Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 hello all, i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Rik, There is a consensus around here that cooked food is a major contributor to cancerous growth. Doctors world wide say eat more fruit and vegetables but generally fall short of a behest for a totally raw diet. There are some well known caveats for certain types of cancer as in avoid dairy for prostate cancer. You may attract specific help if you identify the type of cancer you are aiming to cure. The only pointer I can give based upon experience is that strange marks on my skin have gone since I changed over to a raw food diet. Peter Rik [bliksemskater] 09 September 2003 19:18 rawfood [Raw Food] cancer hello all, i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Rik; I can not give you medical advice, that would be illegal, I am not a medical doctor, but I can tell you what I would do if I had cancer (which I did). Cancer is grows in tumors, tumors are caused by eating excess protein. In the book " Living Foods for Optimum Health " by Brian R. Clement " The Center for Science in the Public Interest reports that the average American takes in about 150 grams of protein each day. But you need only a fraction of that amount, where does the excess go? Well, the body can't store protein, the lymphatic system attempts to remove the excess. But when the burden becomes too great for the lymph to handle protein " traps " (tumors) are created, which the body seals off in order to protect the rest of its organs and tissues, As Nobel prize winner Dr. Otto Warburg showed, when oxygen supply is decreased by as little as 30 percent, these trapped cells can become malignant cancer cells. Warburg found that unlike normal healthy cells, malignant cancer cells don't require oxygen to reproduce, in a sense, the cancerous cells consume waste, saving the body from poisoning by excess protein, but this survival tactic can cause uncontrolled, terminal cancer. " I know that medical science has a large list of carcinogens, but without tumors (protein traps) the cancer has no place to grow. Mothers milk is only 2% protein for a baby that doubles its size and weight in 180 days by the time the child reaches 2 years of age mothers protein drops to 1% which is the same ratio of protein in fruits. The propaganda about protein comes from the meat and dairy industries, not from medical research. All vegetarian animals eat low protein diets, including primates. Vegetarian animals have a longer folded and chambered bowel designed to slow down digestion to allow more absorption of nutrients. The dogs bowel, for instance is a short smooth pipe. Dr. Ralph Bircher claims that a low-protein diet has demonstrated that the body needs 10-20% less oxygen and a 30% lower calorie-intake. This conserves the resources of the body. " High protein diets, on the other hand, tend to accelerate the turnover of protein in the body, put the cells into high activity, and promote stress and premature aging. Cancer is characterized by this rapid protein synthesis. " Intuitive Eating; Humbart Santillo, N.D., Ph.D. Humbart goes on to show how excess protein causes osteoporosis, cancer (all tumors are pockets of protein that the body is trying to get rid of), " Undigested protein must be eliminated by the kidneys. This unnecessary work stresses out the kidneys so much that gradually lesions are developed and tissues begin to harden. In the colon this excess protein-waste putrefies into toxic substances called indols, skatols, and hydrogen sulfide, etc. Some of these substances are reabsorbed into the bloodstream and are eventually found in the urine, These substances irritate the bladder and kidneys, and cause an unnecessary loss of vital energy. " In spite of their short efficient digestive system, carnivores sleep 20 hours per day, have little stamina, and short life spans. A cheetah can run 90 miles per hour. But if it doesn't make a kill, it can't hunt again until the following day. It is estimated that an adult gorilla has the ability to bench press 4000 pounds. The favorite food of the gorilla is wild celery it is less than 1% (.66%) protein. Without a doubt the strongest, most energetic and longest lived animals are raw vegans. The meat and dairy industries are telling us that to build strong bodies we need a lot of protein. The truth is just the opposite. Keep in mind cancer thrives in an oxygen free environment. So to kill cancer I would flood my body with oxygen, and stop eating excess protein. " If you recall your early science lesson about photosynthesis, you'll remember that all plants, terrestrial and aquatic, absorb water and carbon dioxide and then give off oxygen as a waste product., that's why botanical food is composed of oxygen in the molecular structure of its chlorophyll content., chlorophyll is the " blood " of a plant. It is the protein in plant life that gives it its distinctive green or purple color. When compared to a molecule of hemoglobin (the oxygen carrier in human blood) chlorophyll is almost identical. Have you ever thought about what happens to that oxygen when we eat those foods in their living state? It feeds oxygen to our body---the oxygen we need to stay alive and healthy. Only living foods bring that oxygen into the body. " ---Living Foods For Optimum Health; Brian Clement. All the necessary amino acids needed are in raw green leafy vegetables. From these amino acids my body can construct all the protein it needs. I would take Probiotics. I would get a " Green Power " juicer and make green juices not only from wheat grass but from spinach, kale, and any green leafy vegetable I could find. I would drink Spirulina. I would have sweet fruit for breakfast. I would eat a large green leafy salad every afternoon. I would not touch any animal products. I would get the book. " Flood Your Body with Oxygen " by Ed McCabe. I would look in the back of that book and find a person who does oxygen therapy in my area. I would also read the book. I would do deep breathing exercises. I would start an aerobic exercise program. I would be very aware that all of this oxygen flooding into my body is going to cause massive detoxification, which will make me feel sick, I may develop skin problems. My bones will hurt. But I know I can slow down detox by eating cooked food, or slowing chlorophyll intake. Hope this helps rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > hello all, > i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any > experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, > could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > hello all, > i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any > experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, > could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Hello Rik, so sorry to hear about your relative, going through cancer can be very confusing and very scarry for a person. Tow years ago My mother was diagnosed with Ovarian cancer and one week later my father was diagnosed with Pancreatic cancer. Two very different cancers and two very different methods/approaches to their healings. They are divorced and took great pride in who would outlive each other.....they are still both alive happily but one much better off than the other. This is how I got involved with rawfoods. My mother went the surgery/chemotherapy method and is now on her fourth type of chemotherapy drug because the ones prior stoped working for her. She has spent more that $60,000 out of her own pocket that insurance wouldn't cover and thus our inheritance is gone....no big deal really, I'm just glad she is still alive. She has a delivery device implanted in her chest, just above her heart that the chemo gets " dripped " into, made of titanium (which is of course is a huge carcinogenic itself). She goes once a week for her therapy and it takes about one hour for the medicine to be dispensed into her (directly to her liver BTW). She is then sick for 3 days following, which of course requires more drugs to ease the pain and nausea. But she does manage to work 3 days a week somehow... Then there's my father.... He went directly to the Livingston-Wheeler clinic in Mexico for one week every month for 6 months. He has been in remission ever since. I don't think anyone would consider this method a cure-all, however, it's worth reading the book, Conquest of Cancer. It was first originally published in the seventies I believe, by Dr. Virginia Livingston-Wheeler. My dad sent me the book while he was in Mexico so I could read it and know what he was going through. In her book she gives very detailed information about how cancer develops and how to treat it. It's an easy read with about 250 pages and for the most part understandable (mind you I'm not formally educated, other than high school and trade school), I found it to be the best book anyone gave us, as we all went through this. In her book, Dr. Virginia describes the " Anti-Cancer Diet " : " Living food, meaning non-processed, fresh vegetables and fruits with their seeds and nuts, contain all the essentials for good health and good immunity. It is one of the most overlooked preventive medicine resources we have. When food is processed, altered, or adulterated, the health and life-giving factors are markedly diminished. Processed foods provide calories, but they cannot sustain other needs that can only be met by living foods. One of the most vital systems of the body that cannot be sustanined by devitalized, dead food is the immune system. " she continues.... " As there is no single essential food, one of the most important goals of good nutrition is to be aware that whole foods, nearest to their natural state, are best able to supply the essental nutrients for the highest state of well-being " I hope this helps, this is just our experience with Cancer, so far. Good luck and I hope you have success with whatever therapy your family decides on. Kris Costa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Kauguy, I have been trying to balance my life for years and I've gone down the hi-protein highway. My primary concern (when it comes to energy) was the glycemic spike I encountered when I was eating a Vegan diet.I was " crashing " after meals. I have no irrefutable advice for our friend that has been diagnosed with cancer, but for me, the thing that works best is limiting calories, moving a lot and taking everything in moderation On a Raw Foods diet, I have recently lost a lot of weight. I am 5'11 and now weigh about 145 lbs. To me, although I feel great, I'm way too skinny and (although I don't have cancer,) I feel like I'm wasting away and I don't feel (or look) as strong as I did when I was eating 70-100g. of protein per day. I'm starting to feel like the hi-protein approach is one extreme and the Raw Food approach is another. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS on how build back up to my " fighting weight " of 170 with Raw Foods. I like how I feel, but don't like how I look - I'd rather look like an athlete than a super model. Brian Powell allGoode Organics 215-242-1133 - office 215-313-6927 - cell brian kauguy [no_reply ] Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:35 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: cancer Rik; I can not give you medical advice, that would be illegal, I am not a medical doctor, but I can tell you what I would do if I had cancer (which I did). Cancer is grows in tumors, tumors are caused by eating excess protein. In the book " Living Foods for Optimum Health " by Brian R. Clement " The Center for Science in the Public Interest reports that the average American takes in about 150 grams of protein each day. But you need only a fraction of that amount, where does the excess go? Well, the body can't store protein, the lymphatic system attempts to remove the excess. But when the burden becomes too great for the lymph to handle protein " traps " (tumors) are created, which the body seals off in order to protect the rest of its organs and tissues, As Nobel prize winner Dr. Otto Warburg showed, when oxygen supply is decreased by as little as 30 percent, these trapped cells can become malignant cancer cells. Warburg found that unlike normal healthy cells, malignant cancer cells don't require oxygen to reproduce, in a sense, the cancerous cells consume waste, saving the body from poisoning by excess protein, but this survival tactic can cause uncontrolled, terminal cancer. " I know that medical science has a large list of carcinogens, but without tumors (protein traps) the cancer has no place to grow. Mothers milk is only 2% protein for a baby that doubles its size and weight in 180 days by the time the child reaches 2 years of age mothers protein drops to 1% which is the same ratio of protein in fruits. The propaganda about protein comes from the meat and dairy industries, not from medical research. All vegetarian animals eat low protein diets, including