Help from Rusty.

[Guest guest]

Rusty,

I read this article right through and am left staggered and confused, being

new to lots of this information. Firstly, our government here in the Uk is

releasing statements saying that the Atkins diet is bad, because it has been

proven beyond doubt that people on high carb diets have healthier hearts and

live longer because of that. I am against the Atkins myself, but I am more

staggered because their reasoning would seem to be utterly wrong.

Secondly, I now need help. You said to read this article before drinking

any more juice. I understood a fair amount of the article as it was well

written, but mostly it seemed to be talking about carbohydrates in grains,

potatoes etc. He even says that he would recommend strawberries in a

smoothy for non diabetics. So, how does juice affect insulin levels? Are

you saying that the fruit juice, being, I suppose, quite sugary is not good?

but then these aren't carbohydrates are they? I feel confused really now,

but what he says about insulin sounds quite sound to me. Please can you

offer help on this matter and also, are oats a grain? I have a raw porridge

every morning is this high in carbohydrates then?

Thank you for any help or further reading you could offer me, as long as

it's put in laymans language.

Love Shell.

[Guest guest]

First Shell:

Thje Atkins diet is too high in the animal protein and permits the Wrong

kinds of fats and the results are oftern kidney problems and/or constipation

or sluggish bowels.

The carb thiing is a 2 edged sword like the fat thing. One side of the sword

works for you, the other side kills.

Keep on the right side. Carbs in their original form, NOT refined.

Now to the juice thing;

One orange or one apple is great food. It gives up the carbs slowly as the

digestion process takes time to separate the fiber and release the fructose

at about the rate your body uses it and no insulin is required. But one

glass of OJ has the fiber removed and is the juice of FOUR oranges and the

sugar release is quick and higher that the body's immediate need so the

pancreas injects some insulin and the excess is converted to Glycogen, which

is stored in the liver and muscles until the amount is greater that the

storage and the excess glycogen is converted to fat by the liver and

Heeeerre we goooo~~~.

Second :Yes Oats are grains and high on the glycemic index. BUT! Brown rice

and Rolled oats are OK if only small amounts are eaten at a time. Like maybe

3 Oz. The Rule is; Most carbs are OK if they are in the original form and

with the original fiber intact. Most, but not all. Potatoes, Yams, and

Bananas etc. are juxt high starch [sugar] dumps. Grains in the sprouted

grain form are OK but once they are refined into flour they as useless as

sugar cubes.

 

Read this brief excerpt from this book. You don't need to buy the book, but

this gives different Doctors' views on the Insulin Resistance thing:

http://www.syndrome-x.com/

 

And here's Mercola* again with some Heart info which brings me to another

thing I was going to suggest and that's Omega 3 EFA. This essential fatty

acid blenced with Some Omega 6 helps your body BURN FAT and is very

important for skin and heart etc.

http://www.mercola.com/2003/sep/6/heart_disease.htm

 

Bsest source I've found is in the refrigerator at your favourite health food

store and it's called " Udo's Choice. "

Take 3 tablespoondful daily. I ude it as salad oil with just a little fresh

squeezed lemon juice. MMMMM!!!!!

http://www.udoerasmus.com/products/oil_blend.htm

If this is not available, get a BLENDED Flax oil.

If you are totally Raw, however, you'll need to 'bump' 3 tablespoonsful of

flax seed in a coffee grinder to crack the shells and eat the seeds to

provide the full amount of Omega 3 daily.

_

So, Which 6 foods from the low glycemic index did you pick?

rusty

*BTW; I used Mercola's stuff for a couple of things because in these cases

he's quoting accurate studies but I do NOT endorse mercola's stuff

completely because he is now in the business of selling his own stuff, like

Salmon oil and grass fed beef. He is defiitely not vegetarian nor raw. He

has lot's of good stuff posted but filter it.

rty

 

 

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" Andy & Shell " <andy.mich

<rawfood >

Saturday, September 06, 2003 3:40 AM

[Raw Food] Help from Rusty.

 

 

> Rusty,

> I read this article right through and am left staggered and confused,

being

> new to lots of this information. Firstly, our government here in the Uk

is

> releasing statements saying that the Atkins diet is bad, because it has

been

> proven beyond doubt that people on high carb diets have healthier hearts

and

> live longer because of that. I am against the Atkins myself, but I am

more

> staggered because their reasoning would seem to be utterly wrong.

> Secondly, I now need help. You said to read this article before

drinking

> any more juice. I understood a fair amount of the article as it was well

> written, but mostly it seemed to be talking about carbohydrates in grains,

> potatoes etc. He even says that he would recommend strawberries in a

> smoothy for non diabetics. So, how does juice affect insulin levels? Are

> you saying that the fruit juice, being, I suppose, quite sugary is not

good?

> but then these aren't carbohydrates are they? I feel confused really now,

> but what he says about insulin sounds quite sound to me. Please can you

> offer help on this matter and also, are oats a grain? I have a raw

porridge

> every morning is this high in carbohydrates then?

> Thank you for any help or further reading you could offer me, as long as

> it's put in laymans language.

> Love Shell.

[Guest guest]

Shell,

 

What has a raw food diet got to do with porridge for breakfast?

 

Staggered and confused

 

Peter

 

Andy & Shell [andy.mich]

06 September 2003 12:40

rawfood

[Raw Food] Help from Rusty.

 

 

 

Rusty,

I read this article right through and am left staggered and confused,

being new to lots of this information. Firstly, our government here in

the Uk is releasing statements saying that the Atkins diet is bad,

because it has been proven beyond doubt that people on high carb diets

have healthier hearts and live longer because of that. I am against the

Atkins myself, but I am more staggered because their reasoning would

seem to be utterly wrong.

