Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 This sounds fabulous!! I would definitely be in on Nama Shoyu and almonds. In fact, I've been wanting to buy almonds anyway, so is anyone up for splitting with me? We could split the order 5 ways (max.), so me and 4 others. Let me know. Thanks! ~Jennifer - " Stephen Bard " <StephenBard <RawSeattle > Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:11 PM [RawSeattle] nama shoyu : We can order 4.75gal of nama shoyu for $112.95 + $15 shipping from goldmine : natural food 18004753663. Also other bulk stuff. Anderson Almonds has 25 : pounds of organic almonds for $117.44 (includes shipping) -- that's only : $4.70 per pound. We should leverage the power of our community by doing more : bulk orders together. : I want to make a website utility that will allow people to sign up for : orders, and to sign up to be coordinators for orders. As soon as enough : people sign up, the utility will send an email to the coordinator with the : info on what to buy and from where and how much, and the coordinator will : buy it and then distribute to those who signed up, at potlucks etc. I need : to hear from Eric as to what scripting our server supports on the backend : and then i'll write the program. : : : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 I'd be up to spliting on both the almonds and the nama shoyu. I'm also about to receive a case of olives from Nature's first Law which I'm willing to share. Socorro Maia --- " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer wrote: >This sounds fabulous!! I would definitely be in on Nama Shoyu and almonds. >In fact, I've been wanting to buy almonds anyway, so is anyone up for >splitting with me? We could split the order 5 ways (max.), so me and 4 >others. Let me know. > >Thanks! >~Jennifer > >- > " Stephen Bard " <StephenBard ><RawSeattle > >Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:11 PM >[RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > >: We can order 4.75gal of nama shoyu for $112.95 + $15 shipping from >goldmine >: natural food 18004753663. Also other bulk stuff. Anderson Almonds has 25 >: pounds of organic almonds for $117.44 (includes shipping) -- that's only >: $4.70 per pound. We should leverage the power of our community by doing >more >: bulk orders together. >: I want to make a website utility that will allow people to sign up for >: orders, and to sign up to be coordinators for orders. As soon as enough >: people sign up, the utility will send an email to the coordinator with the >: info on what to buy and from where and how much, and the coordinator will >: buy it and then distribute to those who signed up, at potlucks etc. I need >: to hear from Eric as to what scripting our server supports on the backend >: and then i'll write the program. >: >: >: >: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 I can take 10 or 15 lbs of almonds. Helen - " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer <RawSeattle > Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:09 AM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > This sounds fabulous!! I would definitely be in on Nama Shoyu and almonds. > In fact, I've been wanting to buy almonds anyway, so is anyone up for > splitting with me? We could split the order 5 ways (max.), so me and 4 > others. Let me know. > > Thanks! > ~Jennifer > > - > " Stephen Bard " <StephenBard > <RawSeattle > > Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:11 PM > [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > : We can order 4.75gal of nama shoyu for $112.95 + $15 shipping from > goldmine > : natural food 18004753663. Also other bulk stuff. Anderson Almonds has 25 > : pounds of organic almonds for $117.44 (includes shipping) -- that's only > : $4.70 per pound. We should leverage the power of our community by doing > more > : bulk orders together. > : I want to make a website utility that will allow people to sign up for > : orders, and to sign up to be coordinators for orders. As soon as enough > : people sign up, the utility will send an email to the coordinator with the > : info on what to buy and from where and how much, and the coordinator will > : buy it and then distribute to those who signed up, at potlucks etc. I need > : to hear from Eric as to what scripting our server supports on the backend > : and then i'll write the program. > : > : > : > : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 & if you get more than 5 people total you can just order more cases at the same time and save a bit on shipping. I already got my case of 25 pounds and will bring it around to potlucks when i can. - " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer <RawSeattle > Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:09 AM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > This sounds fabulous!! I would definitely be in on Nama Shoyu and almonds. > In fact, I've been wanting to buy almonds anyway, so is anyone up for > splitting with me? We could split the order 5 ways (max.), so me and 4 > others. Let me know. > > Thanks! > ~Jennifer > > - > " Stephen Bard " <StephenBard > <RawSeattle > > Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:11 PM > [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > : We can order 4.75gal of nama shoyu for $112.95 + $15 shipping from > goldmine > : natural food 18004753663. Also other bulk stuff. Anderson Almonds has 25 > : pounds of organic almonds for $117.44 (includes shipping) -- that's only > : $4.70 per pound. We should leverage