primates. Vegetarian animals have a longer folded and chambered bowel designed to slow down digestion to allow more absorption of nutrients. The dogs bowel, for instance is a short smooth pipe. Dr. Ralph Bircher claims that a low-protein diet has demonstrated that the body needs 10-20% less oxygen and a 30% lower calorie-intake. This conserves the resources of the body. " High protein diets, on the other hand, tend to accelerate the turnover of protein in the body, put the cells into high activity, and promote stress and premature aging. Cancer is characterized by this rapid protein synthesis. " Intuitive Eating; Humbart Santillo, N.D., Ph.D. Humbart goes on to show how excess protein causes osteoporosis, cancer (all tumors are pockets of protein that the body is trying to get rid of), " Undigested protein must be eliminated by the kidneys. This unnecessary work stresses out the kidneys so much that gradually lesions are developed and tissues begin to harden. In the colon this excess protein-waste putrefies into toxic substances called indols, skatols, and hydrogen sulfide, etc. Some of these substances are reabsorbed into the bloodstream and are eventually found in the urine, These substances irritate the bladder and kidneys, and cause an unnecessary loss of vital energy. " In spite of their short efficient digestive system, carnivores sleep 20 hours per day, have little stamina, and short life spans. A cheetah can run 90 miles per hour. But if it doesn't make a kill, it can't hunt again until the following day. It is estimated that an adult gorilla has the ability to bench press 4000 pounds. The favorite food of the gorilla is wild celery it is less than 1% (.66%) protein. Without a doubt the strongest, most energetic and longest lived animals are raw vegans. The meat and dairy industries are telling us that to build strong bodies we need a lot of protein. The truth is just the opposite. Keep in mind cancer thrives in an oxygen free environment. So to kill cancer I would flood my body with oxygen, and stop eating excess protein. " If you recall your early science lesson about photosynthesis, you'll remember that all plants, terrestrial and aquatic, absorb water and carbon dioxide and then give off oxygen as a waste product., that's why botanical food is composed of oxygen in the molecular structure of its chlorophyll content., chlorophyll is the " blood " of a plant. It is the protein in plant life that gives it its distinctive green or purple color. When compared to a molecule of hemoglobin (the oxygen carrier in human blood) chlorophyll is almost identical. Have you ever thought about what happens to that oxygen when we eat those foods in their living state? It feeds oxygen to our body---the oxygen we need to stay alive and healthy. Only living foods bring that oxygen into the body. " ---Living Foods For Optimum Health; Brian Clement. All the necessary amino acids needed are in raw green leafy vegetables. From these amino acids my body can construct all the protein it needs. I would take Probiotics. I would get a " Green Power " juicer and make green juices not only from wheat grass but from spinach, kale, and any green leafy vegetable I could find. I would drink Spirulina. I would have sweet fruit for breakfast. I would eat a large green leafy salad every afternoon. I would not touch any animal products. I would get the book. " Flood Your Body with Oxygen " by Ed McCabe. I would look in the back of that book and find a person who does oxygen therapy in my area. I would also read the book. I would do deep breathing exercises. I would start an aerobic exercise program. I would be very aware that all of this oxygen flooding into my body is going to cause massive detoxification, which will make me feel sick, I may develop skin problems. My bones will hurt. But I know I can slow down detox by eating cooked food, or slowing chlorophyll intake. Hope this helps rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > hello all, > i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any > experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, > could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 rawfood , " Rik " wrote: > does anyone have any experience tackling cancer > with herbal/raw food methods? if so, could you > give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Hello Rik, I can give you some articles to read on cancer. I don't agree with everything in the articles but they contain good info. http://www.geocities.com/viktoraslive/reports.htm " THE SURVIVAL MECHANISM WE CALL CANCER " By Viktoras Kulvinskas (Viktoras is co-founder of the Hippocrates Health Institute. Victoras writes in one of his books that Hippocrates has a 75% success rate at treating cancer, the best in the world. I could give you the exact quote if you'd like. http://www.hippocratesinst.com/history.html http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/ask_cancer.html http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/cancer_broch.html Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 thank you mike, i appriciate this very much, i will forward this to my family. rik > Hello Rik, > > I can give you some articles to read on cancer. I don't agree with > everything in the articles but they contain good info. > > http://www.geocities.com/viktoraslive/reports.htm > " THE SURVIVAL MECHANISM WE CALL CANCER " > By Viktoras Kulvinskas > (Viktoras is co-founder of the Hippocrates Health Institute. Victoras > writes in one of his books that Hippocrates has a 75% success rate at > treating cancer, the best in the world. I could give you the exact > quote if you'd like. > http://www.hippocratesinst.com/history.html > > > http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/ask_cancer.html > http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/cancer_broch.html > > Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Brian We carry a lot of poisons in our fat cells. Your body has to lose the fat to get rid of the poisons. When you finish detoxifying your weight will stabilize. But as long as you are raw you will never be fat. Doug rawfood , " Brian Powell " <brianmpowell@e...