Secondly, I now need help. You said to read this article before

drinking any more juice. I understood a fair amount of the article as

it was well written, but mostly it seemed to be talking about

carbohydrates in grains, potatoes etc. He even says that he would

recommend strawberries in a smoothy for non diabetics. So, how does

juice affect insulin levels? Are you saying that the fruit juice,

being, I suppose, quite sugary is not good? but then these aren't

carbohydrates are they? I feel confused really now, but what he says

about insulin sounds quite sound to me. Please can you offer help on

this matter and also, are oats a grain? I have a raw porridge every

morning is this high in carbohydrates then?

Thank you for any help or further reading you could offer me, as long

as it's put in laymans language. Love Shell.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

So where do smoothies fit in? If I throw a banana, apple, orange, and

carrot into a blender, the fiber is still there right?

 

 

> Now to the juice thing;

> One orange or one apple is great food. It gives up the carbs slowly

as the

> digestion process takes time to separate the fiber and release the

fructose

> at about the rate your body uses it and no insulin is required. But

one

> glass of OJ has the fiber removed and is the juice of FOUR oranges

and the

> sugar release is quick and higher that the body's immediate need so

the

> pancreas injects some insulin and the excess is converted to

Glycogen, which

> is stored in the liver and muscles until the amount is greater that

the

> storage and the excess glycogen is converted to fat by the liver and

> Heeeerre we goooo~~~.

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter,

I eat raw porridge for breakfast, using oatgrain soaked overnight in a

little water and not cooked.

Love Shell.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Rusty, for answering my questions. I did see the Udo's

oil, but it is very expensive, so I've gone for the grinding up the flax

seeds instead.

If you don't mind, I'd like to ask something else about the juicing. I

understand about the fruit and the fibreless sugar, but what now about

carrots. Aren't they quite high in carbohydrates too? So, if you juice

them, are you going to get a big wack of carbs, like sugar? and what about

other vegetables too.

Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated, I'm off to read the new stuff

you sent now.

Cheers,

Love Shell.

[Guest guest]

> So where do smoothies fit in? If I throw a banana, apple, orange, and

> carrot into a blender, the fiber is still there right?

-

Smoothies work, but again part of the digestive process, the stomach's part,

has been speeded up, so slow and easy would be the protocol for drinking

smoothies. Toss in some GREENS Powder and some flax oil and make a Super

Smoothie.

Yum.

rusty

-

" M " <mavalkyrie

<rawfood >

Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:03 PM

Re: [Raw Food] Help from Rusty.

 

 

> So where do smoothies fit in? If I throw a banana, apple, orange, and

> carrot into a blender, the fiber is still there right?

>

>

> > Now to the juice thing;

> > One orange or one apple is great food. It gives up the carbs slowly

> as the

> > digestion process takes time to separate the fiber and release the

> fructose

> > at about the rate your body uses it and no insulin is required. But

> one

> > glass of OJ has the fiber removed and is the juice of FOUR oranges

> and the

> > sugar release is quick and higher that the body's immediate need so

> the

> > pancreas injects some insulin and the excess is converted to

> Glycogen, which

> > is stored in the liver and muscles until the amount is greater that

> the

> > storage and the excess glycogen is converted to fat by the liver and

> > Heeeerre we goooo~~~.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Shell,

 

As said before grain is for birds. There is nothing you can do to it

that makes it suitable for human consumption.

 

Peter

 

 

Andy & Shell [andy.mich]

07 September 2003 10:48

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Help from Rusty.

 

 

 

Hi Peter,

I eat raw porridge for breakfast, using oatgrain soaked overnight in a

little water and not cooked. Love Shell.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

>but what now about

> carrots. Aren't they quite high in carbohydrates too? So, if you juice

> them, are you going to get a big wack of carbs, like sugar? and what

about

> other vegetables too.

-

Your right. I personally drink water and eat food, but if one must juice,

use only foods low on the glycemic index and drink small portions at a time:

Low-Glycemic Index Foods: 15s

Foods you can juice.

 

 

Artichoke<15

 

Asparagus<15

 

Broccoli<15

 

Cauliflower<15

 

Celery<15

 

Cucumber<15

 

Dandelion greens< 15

 

Green beans<15

 

Kale < 15

 

Peppers, all varieties<15

 

Snow peas<15

 

Spinach<15

 

 

 

-

" Andy & Shell " <andy.mich

<rawfood >

Sunday, September 07, 2003 1:53 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Help from Rusty.

 

 

> Thank you so much Rusty, for answering my questions. I did see the Udo's

> oil, but it is very expensive, so I've gone for the grinding up the flax

> seeds instead.

> If you don't mind, I'd like to ask something else about the juicing. I

> understand about the fruit and the fibreless sugar, but what now about

> carrots. Aren't they quite high in carbohydrates too? So, if you juice

> them, are you going to get a big wack of carbs, like sugar? and what

about

> other vegetables too.

> Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated, I'm off to read the new stuff

> you sent now.

> Cheers,

> Love Shell.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Peter, I won't deny that this saddens me greatly, but I accept it

reluctantly.

Love Shell.

 

-

" Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner

<rawfood >

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:29 PM

RE: [Raw Food] Help from Rusty.

 

 

> Shell,

>

> As said before grain is for birds. There is nothing you can do to it

> that makes it suitable for human consumption.

>

> Peter

>

>

> Andy & Shell [andy.mich]

> 07 September 2003 10:48

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Help from Rusty.

>

>

>

> Hi Peter,

> I eat raw porridge for breakfast, using oatgrain soaked overnight in a

> little water and not cooked. Love Shell.

>

>

>

>

>

>