raw eggs

[Guest guest]

hello all,

is it safe to ask what the difference in raw and cooked eggs is,

besides getting solid! i'm trying to find out what the benefits are

either way......... someone said something about the cholesterol

levels are different, good and bad cholesterol in a raw egg/boiled

egg. i can't find it in search, anyone? thanks, rik

[Guest guest]

raw egg per 100 grams

Pro 12.58 G

Carb .77 G

Sat fat 3.09 G

Mono fat 3.8 G

Poly fat 1.36 G

Choles 423 mg

 

Cooked egg per 100 G

Pro 13.63 G

Carb .88 G

Sat fat 4.29 G

Mono fat 6.34 G

Poly fat 2.66 G

Choles 457 mg

 

Both appear pretty equal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote:

> hello all,

> is it safe to ask what the difference in raw and cooked eggs is,

> besides getting solid! i'm trying to find out what the benefits

are

> either way......... someone said something about the cholesterol

> levels are different, good and bad cholesterol in a raw egg/boiled

> egg. i can't find it in search, anyone? thanks, rik

[Guest guest]

> what the difference in raw and cooked eggs is,

-

 

Eggs, first of all, MUST be organic and free range.

 

The cholesterol in the raw yolks is body friendly [HDL] but if cooked,

becomes deadly LDL.

The raw yolk also has live omega 3 essential fatty acids intact.

The Biotin in the White is avialable in the uncooked form but not in the

solid unless accompanied by an uncooked yolk.

For those who are not 100% raw, keep it soft boiled with the emphasis on the

soft.

rusty

-

" Rik " <bliksemskater

<rawfood >

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:18 PM

[Raw Food] raw eggs

 

 

> hello all,

> is it safe to ask what the difference in raw and cooked eggs is,

> besides getting solid! i'm trying to find out what the benefits are

> either way......... someone said something about the cholesterol

> levels are different, good and bad cholesterol in a raw egg/boiled

> egg. i can't find it in search, anyone? thanks, rik

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote:

> hello all,

> is it safe to ask what the difference in raw and cooked eggs is,

> besides getting solid!

 

Rusty is right about the cholesterol changing. There is some good

articles about the nutrients in raw eggs vs. cooked eggs at

www.waisays.com . ALso, when they are cooked the protein is changed

to aletered form (that is why it turns solid)

 

I have also seen a study describes where people ate a dozen raw eggs

at a time and it did not raise their cholesterol significantly beyond

health limits.

But if you have very low cholesterol (under normal biological levels)

like I did, eggs will raise it within normal limits. This made a huge

differnece in my health.

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Campylobacter. Listeria. Salmonella. All this stuff is found in organic

eggs too. That's why I don't do it.

 

If you want, you can believe that the organically grown stuff is so much

safer that you'll never get sick from it (or that your immune system is

so strong, that the bugs won't get ya.

 

But I saw data (not easy to dig up at the moment), enough to persuade me

that the " free range chickens " at just as infected as the battery-caged

ones.

 

 

Post accident, heading to chiropracter, now.

 

 

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, alreadyherenow wrote:

 

> rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote:

> > hello all,

> > is it safe to ask what the difference in raw and cooked eggs is,

> > besides getting solid!

>

> Rusty is right about the cholesterol changing. There is some good

> articles about the nutrients in raw eggs vs. cooked eggs at

> www.waisays.com . ALso, when they are cooked the protein is changed

> to aletered form (that is why it turns solid)

>

> I have also seen a study describes where people ate a dozen raw eggs

> at a time and it did not raise their cholesterol significantly beyond

> health limits.

> But if you have very low cholesterol (under normal biological levels)

> like I did, eggs will raise it within normal limits. This made a huge

> differnece in my health.

>

> Pete

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

rawfood , Margie Roswell <mroswell@f...> wrote:

> Campylobacter. Listeria. Salmonella. All this stuff is found in

organic

> eggs too. That's why I don't do it.

 

That stuff is everywhere, including most organic produce which is

grown with manure.