> wrote: > Kauguy, I have been trying to balance my life for years and I've gone > down the hi-protein highway. My primary concern (when it comes to > energy) was the glycemic spike I encountered when I was eating a Vegan > diet.I was " crashing " after meals. I have no irrefutable advice for our > friend that has been diagnosed with cancer, but for me, the thing that > works best is limiting calories, moving a lot and taking everything in > moderation > > > > On a Raw Foods diet, I have recently lost a lot of weight. I am 5'11 > and now weigh about 145 lbs. To me, although I feel great, I'm way too > skinny and (although I don't have cancer,) I feel like I'm wasting away > and I don't feel (or look) as strong as I did when I was eating 70- 100g. > of protein per day. > > > > I'm starting to feel like the hi-protein approach is one extreme and the > Raw Food approach is another. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS on how build > back up to my " fighting weight " of 170 with Raw Foods. I like how I > feel, but don't like how I look - I'd rather look like an athlete than a > super model. > > > > Brian Powell > > allGoode Organics > > 215-242-1133 - office > > 215-313-6927 - cell > > brian@a... > > > > > kauguy [no_reply ] > Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:35 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: cancer > > > > Rik; > I can not give you medical advice, that would be illegal, I am not a > medical doctor, but I can tell you what I would do if I had cancer > (which I did). > > Cancer is grows in tumors, tumors are caused by eating excess > protein. In the book " Living Foods for Optimum Health " by Brian R. > Clement " The Center for Science in the Public Interest reports that > the average American takes in about 150 grams of protein each day. > But you need only a fraction of that amount, where does the excess > go? Well, the body can't store protein, the lymphatic system attempts > to remove the excess. But when the burden becomes too great for the > lymph to handle protein " traps " (tumors) are created, which the body > seals off in > order to protect the rest of its organs and tissues, As Nobel prize > winner Dr. Otto Warburg showed, when oxygen supply is decreased by as > little as 30 percent, these trapped cells can become malignant cancer > cells. Warburg found that unlike normal healthy cells, malignant > cancer cells don't require oxygen to reproduce, in a sense, the > cancerous cells consume waste, saving the body from poisoning by > excess protein, but this survival tactic can cause uncontrolled, > terminal cancer. " I know that medical science has a large list of > carcinogens, but without tumors (protein traps) the cancer has no > place to grow. Mothers milk is only 2% protein for a baby that > doubles its size and weight in 180 days by the time the child reaches > 2 years of age mothers protein drops to 1% which is the same ratio of > protein in fruits. > > The propaganda about protein comes from the meat and dairy > industries, not from medical research. All vegetarian animals eat low > protein diets, including primates. Vegetarian animals have a longer > folded and chambered bowel designed to slow down digestion to allow > more absorption of nutrients. The dogs bowel, for instance is a short > smooth pipe. Dr. Ralph Bircher claims that a low-protein diet has > demonstrated that the body needs 10-20% less oxygen and a 30% lower > calorie-intake. This conserves the resources of the body. " High > protein diets, on the other hand, tend to accelerate the turnover of > protein in the body, put the cells into high activity, and promote > stress and premature aging. Cancer is characterized by this rapid > protein synthesis. " Intuitive Eating; Humbart Santillo, N.D., Ph.D. > Humbart goes on to show how excess protein causes osteoporosis, > cancer (all tumors are pockets of protein that the body is trying to > get rid of), " Undigested protein must be eliminated by the kidneys. > This unnecessary work > stresses out the kidneys so much that gradually lesions > are developed and tissues begin to harden. In the > colon this excess protein-waste putrefies into toxic > substances called indols, skatols, and hydrogen sulfide, > etc. Some of these substances are reabsorbed into the > bloodstream and are eventually found in the urine, These > substances irritate the bladder and kidneys, and cause an > unnecessary loss of vital energy. " In spite of their short efficient > digestive system, carnivores sleep 20 hours per day, have little > stamina, and short life spans. A cheetah can run 90 miles per hour. > But if it doesn't make a kill, it can't hunt again until the > following day. It is estimated that an adult gorilla has the ability > to bench press 4000 pounds. The favorite food of the gorilla is wild > celery it is less than 1% (.66%) protein. Without a doubt the > strongest, most energetic and longest lived animals are raw vegans. > The meat and dairy industries are telling us that to build strong > bodies we need a lot of protein. The truth is just the opposite. > > > Keep in mind cancer thrives in an oxygen free environment. So to kill > cancer I would flood my body with oxygen, and stop eating excess > protein. " If you recall your early science lesson about > photosynthesis, you'll remember that all plants, terrestrial and > aquatic, absorb water and carbon dioxide and then give off oxygen as > a waste product., that's why botanical food is composed of oxygen > in > the molecular structure of its chlorophyll content., chlorophyll is > the " blood " of a plant. It is the protein in plant life that > gives it > its distinctive green or purple color. When compared to a molecule of > hemoglobin (the oxygen carrier in human blood) chlorophyll is almost > identical. Have you ever thought about what happens to that oxygen > when we eat those foods in their living state? It feeds oxygen to our > body---the oxygen we need to stay alive and healthy. Only living > foods bring that oxygen into the body. " ---Living Foods For > Optimum > Health; Brian Clement. > > All the necessary amino acids needed are in raw green leafy > vegetables. From these amino acids my body can construct all the > protein it needs. I would take Probiotics. I would get a " Green > Power " juicer and make green juices not only from wheat grass but > from spinach, kale, and any green leafy vegetable I could find. I > would drink Spirulina. I would have sweet fruit for breakfast. I > would eat a large green leafy salad every afternoon. I would not > touch any animal products. I would get the book. " Flood Your Body > with Oxygen " by Ed McCabe. I would look in the back of that book > and > find a person who does oxygen therapy in my area. I would also read > the book. I would do deep breathing exercises. I would start an > aerobic exercise program. > > I would be very aware that all of this oxygen flooding into my body > is going to cause massive detoxification, which will make me feel > sick, I may develop skin problems. My bones will hurt. But I know I > can slow down detox by eating cooked food, or slowing chlorophyll > intake. > > Hope this helps > > > rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > > hello all, > > i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any > > experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, > > could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Well Doug, I think all of the fat is gone, so I must be close to detox'ed. Thanks! BP kauguy [no_reply ] Friday, September 12, 2003 6:53 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: cancer Brian We carry a lot of poisons in our fat cells. Your body has to lose the fat to get rid of the poisons. When you finish detoxifying your weight will stabilize. But as long as you are raw you will never be fat. Doug rawfood , " Brian Powell " <brianmpowell@e...> wrote: > Kauguy, I have been trying to balance my life for years and I've gone > down the hi-protein highway. My primary concern (when it comes to > energy) was the glycemic spike I encountered when I was eating a Vegan > diet.I was " crashing " after meals. I have no irrefutable advice for our > friend that has been diagnosed with cancer, but for me, the thing that > works best is limiting calories, moving a lot and taking everything in > moderation > > > > On a Raw Foods diet, I have recently lost a lot of weight. I am 5'11 > and now weigh about 145 lbs. To me, although I feel great, I'm way too > skinny and (although I don't have cancer,) I feel like I'm wasting away > and I don't feel (or look) as strong as I did when I was eating 70- 100g. > of protein per day. > > > > I'm starting to feel like the hi-protein approach is one extreme and the > Raw Food approach is another. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS on how build > back up to my " fighting weight " of 170 with Raw Foods. I like how I > feel, but don't like how I look - I'd rather look like an athlete than a > super model. > > > > Brian Powell > > allGoode Organics > > 215-242-1133 - office > > 215-313-6927 - cell > > brian@a... > > > > > kauguy [no_reply ] > Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:35 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: cancer > > > > Rik; > I can not give you medical advice, that would be illegal, I am not a > medical doctor, but I can tell you what I would do if I had cancer > (which I did). > > Cancer is grows in tumors, tumors are caused by eating excess > protein. In the book " Living Foods for Optimum Health " by Brian R. > Clement " The Center for Science in the Public Interest reports that > the average American takes in about 150 grams of protein each day. > But you need only a fraction of that amount, where does the excess > go? Well, the body can't store protein, the lymphatic system attempts > to remove the excess. But when the burden becomes too great for the > lymph to handle protein " traps " (tumors) are created, which the body > seals off in > order to protect the rest of its organs and tissues, As Nobel prize > winner Dr. Otto Warburg showed, when oxygen supply is decreased by as > little as 30 percent, these trapped cells can become malignant cancer > cells. Warburg found that unlike normal healthy cells, malignant > cancer cells don't require oxygen to reproduce, in a sense, the > cancerous cells consume waste, saving the body from poisoning by > excess protein, but this survival tactic can cause uncontrolled, > terminal cancer. " I know that medical science has a large list of > carcinogens, but without tumors (protein traps) the cancer has no > place to grow. Mothers milk is only 2% protein for a baby that > doubles its size and weight in 180 days by the time the child reaches > 2 years of age mothers protein drops to 1% which is the same ratio of > protein in fruits. > > The propaganda about protein comes from the meat and dairy > industries, not from medical research. All vegetarian animals eat low > protein diets, including primates. Vegetarian animals have a longer > folded and chambered bowel designed to slow down digestion to allow > more absorption of nutrients. The dogs bowel, for instance is a short > smooth pipe. Dr. Ralph Bircher claims that a low-protein diet has > demonstrated that the body needs 10-20% less oxygen and a 30% lower > calorie-intake. This conserves the resources of the body. " High > protein diets, on the other hand, tend to accelerate the turnover of > protein in the body, put the cells into high activity, and promote > stress and premature aging. Cancer is characterized by this rapid > protein synthesis. " Intuitive Eating; Humbart Santillo, N.D., Ph.D. > Humbart goes on to show how excess protein causes osteoporosis, > cancer (all tumors are pockets of protein that the body is trying to > get rid of), " Undigested protein must be eliminated by the kidneys. > This unnecessary work > stresses out the kidneys so much that gradually lesions > are developed and tissues begin to harden. In the > colon this excess protein-waste putrefies into toxic > substances called indols, skatols, and hydrogen sulfide, > etc. Some of these substances are reabsorbed into the > bloodstream and are eventually found in the urine, These > substances irritate the bladder and kidneys, and cause an > unnecessary loss of vital energy. " In spite of their short efficient > digestive system, carnivores sleep 20 hours per day, have little > stamina, and short life spans. A cheetah can run 90 miles per hour. > But if it doesn't make a kill, it can't hunt again until the > following day. It is estimated that an adult gorilla has the ability > to bench press 4000 pounds. The favorite food of the gorilla is wild > celery it is less than 1% (.66%) protein. Without a doubt the > strongest, most energetic and longest lived animals are raw vegans. > The meat and dairy industries are telling us that to build strong > bodies we need a lot of protein. The truth is just the opposite. > > > Keep in mind cancer thrives in an oxygen free environment. So to kill > cancer I would flood my body with oxygen, and stop eating excess > protein. " If you recall your early science lesson about > photosynthesis, you'll remember that all plants, terrestrial and > aquatic, absorb water and carbon dioxide and then give off oxygen as > a waste