Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hi everyone, I've been 80-100% raw for the last eight months and am loving it, but decided to up the ante and aim for 100% all of the time. So I've been doing this for about 3 days now and have completed lost my cravings for cigarrettes and I've stopped drinking coffee altogether. At around 7pm today I had the most excruciating migraine of my life and it kept going on strong for over 5-1/2 hours. It started in my jaw and spread up into my temples and the top of my head. Understanding that my body's going through a healing crisis and nicotene withdrawals, I can appreciate that this has happened, but it took every ounce of my willpower to avoid taking an advil for the pain. Instead I sipped on ginger tea (that was all I had) and just tried to relax. Has anyone else experience such headaches while detoxing? Any suggestions for natural remedies to help me through another migraine? I can't imagine going through another one of these unprepared. Another important note: I survived a really bad car crash about two months ago and still go to physio for neck and shoulder pain. Should I expect any further pain in these areas as I continue to detox? Cheers, Chantal in Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hi Chantle, I'm no expert on detoxing, but I can tell you that both myself and two of my close friends gave up smoking about ten years ago, and for the first six month we were all very ill. One friend had absolutely terrible chest infections, worse than he'd ever had in his life and had to spend about two months off work. @For myself, I started having nose bleeds and the entire of the inside of my nose was full of weeping, bleeding wounds. Sorry about that, but it was really painful and lasted about two months. I was astonished with this as I have never had any trouble with my nose. I felt like my whole face was infected and inflamed. I didn't eat healthily at the time or start any eating plans to detox, so I think that maybe these things just happen when you make drastic changes, no matter what you eat. I'd say stick with it for a while and wait it out. Hope this helps. Love Shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Chantal, I may not be the one to answer this as I am still struggling with going totally raw. However, I know all about headaches and migraines. What I do is take a hot shower and let the water beat down on my head, neck, and shoulders. When I get out of the shower, I rub peppermint oil on my forehead, temples, back of my neck, and shoulders. It burns because my pores are open from the shower, but it works better than anything else I have tried. If I can catch a migraine before it has hit full fledge, sometimes the peppermint oil without the shower will work. For some people, breathing in the smell of lavender oil will work. The smell is nauseating to me though. Feverfew used to work for me, but I haven't taken it in the last 4 1/2 years, because I have been pregnant, nursing, or both. For some it will work right away; others have to take it daily for several months for more of a preventative type treatment. If you go that route, get a tincture, not capsules. ~Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Shell, May I draw your attention to the notion offered by David Wolfe in his Sunfood Success System? He suggests that eating the leafy green food as the best aid to curing addiction. It is also strong on detoxification. It certainly helped me when any craving came on. Now I eat a lot of greenery and am never plagued by temptation. Peter Andy & Shell [andy.mich] 23 September 2003 10:47 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis Hi Chantle, I'm no expert on detoxing, but I can tell you that both myself and two of my close friends gave up smoking about ten years ago, and for the first six month we were all very ill. One friend had absolutely terrible chest infections, worse than he'd ever had in his life and had to spend about two months off work. @For myself, I started having nose bleeds and the entire of the inside of my nose was full of weeping, bleeding wounds. Sorry about that, but it was really painful and lasted about two months. I was astonished with this as I have never had any trouble with my nose. I felt like my whole face was infected and inflamed. I didn't eat healthily at the time or start any eating plans to detox, so I think that maybe these things just happen when you make drastic changes, no matter what you eat. I'd say stick with it for a while and wait it out. Hope this helps. Love Shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hi Shell, Thankfully I've had only one migraine so far, but I feel absolutely horrible - flu-like symptoms and just overall fatigue. But considering that I was a smoker for 10 years, the detox symptoms aren't that bad. Thanks for sharing your experience. I'll keep you posted on mine. Cheers, Chantal rawfood , " Andy & Shell " <andy.mich@n...