Almost all cases of salmonella due to eggs are from prepared foods

that have sat around too long (like eggnog or scrambled eggs in a

buffet)

Fresh eggs are not taken over with bacteria. If so, they could never

grow into chicks.

 

 

> If you want, you can believe that the organically grown stuff is so

much

> safer that you'll never get sick from it (or that your immune

system is

> so strong, that the bugs won't get ya.>>

 

From people's experiences, this seems to be true. I've eaten hundreds

of raw eggs for over a year with never a problem. Many people eat raw

eggs fresh out of the shell.

 

This is from: http://www.13.waisays.com/raw.htmBacteria

 

" How could we ever believe that bacteria in fresh raw foods are

dangerous ?

 

Cheetah's sometimes store their prey for days in a tree before eating

it, without dropping dead afterwards. The fox steals and eats raw

eggs, and chimps, gorillas and other primates eat insects.

 

Or are we fundamentally different from other mammals ?

 

Of course not; biochemically, we are very much the same, and for

millions of years we also only ate raw foods.

 

But nowadays we hardly consume raw foods anymore. Especially elder

people are advised not to consume raw foods. And when you only

consume prepared foods, your defense system is not trained to fight

bacteria. If they subsequently eat something that has been stored in

the fridge too long, they can become seriously ill.

 

 

To be able to fight bacteria, you have to eat raw foods. It's

criminal to advice elderly to consume sterile foods only, increasing

fatal intoxication risk. Having an untrained defense system can be

lethal ; during the conquest of South America a majority of 50

million natives merely died of contagious 'white man' diseases, for

their defense systems weren't trained to fight these strange

bacteria / viruses. (1)

 

Consuming raw foods daily, or incidentally consuming bad food can

give you the runs at worst.

 

All fresh natural foods contain sufficient bacteria to train your

defensive system. Don't eat bad food ''to intensify training'',

because absorbing far too much bacteria on a regular basis eventually

can cause arthritis (2), stomach- and / or colon cancer. (3)

 

Intoxication

 

lf your defensive system is not well trained, and you've consumed

something that was not fresh at all anymore, it might be that your

body needs to increase body-temperature to fight the bacteria; fever.

 

Unfortunately, antibiotics hardly work anymore (4), because we have

used antibiotics too much, making bacteria resistant against these

antibiotics. (5) Also, antibiotics (at best) not only weaken

bacteria, but your defense system too, increasing risk of

intoxication (6) and becoming ill again. (7) Some antibiotics (like

streptonigrin) increase radical oxygen release to fight bacteria,

which of course damages human cells too.

 

Antibiotics also kill bacteria in the colon, which can cause

sleeplessness (8), because some of these bacteria produce factor S,

which induces sleep. (9)

 

 

The only way to get ill from bacteria in food, is by having an

untrained defense system, or by consuming food that contains far too

much bacteria.

 

When animals are sick, they usually don't eat, because their defense

system is weakened. When we are sick, we shouldn't eat anything

either.

 

If food contains far too much bacteria, it is already partially

decomposed by bacteria. And if this is raw food, the smell will tell

you. But if this food has been prepared, containing herbs etc., and

stored in the fridge, it is much harder to tell. Therefore, the real

danger is in prepared food that has been stored in the fridge.

 

 

If fish isn't that fresh anymore, the smell definitely tells you so.

 

If fruit is rotten, you can see it.

 

If egg yolk isn't that fresh anymore you, it's also easy to tell.

 

In nuts it's a little harder "

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

In my studies, I've learned that eggs are higher in lecithin than

cholesterol, so there is no need to be concerned with cholesterol in

eggs.

 

Marlene

 

rawfood , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote:

> hello all,

> is it safe to ask what the difference in raw and cooked eggs is,

> besides getting solid! i'm trying to find out what the benefits

are

> either way......... someone said something about the cholesterol

> levels are different, good and bad cholesterol in a raw egg/boiled

> egg. i can't find it in search, anyone? thanks, rik

[Guest guest]

rawfood , backpackinggirl20012001

<no_reply> wrote:

> Greetings,

> In my studies, I've learned that eggs are higher in lecithin than

> cholesterol, so there is no need to be concerned with cholesterol

in

> eggs.

