like " could, probably,

may have... " because they do not know. " It seems like, it appears that " are

other terms used. When I taught Astronomy at Mercy College, the 1000 page

textbook was full of those words. My lessons emphasized what we do know and

what is theoretical. In science, most of what we read is theoretical.

 

There is a great myth about combining foods. One chemistry does not interfere

with the other chemistry. For example, protein at each meal is more preferable

than protein at one meal and not at the other meal. Protein signals the stomach

to produce hydrochloric acid. Hydrochloric acid is important to initiate

protein digestion, extract the minerals from the foods, and to destroy the

microorganisms.

 

Guyton's Medical Physiology is a great book to read to understand the digestive

process.

 

Try reading the original experiments and you will see how flawed they are.

Exposure to fluoride, chlorine, pesticides, even fumigants can invalidate the

results of any experiment. Each of these items interfere with specific enzyme

function and nerve transmission.

 

Fred

 

Peter Gardiner <petergardiner wrote:

 

 

Rose,

 

When browsing over your posts I often think that you mix thing

up far more than is optimal. I have in mind our primitive ancestor

who would feast at the berry bush then move on to the wild celery

patch an hour or two later. Even children like to eat all of one

item on the plate before moving on to the next. Each food requires

different digestive chemistry and mixing thing up means a mass of

digestive

juices coming out which is less than ideal

 

Frederic Patenaude in his Raw Secrets has a lot to say about food

combining.

 

On the other hand we are all different.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

Rose and Fred Lieberman [pyrite]

08 July 2003 01:49

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] new

 

 

 

Tim asked: " Is this proper food combining? "

 

Tim, I have no idea. But intuition and muscle testing tell me the

combination works. I've noticed that when something is right with what

we're eating, I'll know it pretty quickly. Usually, the smell will make

me sick or it just won't go down.

 

Please elaborate on what is proper food combining. I know there are

various schools of thought on this - macrobiotic, whole protein, etc.

 

Thanks,

 

Rose

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

We lost touch with our natural instincts. Do you see any other life on earth

reading books on how to combine food? After being on raw food for a while my

body just knows that it doesn't want to combine Protien with starches, or fruits

with other foods, exc. I It doesn't take a research scientist to know what

to eat . learn to trust your own instincts. your body is your own best teacher

it will tell you if you are doing the right or wrong thing. Just learn to

listen.

[Guest guest]

Fred,

 

I tend to agree with you about cave people. We do not know lot about

them. The more recent ones were meat eaters for sure. As I said earlier

today, I am a bad person to speak to about combining food as I do very

little of it. The only detected mineral deficiency I have had has been

in zinc which I am fixing. Thus it would seem that one can get by

without having protein at each meal.

 

Some fruits pass through the stomach quite quickly, so frequently in the

morning I change fruit at hourly intervals.

Thus there is no real meal. Some argue that it is better not to nibble

in such a manner. I have very low insulin levels and do not feel

exercised in my mind about the odd bit of nibbling.

 

Thanks for the tip on understanding the digestive process. Is Guyton a

Raw Foodist?

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

fred lieberman [fred_lieberman]

08 July 2003 18:03

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Food combining

 

 

 

Hi Peter,

 

We really do not know what cave people did. When we read what the

scientists wrote about that time period, they are always using words

like " could, probably, may have... " because they do not know. " It seems

like, it appears that " are other terms used. When I taught Astronomy at

Mercy College, the 1000 page textbook was full of those words. My

lessons emphasized what we do know and what is theoretical. In science,

most of what we read is theoretical.

 

There is a great myth about combining foods. One chemistry does not

interfere with the other chemistry. For example, protein at each meal

is more preferable than protein at one meal and not at the other meal.

Protein signals the stomach to produce hydrochloric acid. Hydrochloric

acid is important to initiate protein digestion, extract the minerals

from the foods, and to destroy the microorganisms.

 

Guyton's Medical Physiology is a great book to read to understand the

digestive process.