> wrote: > Hi Chantle, > I'm no expert on detoxing, but I can tell you that both myself and two of > my close friends gave up smoking about ten years ago, and for the first six > month we were all very ill. One friend had absolutely terrible chest > infections, worse than he'd ever had in his life and had to spend about two > months off work. @For myself, I started having nose bleeds and the entire > of the inside of my nose was full of weeping, bleeding wounds. Sorry about > that, but it was really painful and lasted about two months. I was > astonished with this as I have never had any trouble with my nose. I felt > like my whole face was infected and inflamed. I didn't eat healthily at the > time or start any eating plans to detox, so I think that maybe these things > just happen when you make drastic changes, no matter what you eat. I'd say > stick with it for a while and wait it out. Hope this helps. > Love Shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Peter, What kinds of cravings were you able to curb with leafy greens? Cigarette? Food? Caffeine? Do you just munch on them when you felt the need or juiced them? Cheers, Chantal rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Shell, > > May I draw your attention to the notion offered by David Wolfe in his > Sunfood Success System? He suggests that eating the leafy green food as > the best aid to curing addiction. It is also strong on detoxification. > It certainly helped me when any craving came on. Now I eat a lot of > greenery and am never plagued by temptation. > > Peter > > Andy & Shell [andy.mich@n...] > 23 September 2003 10:47 > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis > > > > Hi Chantle, > I'm no expert on detoxing, but I can tell you that both myself and two > of my close friends gave up smoking about ten years ago, and for the > first six month we were all very ill. One friend had absolutely > terrible chest infections, worse than he'd ever had in his life and had > to spend about two months off work. @For myself, I started having nose > bleeds and the entire of the inside of my nose was full of weeping, > bleeding wounds. Sorry about that, but it was really painful and lasted > about two months. I was astonished with this as I have never had any > trouble with my nose. I felt like my whole face was infected and > inflamed. I didn't eat healthily at the time or start any eating plans > to detox, so I think that maybe these things just happen when you make > drastic changes, no matter what you eat. I'd say stick with it for a > while and wait it out. Hope this helps. Love Shell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Chantal, My past addictions included most things except what are known as hard and soft drugs. I was the opposite of a " hippy " in the 60s. My hair was short, had money in my pocket and I never freaked out. Cigarettes were the hardest as I smoked two packets a day for 40 years. I also drank about 20 cups of black coffee a day I sipped alcohol a lot too. Then I trimmed my diet. I was a big meat eater. Things with sugar went first then red meat, the sauce, salad dressing, game, poultry, fish, bread, potatoes, cakes, grain fungus as in mushrooms, most of the nuts as they are dried, spices, onions, seaweed, honey and so forth until I was left with selected fruit and vegetables some flaxseed and a few other fresh nuts. I have just found that after a good evening meal of green vegetables, I have no food cravings. At first I juiced vegetables for fasting purposes but now I never bother. I usually make more food than I can eat of an evening so that it would be easy to go to the fridge and get more but this happens rarely. Peter Chantal [chantaljackson] 23 September 2003 19:36 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis Peter, What kinds of cravings were you able to curb with leafy greens? Cigarette? Food? Caffeine? Do you just munch on them when you felt the need or juiced them? Cheers, Chantal rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Shell, > > May I draw your attention to the notion offered by David Wolfe in his > Sunfood Success System? He suggests that eating the leafy green food as > the best aid to curing addiction. It is also strong on detoxification. > It certainly helped me when any craving came on. Now I eat a lot of > greenery and am never plagued by temptation. > > Peter > > Andy & Shell [andy.mich@n...] > 23 September 2003 10:47 > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis > > > > Hi Chantle, > I'm no expert on detoxing, but I can tell you that both myself and two > of my close friends gave up smoking about ten years ago, and for the > first six month we were all very ill. One friend had absolutely > terrible chest infections, worse than he'd ever had in his life and had > to spend about two months off work. @For myself, I started having nose > bleeds and the entire of the inside of my nose was full of weeping, > bleeding wounds. Sorry about that, but it was really painful and lasted > about two months. I was astonished with this as I have never had any > trouble with my nose. I felt like my whole face was infected and > inflamed. I didn't eat healthily at the time or start any eating plans > to detox, so I think that maybe these things just happen when you make > drastic changes, no matter what you eat. I'd say stick with it for a > while and wait it out. Hope this helps. Love Shell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 --- B " H How young are you, Pete, if I may ask? Doreen In rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Chantal, > > My past addictions included most things except what are known as hard > and soft drugs. I was the opposite of a " hippy " in the 60s. My hair was > short, had money in my pocket and I never freaked out. > > Cigarettes were the hardest as I smoked two packets a day for 40 years. > I also drank about 20 cups of black coffee a day > I sipped alcohol a lot too. Then I trimmed my diet. I was a big meat > eater. Things with sugar went first then red meat, the sauce, salad > dressing, game, poultry, fish, bread, potatoes, cakes, grain fungus as > in mushrooms, most of the nuts as they are dried, spices, onions, > seaweed, honey and so forth until I was left with selected fruit and > vegetables some flaxseed and a few other fresh nuts. > > I have just found that after a good evening meal of green vegetables, I > have no food cravings. At first I juiced vegetables for fasting > purposes but now I never bother. I usually make more food than I can > eat of an evening so that it would be easy to go to the fridge and get > more but