Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 I saw an article in First Magazine about raw diets and I am eager to turn my life around. I am starting tomorrow. I have spent the evening looking at various sights on the raw way of life and I am a bit overwhelmed. I want to be healthy and, as a side-effect, I want to drop pounds (about 70). I have done every diet in the book, including Atkins which made me very, very sick. I am ready to change my life and feel real energy. There seems to be a controversy on different websites about just how much raw to eat. I have seen that you CAN overeat and I have seen suggestions that say to eat as much as you want. Is there a reliable source on this? I have ordered two books so far: " 12 Steps to Raw Food: How to End Your Addiction to Cooked Food " and " Pure and Simple Natural Weight Control " . These should get me started, but I am anxious to start tomorrow. Should I just go to the grocery store and buy a ton of fruits, veggies and nuts? I should mention that I am not a kitchen person and I do not like to get involved in lengthy, complicated preparation of food. Also, is salad dressing okay??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 The odds of you over eating is very small on a raw diet. A simple rule of thumb: always buy organic. Pesticides causes your nervous system to malfunction, so the information your nervous system is giving you will be faulty. Fred SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Congratulations for making the right first step. Going 100% raw all in one go will put you into what we call " transition " and " detoxification " . The latter means a number of minor symptoms may manifest from headaches to mouth sores to mouth biting etc. They will all pass and you will start feeling better immediately. However in this transition period, I felt something akin to hunger or craving. It was simply that my body was checking around for the old poisons. In particular you will get a huge carbohydrate reduction as cooked food is massively packed with them and fats. You can get used to eating far more. E.g. a pound of spinach or dark green leaves per day is recommended by a lot of writers on raw food. To me that looks like four plate loads. I have not read the books you mention. The current rage in this forum is " Eat to Live " by Dr. Joel Fuhrman which I have just read. The good doctor is not completely raw as he recommends eating some cooked vegetables without giving any explanation as to why the cooking or steaming as he calls it should improve those vegetables. I suspect he has that part to please those who think that going 100% is just too much. On the positive side he explains in detail all the woes of a " regular " diet. His book has two versions, one for the US market, and another for the UK market. The UK version at £6.99 is addressed to the slimming market and has the words " Lose 20 pounds in six weeks - safely " . That would have me looking like a Belson victim. In particular, he says you can eat as much as you like of his nutritious foods, i.e. fruit and vegetables, so do not worry about overeating. Peter acalvert [ami] 20 July 2003 01:58 rawfood [Raw Food] new to board and raw diet I saw an article in First Magazine about raw diets and I am eager to turn my life around. I am starting tomorrow. I have spent the evening looking at various sights on the raw way of life and I am a bit overwhelmed. I want to be healthy and, as a side-effect, I want to drop pounds (about 70). I have done every diet in the book, including Atkins which made me very, very sick. I am ready to change my life and feel real energy. There seems to be a controversy on different websites about just how much raw to eat. I have seen that you CAN overeat and I have seen suggestions that say to eat as much as you want. Is there a reliable source on this? I have ordered two books so far: " 12 Steps to Raw Food: How to End Your Addiction to Cooked Food " and " Pure and Simple Natural Weight Control " . These should get me started, but I am anxious to start tomorrow. Should I just go to the grocery store and buy a ton of fruits, veggies and nuts? I should mention that I am not a kitchen person and I do not like to get involved in lengthy, complicated preparation of food. Also, is salad dressing okay??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Best of luck on your new way of life. You will get results almost immediately. Some of those results will be positive, some will be negative. The negatives, as Peter already mentioned, will be due to detox'g. That's all the poisons dumping out of your liver and your cells and coursing through your body on their way OUT. While they're coursing through, they irritate and cause minor problems. If you find it difficult to do 100% right off the bat, don't get discouraged. Many people on this list are probably not 100%. Fred and I are about 80-85% raw and are gradually transitioning to 100%. We've seen AMAZING results so far. I see my hubby (Fred) mentioned organic. Definitely very important. If you can tolerate juicing, do that as well, but juicing can be very intense for the unprepared stomach, so make sure you dilute your juice with half the amount of water. We've found carrot and romaine lettuce a good way to go; but