 

Try reading the original experiments and you will see how flawed they

are. Exposure to fluoride, chlorine, pesticides, even fumigants can

invalidate the results of any experiment. Each of these items interfere

with specific enzyme function and nerve transmission.

 

Fred

 

Peter Gardiner <petergardiner wrote:

 

 

Rose,

 

When browsing over your posts I often think that you mix thing up far

more than is optimal. I have in mind our primitive ancestor who would

feast at the berry bush then move on to the wild celery patch an hour or

two later. Even children like to eat all of one item on the plate

before moving on to the next. Each food requires different digestive

chemistry and mixing thing up means a mass of digestive juices coming

out which is less than ideal

 

Frederic Patenaude in his Raw Secrets has a lot to say about food

combining.

 

On the other hand we are all different.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

Rose and Fred Lieberman [pyrite]

08 July 2003 01:49

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] new

 

 

 

Tim asked: " Is this proper food combining? "

 

Tim, I have no idea. But intuition and muscle testing tell me the

combination works. I've noticed that when something is right with what

we're eating, I'll know it pretty quickly. Usually, the smell will make

me sick or it just won't go down.

 

Please elaborate on what is proper food combining. I know there are

various schools of thought on this - macrobiotic, whole protein, etc.

 

Thanks,

 

Rose

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Do you see other life reading at all?

 

 

rawfood , Patty Foley <livingenergy2002>

wrote:

> We lost touch with our natural instincts. Do you see any other

life on earth reading books on how to combine food? After being on

raw food for a while my body just knows that it doesn't want to

combine Protien with starches, or fruits with other foods, exc. I

It doesn't take a research scientist to know what to eat . learn to

trust your own instincts. your body is your own best teacher it will

tell you if you are doing the right or wrong thing. Just learn to

listen.

[Guest guest]

Is Guyton a Raw Foodist?

 

Hi Peter,

 

I am not sure if he is still alive. Assuming he has passed on, he was an MD who

taught physiology in medical school.

 

Fred

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

No but we humans like a little theory to back up the practical

 

 

mavalkyrie [mavalkyrie]

09 July 2003 04:07

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Food combining

 

 

 

Do you see other life reading at all?

 

 

rawfood , Patty Foley <livingenergy2002>

wrote:

> We lost touch with our natural instincts. Do you see any other

life on earth reading books on how to combine food? After being on

raw food for a while my body just knows that it doesn't want to

combine Protien with starches, or fruits with other foods, exc. I

It doesn't take a research scientist to know what to eat . learn to

trust your own instincts. your body is your own best teacher it will

tell you if you are doing the right or wrong thing. Just learn to

listen.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-

Elchanan

>Try Raw Food post #29656. Or just

 

<http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/foodcombining.html>

http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/foodcombining.html

 

Thanks for posting that again, Elchanan.

 

My next question (apart from " what on earth are some of those things

pictured?? " ) is, how long would one need to wait after eating a particular

type of food, before eating one that isn't recommended to combine with the

first food? I realise certain types of foods are digested at different

rates, but is there a general guideline to follow?

 

I ask this because I like things simple - I'd rather eat a meal of one type

of fruit, then wait X minutes (or hours) before eating a different type of

food, if I wasn't eating the same food all day. Also because the boy gets a

bit nutty about eating at times, and I want to make sure he's not creating a

bomb in his belly by eating different foods too close together.

 

on a side note - since he's not eating meat with veges anymore, his belly no

longer bulges after a meal (unless he gets into something he shouldn't have,

or has tinned fruit at mum's place). Mum was measuring him for some pants

she's making tonight, and said he's lost 3 inches from his waist, and

started trying to tell me I'm starving him (after seeing him eat almost as

much as a baby elephant consumes, during the course of the day), but the

previous measurement was taken over a bulging tummy after dinner one night.

That's a pretty huge difference on a toddler though, whose " resting " waist

measurement is around 20 inches.

 

Caron