>

> Marlene

>

Hi Marlene

I really like raw egg yolks for my hair, nails & dry skin. I

noticed a big difference in just the first week of eating 2or 3 raw

egg yolks. It's strange how something as simple as a raw egg yolk

could be so effective so fast and be so inexpensive. I was used to

always looking for a new supplement to take for making my hair &

nails grow, and I actually found it in egg yolks!!

 

I have been eating them now for about 7 months (3-4 per day on

average and have never had one instance of stomach upset or

indication of any bacteria problem)

 

I've never had any major health issues, I was just interested in

them more from a beauty standpoint. But I CAN'T eat COOKED eggs -

I'm allergic and will feel terrible after eating them!! The heat

destroys the enzymes, lecithin, B-Vitamins etc so it's much harder

to digest when cooked!!

 

Nicky

[Guest guest]

Nicky;

What we are doing as raw foodists, is trying to detoxify and

alkalize our bodies. Eating eggs is contrary to that goal. Protein

from the yoke is an artificial stimulant, having the same effect on

the body as caffeine. Any eggs eaten are never eliminated from the

bowel. We are a vegan animal (weather we eat that way or not) the

length of our intestine and the design of our bowel makes it

impossible for animal protein to be digested before it rots inside

us, and is absorbed as acidic pus through the intestinal wall. The

egg white is high in albumin, albumin is the blood form of mucus,

mucus, also being acidic, is what we are trying to eliminate from our

bodies.

 

In order for us to succeed as raw foodists we need to educate

ourselves about raw nutrition so that we don't go blindly into the

pitfalls of what seems like a good idea.

 

I hope I haven't offended you; Doug

 

 

 

rawfood , " nickysparkler " <nickysparkler>

wrote:

> rawfood , backpackinggirl20012001

> <no_reply> wrote:

> > Greetings,

> > In my studies, I've learned that eggs are higher in lecithin than

> > cholesterol, so there is no need to be concerned with cholesterol

> in

> > eggs.

> >

> > Marlene

> >

> Hi Marlene

> I really like raw egg yolks for my hair, nails & dry skin. I

> noticed a big difference in just the first week of eating 2or 3 raw

> egg yolks. It's strange how something as simple as a raw egg yolk

> could be so effective so fast and be so inexpensive. I was used to

> always looking for a new supplement to take for making my hair &

> nails grow, and I actually found it in egg yolks!!

>

> I have been eating them now for about 7 months (3-4 per day on

> average and have never had one instance of stomach upset or

> indication of any bacteria problem)

>

> I've never had any major health issues, I was just interested in

> them more from a beauty standpoint. But I CAN'T eat COOKED eggs -

> I'm allergic and will feel terrible after eating them!! The heat

> destroys the enzymes, lecithin, B-Vitamins etc so it's much harder

> to digest when cooked!!

>

> Nicky

[Guest guest]

Doug wrote:

> What we are doing as raw foodists, is trying to detoxify and

> alkalize our bodies. Eating eggs is contrary to that goal.

 

Dear Doug,

you must remember each " raw foodist " has his/her own agenda, perhaps

my agenda after being a " raw foodist " for almost 2 years is no

longer " Detoxification " . I have detoxified beyond possible

toxification on a raw food diet. What my goal is now, to enrich my

body with live, living foods that sustain my life as oppossed to

dead food (processed, pasturized, refined, cooked, or dead animal)

which makes me feel less " Alive " . Also, you are assuming that

all " Raw foodists " are actually " Raw Vegans " which is definately not

the case. There are " splinter " groups too whom eat raw fish and

meats, including raw dairy products. One of my goals as a raw

vegetarian is natural beauty. Being 36, I felt before going raw, I

was starting to age prematurely, my skin looked blotchy, my hair

lacked luster and body, my eyes were droopy and not lively as they

are now. I feel I look very much alive now, vibrant. I'm not one

to worry normally about my appearance, I don't wear make-up or put

junk in my hair, but it's a great side-effect of eating really well

to look good. Another being the fact that once all of the toxins are

out of your body you no longer need deodarant to mask a toxic smell

emitting from your pits!!!! My point being (and it's been said of me

that I am rather long-winded, I know-sorry) I agree with Nicky and a

few others on this board, or not (such as the case with Pete, but

that's a whole different topic all together) that raw eggs can

greatly improve not only one's health but one's personal beauty

which makes a person feel even better inside and out. Personally, I

eat (and love) raw eggs and I don't feel a person should feel bad or

ostersized admitting it.