the power of our community by doing > more > : bulk orders together. > : I want to make a website utility that will allow people to sign up for > : orders, and to sign up to be coordinators for orders. As soon as enough > : people sign up, the utility will send an email to the coordinator with the > : info on what to buy and from where and how much, and the coordinator will > : buy it and then distribute to those who signed up, at potlucks etc. I need > : to hear from Eric as to what scripting our server supports on the backend > : and then i'll write the program. > : > : > : > : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Jennifer, Are you gonna make the order for almonds or shall I? Helen - " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer <RawSeattle > Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:09 AM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > This sounds fabulous!! I would definitely be in on Nama Shoyu and almonds. > In fact, I've been wanting to buy almonds anyway, so is anyone up for > splitting with me? We could split the order 5 ways (max.), so me and 4 > others. Let me know. > > Thanks! > ~Jennifer > > - > " Stephen Bard " <StephenBard > <RawSeattle > > Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:11 PM > [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > : We can order 4.75gal of nama shoyu for $112.95 + $15 shipping from > goldmine > : natural food 18004753663. Also other bulk stuff. Anderson Almonds has 25 > : pounds of organic almonds for $117.44 (includes shipping) -- that's only > : $4.70 per pound. We should leverage the power of our community by doing > more > : bulk orders together. > : I want to make a website utility that will allow people to sign up for > : orders, and to sign up to be coordinators for orders. As soon as enough > : people sign up, the utility will send an email to the coordinator with the > : info on what to buy and from where and how much, and the coordinator will > : buy it and then distribute to those who signed up, at potlucks etc. I need > : to hear from Eric as to what scripting our server supports on the backend > : and then i'll write the program. > : > : > : > : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 - Joyce Divic Saturday, December 15, 2001 5:27 PM tualRawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu+almonds Stephen, I contemplated not responding to your reply since I do not want to be apart of a pee-pee match. But, my motivation is to uphold a TRUTH/FACT that won't harm you or anyone. The information I relayed to the raw food community it NOT HARMFUL and it does not DIVIDE! YES people will make up their own minds I have no control over this or any vested interest? Perhaps some people in the greater raw community would appreciate some straight/raw truth in lieu of pursuing addiction transference? By the way, my e-mail, was not an argument! You are the one who is projecting this perspective into the information and experience I passed along! The only argument that is going on is in your own mind! I sense that you don't like when you hear information that perhaps challenges your own unexamined belief or behavior. It is Okay that you are not ready to be weaned off Nama Shoyu but, by the response I received about the mail info I passed along, there are people in the community that really appreciate the facts and are interested in moving on. By labeling me as having a "religious type argument" can only be a judgment on your part. What is there to justify about Nama Shoyu? It is what is it? It is not a religious argument. Can we not be honest with each other about such substances? You and I could argue about whether something is raw or not until we've used up all that precious energy that we both gathered from nature, but what would the point be? How does this empower you or I? Whether someone is right or wrong is a construct of the intellect and therefore is limited in its use. It only supports the ego needs and doesn't cut to the truth of the matter. My intention is to free not to limit. As far as enzymes are concerned: when a food is freshly picked it houses all the enzymes available to assimilate it PERIOD. My natural instinct is drawn to fresh foods not rotting ones. Try feeding rotten matter to a child and then you will truly appreciate the power of nature and be in a honest position about trusting your own instincts in this matter. In the meanwhile, all the nama shoyu power to you! joyce - Stephen Bardto Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:55 PM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu+almonds This is one of those religious type arguments that divides the raw community. There is no question that nama shoyu is not as raw as fresh fruits and vegetables. The issue of whether a product that has been killed and then "revived" via microbial action is sufficiently alive to be considered raw should be a personal one and based on conversations with your own body intelligence. Nama shoyu certainly contains lots of enzymes. As for the argument that we are eating the waste products of microorganisms, I personally believe that this argument just taps into our society's obsession with shit being bad in general. Plants certainly "eat" the waste products of microorganisms, and there are plenty of microorganisms in the plants we eat (excreting waste products into those plants' interiors in small amounts), and the microorganisms in our intestines excrete lots of waste products. Why should I assume that my body can't handle (or even thrive on) small amounts of waste products from microorganisms? In any case I shall choose to spend more time deciding the answer for myself. In addition, for those of us on transitional diets, nama shoyu can perhaps make things easier. I for one would like to think that my body will guide me to eat a simpler and simpler diet but I'm not there yet. At the moment salt is still "interesting" to me. Perhaps that's just a sign of my residual toxicities and food addictions: but the important thing is, I'm having fun and I feel healthier than I ever have before! Peace in cleansing, Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 I want almonds. 