I agree, Rufus

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I find it amusing how Shell thinks it's so hateful to

have a civil discusson on homosexulaity. But at the

same time she thinks it's ok to hate of " phanatically

Christian " , " right wing views " .

 

Rufus

 

I find it interesting (and certainly not surprising), that any viewpoints are

tolerated, except when it is accused of being 'religious'. Religion, however,

is defined as 'a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the

universe; a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed

upon by a number of persons or sects " . Religion is having a belief system,

plain and simple. So, most of you appear to have a religion of 'there is no

God'. That is your freedom to believe as such. However, recognize that that is

your religion!!! Christians are accused of being closed-minded and intolerant,

but non-Christians can be accused of the same behavior. Seems most of you don't

like to admit it. You talk about tolerance, but are definitely INtolerant of

those whose belief is founded on the Bible.

 

Karen

 

 

 

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> I find it interesting (and certainly not surprising), that any

viewpoints are tolerated, except when it is accused of being

'religious'. Religion, however, is defined as 'a set of beliefs

concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the universe; a specific

fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a

number of persons or sects " . Religion is having a belief system,

plain and simple. So, most of you appear to have a religion of 'there

is no God'. That is your freedom to believe as such. However,

recognize that that is your religion!!! Christians are accused of

being closed-minded and intolerant, but non-Christians can be accused

of the same behavior. Seems most of you don't like to admit it. You

talk about tolerance, but are definitely INtolerant of those whose

belief is founded on the Bible.

>

> Karen

 

anyone who doesnt bow down to your opinion is looked down upon. and

you are being bigoted and mean spirited towards a homosexual on this

board. debating weather he is right or wrong. I HATE CHRISTIANS with a

passion, but you wont see me on here spouting off about the millions

of things that are wrong with your bible, your history, and the blood

of millions. how you fail to be like christ (accepting, forgiving,

good spirited) and spew out hate and intolerance to others. not asking

you to be open minded, but to be considerate of others in a place that

should be judgement free. christians don't " OWN " raw foodism..

 

END IT NOW. this is not the theistic debate forum.

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Roger,

 

I am very uncomfortable with Bryan's e-mail below. I

feel that it should be grounds for his removal from

this forum. It is inexcusable. Bryan and his ilk are

the ones guilty of intolerance and hatred. We were

debating an issue, expressing views on homosexuality,

and are now the targets of Bryan's hatred. I

understand folks getting passionate about debate, but

this is too much.

 

Brian,

FYI. I am not a Christian, nor am I a right winger.

 

Rufus

 

 

 

--- Bryan Erickson <hexfix93 wrote:

>

> > I find it interesting (and certainly not

> surprising), that any

> viewpoints are tolerated, except when it is accused

> of being

> 'religious'. Religion, however, is defined as 'a

> set of beliefs

> concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the

> universe; a specific

> fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally

> agreed upon by a

> number of persons or sects " . Religion is having a

> belief system,

> plain and simple. So, most of you appear to have a

> religion of 'there

> is no God'. That is your freedom to believe as

> such. However,

> recognize that that is your religion!!! Christians

> are accused of

> being closed-minded and intolerant, but

> non-Christians can be accused

> of the same behavior. Seems most of you don't like

> to admit it. You

> talk about tolerance, but are definitely INtolerant

> of those whose

> belief is founded on the Bible.

> >

> > Karen

>

> anyone who doesnt bow down to your opinion is looked

> down upon. and

> you are being bigoted and mean spirited towards a

> homosexual on this

> board. debating weather he is right or wrong. I HATE

> CHRISTIANS with a

> passion, but you wont see me on here spouting off

> about the millions

> of things that are wrong with your bible, your

> history, and the blood

> of millions. how you fail to be like christ

> (accepting, forgiving,

> good spirited) and spew out hate and intolerance to

> others. not asking

> you to be open minded, but to be considerate of

> others in a place that

> should be judgement free. christians don't " OWN " raw

> foodism..

>

> END IT NOW. this is not the theistic debate forum.

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Roger,

 

I am very uncomfortable with Bryan's e-mail below. I

feel that it should be grounds for his removal from

this forum. It is inexcusable. Bryan and his ilk are

the ones guilty of intolerance and hatred. We were

debating an issue, expressing views on homosexuality,

and are now the targets of Bryan's hatred. I

understand folks getting passionate about debate, but

this is too much.

 

Brian,

FYI. I am not a Christian, nor am I a right winger.