 

> Any eggs eaten are never eliminated from the

> bowel.

 

Unless you do a fast every now and then, and I don't mean just a

juice fast, I mean water only with a little lemon for more than 10

days. The bowel releases (can we talk elimination for a moment?) a

gelatinous lining after about 9-10 days of fasting that I have

experienced called the Mucoid Plaque. This mucoid plaque, obviously

is not something you hear too much about because it's not really a

great topic, but it is the lining of both the lower and upper

intestines and can be eliminated along with all toxins that have

built up over the years if you fast long enough (or do an " Ejuva "

cleanse) I have read where people have eliminated a 20 foot

long " Mucoid Plaque " , and seen pics at this address , they're not

pretty so beware: http://www.ejuva.com/art/photo.gif

So in all honesty, eggs can be eliminated and your body can be made

anew, almost as if you were just born and your system brand new.

 

>The egg white is high in albumin, albumin is the blood form of

>mucus, mucus, also being acidic, is what we are trying to eliminate

>from our bodies.

 

Nobody ever said anything about eating the whites I beleive. Aside

from being mucous they are disgusting, when people are talking about

eating raw eggs they are talking about eating only the yokes. I even

go so far as to break the yoke sac and remove it. What you have

left is absolutely delicious, I was always a fan of eggs " sunny-side-

up " before going raw anyway and loved the taste of them runny.

 

> In order for us to succeed as raw foodists we need to educate

> ourselves about raw nutrition so that we don't go blindly into the

> pitfalls of what seems like a good idea.

 

In order for " us " to succeed as raw foodists we need to be

comfortable with our diets and ourselves and not make ourselves feel

guilty after reading posts such as yours, assuming that " we " are not

educated. I choose not to be a total " Nazi " when it comes to being

a " raw foodist " , being a food-nazi allows one to feel less-than-

adequate if one falls, which is not at all the case. Do not allow

yourself to become the same person whom eats a SAD and close your

mind to new ideas, just because Pete was/chose to be argumentative,

do not assume he was wrong. He just has a bad delivery system. As

far as I'm concerned I have never met a more intelligent, incredibly

committed to raw, highly educated person such as Pete and I'm sorry

he had to be so argumentive on this and other boards about this

subject, for he has such a wealth of information. He is lucky to

have one of those minds that can photographically memorize anything

and retain it. People like that are often loners because they

cannot get along in society and get ostrasized from groups because

they are different. It takes balls to stand up for what you believe

and know to be true, just as you do for what you believe and know to

be true for your life.

Sorry to be so long winded, have a great day.

Kris

>

>

>

> rawfood , " nickysparkler "

<nickysparkler>

> wrote:

 

> > Hi Marlene

> > I really like raw egg yolks for my hair, nails & dry skin. I

> > noticed a big difference in just the first week of eating 2or 3

raw

> > egg yolks. It's strange how something as simple as a raw egg

yolk

> > could be so effective so fast and be so inexpensive. I was used

to

> > always looking for a new supplement to take for making my hair &

> > nails grow, and I actually found it in egg yolks!!

> >

> > I have been eating them now for about 7 months (3-4 per day on

> > average and have never had one instance of stomach upset or

> > indication of any bacteria problem)

> >

> > I've never had any major health issues, I was just interested in

> > them more from a beauty standpoint. But I CAN'T eat COOKED

eggs -

> > I'm allergic and will feel terrible after eating them!! The

heat

> > destroys the enzymes, lecithin, B-Vitamins etc so it's much

harder

> > to digest when cooked!!

> >

> > Nicky