Raw Vegan diet (Peter)

November 14, 2003

" Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote:

> Primates and you may include humans in that category can eat meat

> and get away with it. Dogs can go vegetarian if their owners push

> it. Cattle can feed on the caucuses of other cattle cooked but

> eventually disease break out. With humans we call it heart

> disease, diabetes, Cancer, MS. Then there is mad cow disease and

> more cancer in chicken and the food chain than there is even in

> humans.

You have just touched me with this thought! Really, I have never

seen under that point of view. The only thing here is that chimps and

other hunter primates (I am not speaking here about worms and bugs in

fruits or on leaves accidentally eaten) voluntarily go for a hunting

(I guess for meat; here it very well might be for social affairs and

the eating of meat was a simple by-product of their behaviour). By

the other side, I'm practically convinced into turnig vegan again. I

hope raw-no_grain was a very different animal from cooked-grain vegan

diet. What is making me do the change and jump to it is seeing people

as you, or as Haeske, going up and up and enjoying.

w

November 16, 2003

w,

It is right that chimps flirt about with meat although not as much as

humans. Then a cow will eat the odd dead bird it comes across in a

field, if the signal that it needs more phosphorous hits it. A cat will

eat cat grass, a dog will eat berries, a goat will eat almost anything

and so forth. Nature is not doctrinaire and it is experimental or there

would be no division of species.

However in the long run a beast refines its digestion to eat a staple

ordained by nature.

Of the mammals, the only ones that cannot make vitamin C are the

primates as there is so much about in our natural diet. Carnivores have

to make their own. Long ago, the device that makes it became as

redundant as the appendix, the human canine teeth and the male nipple.

Of the primates we may distinguish two broad groups. The frugivores and

the foliars (or do we say foliovores for leaf eaters?). The leaves tend

to be on hand year round and they are more difficult to digest but if

the digestion can manage them, a larger and more robust animal evolves.

However these leaves require the sets up of compartments in the lower

digestive tract to ferment them. There is a lot of wind in the process.

Mountain gorillas, for example have not the need for the frenetic energy

of the frugivores. The latter have a more hectic time. That fresh ripe

fruit is ephemeral. They have to run miles to get it, there is a fair

bet it will not be ready when inspection comes etc. There is infinitely

more variety and danger. They even developed a refined sense of colour

to help in the task The need to communicate became ever more pressing.

Small wonder that the frugivores have bigger brains and long small

intestines just as we do and smaller than our distant foliar cousins.

With such habits when man dropped to the forest floor and shifted his

diet again, he developed a voice box and a brain to go with it. And

there are those who posit the notion that bone marrow and cooking meat

enabled the human brain to grow. Two and ten million years later, that

brain box working overtime that had our ancestors running all over the

place looking for the right thing to eat and testing everything, is

still growing on the same tasks...

Peter

rawsunlife [no_reply ]

14 November 2003 11:00

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[Raw Food] Raw Vegan diet (Peter)

" Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote:

> Primates and you may include humans in that category can eat meat and

> get away with it. Dogs can go vegetarian if their owners push it.

> Cattle can feed on the caucuses of other cattle cooked but eventually

> disease break out. With humans we call it heart disease, diabetes,

> Cancer, MS. Then there is mad cow disease and more cancer in chicken

> and the food chain than there is even in humans.