product., that's why botanical food is composed of oxygen > in > the molecular structure of its chlorophyll content., chlorophyll is > the " blood " of a plant. It is the protein in plant life that > gives it > its distinctive green or purple color. When compared to a molecule of > hemoglobin (the oxygen carrier in human blood) chlorophyll is almost > identical. Have you ever thought about what happens to that oxygen > when we eat those foods in their living state? It feeds oxygen to our > body---the oxygen we need to stay alive and healthy. Only living > foods bring that oxygen into the body. " ---Living Foods For > Optimum > Health; Brian Clement. > > All the necessary amino acids needed are in raw green leafy > vegetables. From these amino acids my body can construct all the > protein it needs. I would take Probiotics. I would get a " Green > Power " juicer and make green juices not only from wheat grass but > from spinach, kale, and any green leafy vegetable I could find. I > would drink Spirulina. I would have sweet fruit for breakfast. I > would eat a large green leafy salad every afternoon. I would not > touch any animal products. I would get the book. " Flood Your Body > with Oxygen " by Ed McCabe. I would look in the back of that book > and > find a person who does oxygen therapy in my area. I would also read > the book. I would do deep breathing exercises. I would start an > aerobic exercise program. > > I would be very aware that all of this oxygen flooding into my body > is going to cause massive detoxification, which will make me feel > sick, I may develop skin problems. My bones will hurt. But I know I > can slow down detox by eating cooked food, or slowing chlorophyll > intake. > > Hope this helps > > > rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > > hello all, > > i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any > > experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, > > could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Brian, I've heard that detox can go on for six or seven years. David Wolfe comes up with the formula of count one month for every year of your life eating cooked food. I think there is a very sharp fall of after a long water fast. That is the aggressive clean out. Peter Brian Powell [brianmpowell] 12 September 2003 15:46 rawfood RE: [Raw Food] Re: cancer Well Doug, I think all of the fat is gone, so I must be close to detox'ed. Thanks! BP kauguy [no_reply ] Friday, September 12, 2003 6:53 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: cancer Brian We carry a lot of poisons in our fat cells. Your body has to lose the fat to get rid of the poisons. When you finish detoxifying your weight will stabilize. But as long as you are raw you will never be fat. Doug rawfood , " Brian Powell " <brianmpowell@e...> wrote: > Kauguy, I have been trying to balance my life for years and I've gone > down the hi-protein highway. My primary concern (when it comes to > energy) was the glycemic spike I encountered when I was eating a Vegan > diet.I was " crashing " after meals. I have no irrefutable advice for our > friend that has been diagnosed with cancer, but for me, the thing that > works best is limiting calories, moving a lot and taking everything in > moderation > > > > On a Raw Foods diet, I have recently lost a lot of weight. I am 5'11 > and now weigh about 145 lbs. To me, although I feel great, I'm way too > skinny and (although I don't have cancer,) I feel like I'm wasting away > and I don't feel (or look) as strong as I did when I was eating 70- 100g. > of protein per day. > > > > I'm starting to feel like the hi-protein approach is one extreme and the > Raw Food approach is another. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS on how build > back up to my " fighting weight " of 170 with Raw Foods. I like how I > feel, but don't like how I look - I'd rather look like an athlete than a > super model. > > > > Brian Powell > > allGoode Organics > > 215-242-1133 - office > > 215-313-6927 - cell > > brian@a... > > > > > kauguy [no_reply ] > Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:35 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: cancer > > > > Rik; > I can not give you medical advice, that would be illegal, I am not a > medical doctor, but I can tell you what I would do if I had cancer > (which I did). > > Cancer is grows in tumors, tumors are caused by eating excess > protein. In the book " Living Foods for Optimum Health " by Brian R. > Clement " The Center for Science in the Public Interest reports that > the average American takes in about 150 grams of protein each day. > But you need only a fraction of that amount, where does the excess > go? Well, the body can't store protein, the lymphatic system attempts > to remove the excess. But when the burden becomes too great for the > lymph to handle protein " traps " (tumors) are created, which the body > seals off in > order to protect the rest of its organs and tissues, As Nobel prize > winner Dr. Otto Warburg showed, when oxygen supply is decreased by as > little as 30 percent, these trapped cells can become malignant cancer > cells. Warburg found that unlike normal healthy cells, malignant > cancer cells don't require oxygen to reproduce, in a sense, the > cancerous cells consume waste, saving the body from poisoning by > excess protein, but this survival tactic can cause uncontrolled, > terminal cancer. " I know that medical science has a large list of > carcinogens, but without tumors (protein traps) the cancer has no > place to grow. Mothers milk is only 2% protein for a baby that > doubles its size and weight in 180 days by the time the child reaches > 2 years of age mothers protein drops to 1% which is the same ratio of > protein in fruits. > > The propaganda about protein comes from the meat and dairy > industries, not from medical research. All vegetarian animals eat low > protein diets, including primates. Vegetarian animals have a longer > folded and chambered bowel designed to slow down digestion to allow > more absorption of nutrients. The dogs bowel, for instance is a short > smooth pipe. Dr. Ralph Bircher claims that a low-protein diet has > demonstrated that the body needs 10-20% less oxygen and a 30% lower > calorie-intake. This conserves the resources of the body. " High > protein diets, on the other hand, tend to accelerate the turnover of > protein in the body, put the cells into high activity, and promote > stress and premature aging. Cancer is characterized