this happens rarely. > > Peter > > Chantal [chantaljackson@s...] > 23 September 2003 19:36 > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis > > > > Peter, > > What kinds of cravings were you able to curb with leafy greens? > Cigarette? Food? Caffeine? Do you just munch on them when you > felt the need or juiced them? > > Cheers, > Chantal > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " > <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > > Shell, > > > > May I draw your attention to the notion offered by David Wolfe in > his > > Sunfood Success System? He suggests that eating the leafy green > food as > > the best aid to curing addiction. It is also strong on > detoxification. > > It certainly helped me when any craving came on. Now I eat a lot > of > > greenery and am never plagued by temptation. > > > > Peter > > > > Andy & Shell [andy.mich@n...] > > 23 September 2003 10:47 > > rawfood > > Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis > > > > > > > > Hi Chantle, > > I'm no expert on detoxing, but I can tell you that both myself > and two > > of my close friends gave up smoking about ten years ago, and for > the > > first six month we were all very ill. One friend had absolutely > > terrible chest infections, worse than he'd ever had in his life > and had > > to spend about two months off work. @For myself, I started having > nose > > bleeds and the entire of the inside of my nose was full of weeping, > > bleeding wounds. Sorry about that, but it was really painful and > lasted > > about two months. I was astonished with this as I have never had > any > > trouble with my nose. I felt like my whole face was infected and > > inflamed. I didn't eat healthily at the time or start any eating > plans > > to detox, so I think that maybe these things just happen when you > make > > drastic changes, no matter what you eat. I'd say stick with it > for a > > while and wait it out. Hope this helps. Love Shell. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Well, yesterday was my first totally raw day. I had a small headache that began in the afternoon. During the night it escalated into a migraine. Today I feel really lousy. My head is throbbing and I am exhausted. I don't even feel like drinking water. My biggest concern is that my milk supply doesn't drop, so I am forcing myself to drink water and eat fruit. Chantal, how are you doing? ~Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Doreen 58 which is not young any more. Peter Doreen Bell-Dotan [dordot2001] 24 September 2003 08:59 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis --- B " H How young are you, Pete, if I may ask? Doreen In rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Chantal, > > My past addictions included most things except what are known as hard > and soft drugs. I was the opposite of a " hippy " in the 60s. My hair was > short, had money in my pocket and I never freaked out. > > Cigarettes were the hardest as I smoked two packets a day for 40 years. > I also drank about 20 cups of black coffee a day > I sipped alcohol a lot too. Then I trimmed my diet. I was a big meat > eater. Things with sugar went first then red meat, the sauce, salad > dressing, game, poultry, fish, bread, potatoes, cakes, grain fungus as > in mushrooms, most of the nuts as they are dried, spices, onions, > seaweed, honey and so forth until I was left with selected fruit and > vegetables some flaxseed and a few other fresh nuts. > > I have just found that after a good evening meal of green vegetables, I > have no food cravings. At first I juiced vegetables for fasting > purposes but now I never bother. I usually make more food than I can > eat of an evening so that it would be easy to go to the fridge and get > more but this happens rarely. > > Peter > > Chantal [chantaljackson@s...] > 23 September 2003 19:36 > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis > > > > Peter, > > What kinds of cravings were you able to curb with leafy greens? > Cigarette? Food? Caffeine? Do you just munch on them when you > felt the need or juiced them? > > Cheers, > Chantal > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " > <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > > Shell, > > > > May I draw your attention to the notion offered by David Wolfe in > his > > Sunfood Success System? He suggests that eating the leafy green > food as > > the best aid to curing addiction. It is also strong on > detoxification. > > It certainly helped me when any craving came on. Now I eat a lot > of > > greenery and am never plagued by temptation. > > > > Peter > > > > Andy & Shell [andy.mich@n...] > > 23 September 2003 10:47 > > rawfood > > Re: [Raw Food] Healing Crisis > > > > > > > > Hi Chantle, > > I'm no expert on detoxing, but I can tell you that both myself > and two > > of my close friends gave up smoking about ten years ago, and for > the > > first six month we were all very ill. One friend had absolutely > > terrible chest infections, worse than he'd ever had in his life > and had > > to spend about two months off work. @For myself, I started having > nose > > bleeds and the entire of the inside of my nose was full of weeping, > > bleeding wounds. Sorry about that, but it was really painful and > lasted > > about two months. I was astonished with this as I have never had > any > > trouble with my nose. I felt like my whole face was infected and > > inflamed. I didn't eat healthily at the time or start any eating > plans > > to detox, so I think that maybe these things just happen when you > make > > drastic changes, no matter what you eat. I'd say stick with it > for a > > while and wait it out. Hope this helps. Love Shell. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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