we also add wheatgrass juice. We grow our own wheatgrass. We have found that wheatgrass has been CRITICAL in our healing process, so you might want to ease your way into that when the raw/live lifestyle starts to settle in. Spouts are wonderful and so, so, so easy! There are many sprouting devices out there. Just ask the group and you'll get a bunch of information. Also there's a for sprouting called sproutpeople. A valuable source of information! Overeating? Not very likely. Salad dressing? I use a bottled dressing which is obviously heated beyond " raw " . However, lemon juice and cold-pressed olive oil would be better. I'm sure there are many raw salad dressings one could use and now that you reminded me, I'm going to look into it myself. Thanks. As far as weight loss goes, I've already lost 20 lbs. in roughly three to four months. But I'm not exercising either. I have quite a bit to go, but I figure it will take me a full year to a year and a half to lose it all. But I started this above 250 and now I'm 232! By the end of this month I'll break that 230! I know it's all about numbers. Many people on this list will tell you to forget about the scale. I can't. The diet isn't about weight loss and for me it is ALL about health, but I also want to " see " those numbers go down. Anyway, best of luck to you. You will be changing your life forever! Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Hi, there is a good article here that may be of help http://www.justeatanapple.com/graham_transition.html mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 First, I want to say that I'm grateful to everyone for their positive, supportive input. I've been so busy lately, as everything else in life, things are changing! I'm looking forward to sharing my experiences and thoughts here. I've been getting into making salad dressings. One of my favorites is grinding sesame seeds in a coffee grinder, adding water (I've been using Biotta Sauerkraut juice, so good!) and whatever herbs I have, dill and basil are my favorites. Another delicious one is diluting black sesame butter, delicious, with some liquid. I always put some flax oil in with the salad. For me, the dressing adds the yummy flavor to the salad. I've been getting nut and seed butters from an awesome company, Premiere Organics. The owner, Jason, is a great person, has the integrity we would expect all organic companies would have. I've talked with him when placed an order. Their website is premierorganics.com. Aloha, Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Good for you Rose! It's wonderful that you're making the changes with your hubby, having the support at home and being able to share meals and new things makes it all the more exciting. on 7/20/03 5:17 AM, Rose and Fred Lieberman at pyrite wrote: > Best of luck on your new way of life. You will get results almost > immediately. Some of those results will be positive, some will be negative. > The negatives, as Peter already mentioned, will be due to detox'g. That's > all the poisons dumping out of your liver and your cells and coursing > through your body on their way OUT. While they're coursing through, they > irritate and cause minor problems. > > If you find it difficult to do 100% right off the bat, don't get > discouraged. Many people on this list are probably not 100%. Fred and I > are about 80-85% raw and are gradually transitioning to 100%. We've seen > AMAZING results so far. > > I see my hubby (Fred) mentioned organic. Definitely very important. > > If you can tolerate juicing, do that as well, but juicing can be very > intense for the unprepared stomach, so make sure you dilute your juice with > half the amount of water. We've found carrot and romaine lettuce a good way > to go; but we also add wheatgrass juice. We grow our own wheatgrass. We > have found that wheatgrass has been CRITICAL in our healing process, so you > might want to ease your way into that when the raw/live lifestyle starts to > settle in. > > Spouts are wonderful and so, so, so easy! There are many sprouting devices > out there. Just ask the group and you'll get a bunch of information. Also > there's a for sprouting called sproutpeople. A valuable source > of information! > > Overeating? Not very likely. > > Salad dressing? I use a bottled dressing which is obviously heated beyond > " raw " . However, lemon juice and cold-pressed olive oil would be better. > I'm sure there are many raw salad dressings one could use and now that you > reminded me, I'm going to look into it myself. Thanks. > > As far as weight loss goes, I've already lost 20 lbs. in roughly three to > four months. But I'm not exercising either. I have quite a bit to go, but > I figure it will take me a full year to a year and a half to lose it all. > But I started this above 250 and now I'm 232! By the end of this month I'll > break that 230! I know it's all about numbers. Many people on this list > will tell you to forget about the scale. I can't. The diet isn't about > weight loss and for me it is ALL about health, but I also want to " see " > those numbers go down. > > Anyway, best of luck to you. You will be changing your life forever! > > Rose > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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