by this rapid > protein synthesis. " Intuitive Eating; Humbart Santillo, N.D., Ph.D. > Humbart goes on to show how excess protein causes osteoporosis, > cancer (all tumors are pockets of protein that the body is trying to > get rid of), " Undigested protein must be eliminated by the kidneys. > This unnecessary work > stresses out the kidneys so much that gradually lesions > are developed and tissues begin to harden. In the > colon this excess protein-waste putrefies into toxic > substances called indols, skatols, and hydrogen sulfide, > etc. Some of these substances are reabsorbed into the > bloodstream and are eventually found in the urine, These > substances irritate the bladder and kidneys, and cause an > unnecessary loss of vital energy. " In spite of their short efficient > digestive system, carnivores sleep 20 hours per day, have little > stamina, and short life spans. A cheetah can run 90 miles per hour. > But if it doesn't make a kill, it can't hunt again until the > following day. It is estimated that an adult gorilla has the ability > to bench press 4000 pounds. The favorite food of the gorilla is wild > celery it is less than 1% (.66%) protein. Without a doubt the > strongest, most energetic and longest lived animals are raw vegans. > The meat and dairy industries are telling us that to build strong > bodies we need a lot of protein. The truth is just the opposite. > > > Keep in mind cancer thrives in an oxygen free environment. So to kill > cancer I would flood my body with oxygen, and stop eating excess > protein. " If you recall your early science lesson about > photosynthesis, you'll remember that all plants, terrestrial and > aquatic, absorb water and carbon dioxide and then give off oxygen as > a waste product., that's why botanical food is composed of oxygen in > the molecular structure of its chlorophyll content., chlorophyll is > the " blood " of a plant. It is the protein in plant life that > gives it > its distinctive green or purple color. When compared to a molecule of > hemoglobin (the oxygen carrier in human blood) chlorophyll is almost > identical. Have you ever thought about what happens to that oxygen > when we eat those foods in their living state? It feeds oxygen to our > body---the oxygen we need to stay alive and healthy. Only living > foods bring that oxygen into the body. " ---Living Foods For > Optimum > Health; Brian Clement. > > All the necessary amino acids needed are in raw green leafy > vegetables. From these amino acids my body can construct all the > protein it needs. I would take Probiotics. I would get a " Green > Power " juicer and make green juices not only from wheat grass but > from spinach, kale, and any green leafy vegetable I could find. I > would drink Spirulina. I would have sweet fruit for breakfast. I > would eat a large green leafy salad every afternoon. I would not > touch any animal products. I would get the book. " Flood Your Body > with Oxygen " by Ed McCabe. I would look in the back of that book > and > find a person who does oxygen therapy in my area. I would also read > the book. I would do deep breathing exercises. I would start an > aerobic exercise program. > > I would be very aware that all of this oxygen flooding into my body > is going to cause massive detoxification, which will make me feel > sick, I may develop skin problems. My bones will hurt. But I know I > can slow down detox by eating cooked food, or slowing chlorophyll > intake. > > Hope this helps > > > rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > > hello all, > > i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any > > experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, > > could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 k. Brian Powell allGoode Organics 215-242-1133 - office 215-313-6927 - cell brian Peter Gardiner [petergardiner] Friday, September 12, 2003 11:22 AM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] Re: cancer Brian, I've heard that detox can go on for six or seven years. David Wolfe comes up with the formula of count one month for every year of your life eating cooked food. I think there is a very sharp fall of after a long water fast. That is the aggressive clean out. Peter Brian Powell [brianmpowell] 12 September 2003 15:46 rawfood RE: [Raw Food] Re: cancer Well Doug, I think all of the fat is gone, so I must be close to detox'ed. Thanks! BP kauguy [no_reply ] Friday, September 12, 2003 6:53 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: cancer Brian We carry a lot of poisons in our fat cells. Your body has to lose the fat to get rid of the poisons. When you finish detoxifying your weight will stabilize. But as long as you are raw you will never be fat. Doug rawfood , " Brian Powell " <brianmpowell@e...> wrote: > Kauguy, I have been trying to balance my life for years and I've gone > down the hi-protein highway. My primary concern (when it comes to > energy) was the glycemic spike I encountered when I was eating a Vegan > diet.I was " crashing " after meals. I have no irrefutable advice for our > friend that has been diagnosed with cancer, but for me, the thing that > works best is limiting calories, moving a lot and taking everything in > moderation > > > > On a Raw Foods diet, I have recently lost a lot of weight. I am 5'11 > and now weigh about 145 lbs. To me, although I feel great, I'm way too > skinny and (although I don't have cancer,) I feel like I'm wasting away > and I don't feel (or look) as strong as I did when I was eating 70- 100g. > of protein per day. > > > > I'm starting to feel like the hi-protein approach is one extreme and the > Raw Food approach is another. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS on how build > back up to my " fighting weight " of 170 with Raw Foods. I like how I > feel, but don't like how I look - I'd rather look like an athlete than a > super model. > > > > Brian Powell > > allGoode Organics > > 215-242-1133 - office > > 215-313-6927 - cell > > brian@a... > > > > > kauguy [no_reply ] > Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:35 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: cancer > > > > Rik; > I can not give you medical advice, that would be illegal, I am not a > medical doctor, but I can tell you what I would do if I had cancer > (which I did). > > Cancer is grows in tumors, tumors are caused by eating excess > protein. In the book " Living Foods for Optimum Health " by Brian R. > Clement " The Center for Science in the Public Interest reports that > the average American takes in about 150 grams of protein each day. > But you need only a fraction of that amount, where does the excess > go? Well, the body can't store protein, the lymphatic system attempts > to remove the excess. But when the burden becomes too great for the > lymph to handle protein " traps " (tumors) are created, which the body > seals off in > order to protect the rest of its organs and tissues, As Nobel prize > winner Dr. Otto Warburg showed, when oxygen supply is decreased by as > little as 30 percent, these trapped cells can become malignant cancer > cells. Warburg found that unlike normal healthy cells, malignant > cancer cells don't require oxygen to reproduce, in a sense, the > cancerous cells consume waste, saving the body from poisoning by > excess protein, but this survival tactic can cause uncontrolled, > terminal cancer. " I know that medical science has a large list of > carcinogens, but without tumors (protein traps) the cancer has no > place to grow. Mothers milk is only 2% protein for a baby that > doubles its size and weight in 180 days by the time the child reaches > 2 years of age mothers protein drops to 1% which is the same ratio of > protein in fruits. > > The propaganda about protein comes from the meat and dairy > industries, not from medical research. All vegetarian animals eat low > protein diets, including primates. Vegetarian animals have a longer > folded and chambered bowel designed to slow down digestion to allow > more absorption of nutrients. The dogs bowel, for instance is a short > smooth pipe. Dr. Ralph Bircher claims that a low-protein diet has > demonstrated that the body needs 10-20% less oxygen and a 30% lower > calorie-intake. This conserves the resources of the body. " High > protein diets, on the other hand, tend to accelerate the turnover of > protein in the body, put the cells into high activity, and promote > stress and premature aging. Cancer is characterized by this rapid > protein synthesis. " Intuitive Eating; Humbart Santillo, N.D., Ph.D. > Humbart goes on to show how excess protein causes osteoporosis, > cancer (all tumors are pockets of protein that the body is trying to > get rid of), " Undigested protein must be eliminated by the kidneys. > This unnecessary work > stresses out the kidneys so much that gradually lesions > are developed and tissues begin to harden. In the > colon this excess protein-waste putrefies into toxic > substances called indols, skatols, and hydrogen sulfide, > etc. Some of these substances are reabsorbed into the > bloodstream and are eventually found in the urine, These > substances irritate the bladder and kidneys, and cause an > unnecessary loss of vital energy. " In spite of their short efficient > digestive system, carnivores sleep 20 hours per day, have little > stamina, and short life spans. A cheetah can run 90 miles per hour. > But if it doesn't make a kill, it can't hunt again until the > following day. It is estimated that an adult gorilla has the ability > to bench press 4000 pounds. The favorite food of the gorilla is wild > celery it is less than 1% (.66%) protein. Without a doubt the > strongest, most energetic and longest lived animals are raw vegans. > The meat and dairy industries are telling us that to build strong > bodies we need a lot of protein. The truth is just the opposite. > > > Keep in mind cancer thrives in an oxygen free environment. So to kill > cancer I would flood my body with oxygen, and stop eating excess > protein. " If you recall your early science lesson about > photosynthesis, you'll remember that all plants, terrestrial and > aquatic, absorb water and carbon dioxide and then give off oxygen as > a waste product., that's why botanical food is composed of oxygen in > the molecular structure of its chlorophyll content., chlorophyll is > the " blood " of a plant. It is the protein in plant life that > gives it > its distinctive green or purple color. When compared to a molecule of > hemoglobin (the oxygen carrier in human blood) chlorophyll is almost > identical. Have you ever thought about what happens to that oxygen > when we eat those foods in their living state? It feeds oxygen to our > body---the oxygen we need to stay alive and healthy. Only living > foods bring that oxygen into the body. " ---Living Foods For > Optimum > Health; Brian Clement. > > All the necessary amino acids needed are in raw green leafy > vegetables. From these amino acids my body can construct all the > protein it needs. I would take Probiotics. I would get a " Green > Power " juicer and make green juices not only from wheat grass but > from spinach, kale, and any green leafy vegetable I could find. I > would drink Spirulina. I would have sweet fruit for breakfast. I > would eat a large green leafy salad every afternoon. I would not > touch any animal products. I would get the book. " Flood Your Body > with Oxygen " by Ed McCabe. I would look in the back of that book > and > find a person who does oxygen therapy in my area. I would also read > the book. I would do deep breathing exercises. I would start an > aerobic exercise program. > > I would be very aware that all of this oxygen flooding into my body > is going to cause massive detoxification, which will make me feel > sick, I may develop skin problems. My bones will hurt. But I know I > can slow down detox by eating cooked food, or slowing chlorophyll > intake. > > Hope this helps > > > rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > > hello all, > > i'm asking for a family member about cancer. does anyone have any > > experience tackling cancer with herbal/raw food methods? if so, > > could you give me some advice/comments please. thank you, rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Yeh, The chemiclas in hair/ skin products (Average products like clairol, suave, whatever the catchy names are) Contain carcinogens. Which cause cancer It if for this same reason that I make all my body care products. I have not purchased commercially made from a store to put on my body in a very long time. You just can never be to safe. As a matter of fact a store clerk that works here at one of our health food stores came down with some dreadful break-out all over her hands and she has gone to all types of drs. and they do not know what caused this. I think the industry is all about money!!!!!! So go figure.........Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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