[RH]

Hi Rufus,

 

I understand where you are coming from. I haven't seen too many posts in

here attacking homosexuals. The posts having to do with homosexuality

weren't filled with anger. It seems that all the posts from people

counter to that viewpoint were filled with anger. As if anyone with a

contrary viewpoint was crazy and that they had the right to be mad.

 

I've also just read some of the other posts from Bryan. He obviously

hasn't read your posts. You weren't attacking homosexuals at any time.

 

That last post from Bryan was not pleasant and I hope he tones down his

anger in the future. That is one of the main things I don't want to see

in this group. I don't want this to be like other groups where the

members are constantly attacking each other.

 

Let's have debate but in a friendly way. That way if we are wrong we can

admit it and move on. As mentioned before the whole issue came about due

to discussing the Germ Theory and what I call the AIDS Hoax.

 

Yes some two of the posts brought up religion, but they were brought up

in a respectful way. Just so you know I am not a Christian either and

never have been. Also I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

 

I do think that we need to be tolerant of each other.

 

I'm also not going to expel Bryan from the group. But I hope that Bryan

will not have too many more posts like this last one. Bryan keep the

content and try to tone down the anger a bit. It's not healthy to hate.

 

Roger

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Roger

 

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I wanted to drop

this a long time ago, but was surprised by some of the

posts. I will not respond to posts like this in the

future.

 

Rufus

 

 

 

 

--- Roger Haeske <roger wrote:

> Roger,

>

> I am very uncomfortable with Bryan's e-mail below.

> I

> feel that it should be grounds for his removal from

> this forum. It is inexcusable. Bryan and his ilk

> are

> the ones guilty of intolerance and hatred. We were

> debating an issue, expressing views on

> homosexuality,

> and are now the targets of Bryan's hatred. I

> understand folks getting passionate about debate,

> but

> this is too much.

>

> Brian,

> FYI. I am not a Christian, nor am I a right winger.

> [RH]

> Hi Rufus,

>

> I understand where you are coming from. I haven't

> seen too many posts in

> here attacking homosexuals. The posts having to do

> with homosexuality

> weren't filled with anger. It seems that all the

> posts from people

> counter to that viewpoint were filled with anger. As

> if anyone with a

> contrary viewpoint was crazy and that they had the

> right to be mad.

>

> I've also just read some of the other posts from

> Bryan. He obviously

> hasn't read your posts. You weren't attacking

> homosexuals at any time.

>

> That last post from Bryan was not pleasant and I

> hope he tones down his

> anger in the future. That is one of the main things

> I don't want to see

> in this group. I don't want this to be like other

> groups where the

> members are constantly attacking each other.

>

> Let's have debate but in a friendly way. That way if

> we are wrong we can

> admit it and move on. As mentioned before the whole

> issue came about due

> to discussing the Germ Theory and what I call the

> AIDS Hoax.

>

> Yes some two of the posts brought up religion, but

> they were brought up

> in a respectful way. Just so you know I am not a

> Christian either and

> never have been. Also I don't think there is

> anything wrong with that.

>

> I do think that we need to be tolerant of each

> other.

>

> I'm also not going to expel Bryan from the group.

> But I hope that Bryan

> will not have too many more posts like this last

> one. Bryan keep the

> content and try to tone down the anger a bit. It's

> not healthy to hate.

>

> Roger

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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>

> I'm also not going to expel Bryan from the group. But I hope that

Bryan will not have too many more posts like this last one. Bryan keep

the content and try to tone down the anger a bit. It's not healthy to

hate.

>

> Roger

 

Thanks. I apriciate it, i am here because i am raw, i am pro rights

for animals, nature, females, homosexuals and minorites. i get my

feathers ruffled rather easily, i have been discriminated against my

whole life for being different, for being pro all the things i am pro,

i come from colorado, the buckle of the bible belt, and being vegan

let alone a raw one is tough in this very backwards place where i

reside.. in a sense i come to the net to escape these things that

oppress the likes of me in my home town, only to be disturbed when i

see even a shimmering of a resemblance of the arrogant denial of my

acceptance of nature, animals, females, gays and minorities.

 

its disrespectful to say gay is wrong. how about gay is wrong " FOR

YOU " . i can live with that.

 

my rage is easily provoked, i didn't have a great upbringing in this

town with my views and lifestyle and i have had to swallow other

peoples S* & ^% for my entire life. i get sick of it is all. especially

the dis-respect thing.