10-15lbs. Thanks Paula - " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer <RawSeattle > Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:09 AM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > This sounds fabulous!! I would definitely be in on Nama Shoyu and almonds. > In fact, I've been wanting to buy almonds anyway, so is anyone up for > splitting with me? We could split the order 5 ways (max.), so me and 4 > others. Let me know. > > Thanks! > ~Jennifer > > - > " Stephen Bard " <StephenBard > <RawSeattle > > Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:11 PM > [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > : We can order 4.75gal of nama shoyu for $112.95 + $15 shipping from > goldmine > : natural food 18004753663. Also other bulk stuff. Anderson Almonds has 25 > : pounds of organic almonds for $117.44 (includes shipping) -- that's only > : $4.70 per pound. We should leverage the power of our community by doing > more > : bulk orders together. > : I want to make a website utility that will allow people to sign up for > : orders, and to sign up to be coordinators for orders. As soon as enough > : people sign up, the utility will send an email to the coordinator with the > : info on what to buy and from where and how much, and the coordinator will > : buy it and then distribute to those who signed up, at potlucks etc. I need > : to hear from Eric as to what scripting our server supports on the backend > : and then i'll write the program. > : > : > : > : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 Hm. I didn't say that you were being argumentative or even that we were having an "argument". By the word "argument" I really meant the traditional sense of extended sequence of rhetoric. I'm sorry that didn't come across clearly to you and that you thought I was labeling you, calling you argumentative. However, please let it be clear that that is not what I was doing with my words. What I meant is that the whole nama shoyu argument tends to get bounced around the raw community a lot and you will find that there are people who are absolutely against it for very valid reasons similar to the ones you state, and then there are those who use it for what seems to be also fairly valid reasons, though perhaps just as a temporary, transitional thing to ease out of old addictions by as you say, replacing them with other addictions (hopefully somewhat more healthy ones) with the eventual goal of getting out of addictions altogether. The problem I have seen in other email threads on other raw groups is that the two groups have trouble talking to each other and understanding each other's equally valid points of view, and they appear to me to get polarized against each other's points of view just like religious groups do sometimes. Each of us has our own path to true health and I would say that no one knows what is right for another person. peace in cleansing, Stephen - Joyce Divic RawSeattle Saturday, December 15, 2001 5:37 PM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu - Joyce Divic Saturday, December 15, 2001 5:27 PM tualRawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu+almonds Stephen, I contemplated not responding to your reply since I do not want to be apart of a pee-pee match. But, my motivation is to uphold a TRUTH/FACT that won't harm you or anyone. The information I relayed to the raw food community it NOT HARMFUL and it does not DIVIDE! YES people will make up their own minds I have no control over this or any vested interest? Perhaps some people in the greater raw community would appreciate some straight/raw truth in lieu of pursuing addiction transference? By the way, my e-mail, was not an argument! You are the one who is projecting this perspective into the information and experience I passed along! The only argument that is going on is in your own mind! I sense that you don't like when you hear information that perhaps challenges your own unexamined belief or behavior. It is Okay that you are not ready to be weaned off Nama Shoyu but, by the response I received about the mail info I passed along, there are people in the community that really appreciate the facts and are interested in moving on. By labeling me as having a "religious type argument" can only be a judgment on your part. What is there to justify about Nama Shoyu? It is what is it? It is not a religious argument. Can we not be honest with each other about such substances? You and I could argue about whether something is raw or not until we've used up all that precious energy that we both gathered from nature, but what would the point be? How does this empower you or I? Whether someone is right or wrong is a construct of the intellect and therefore is limited in its use. It only supports the ego needs and doesn't cut to the truth of the matter. My intention is to free not to limit. As far as enzymes are concerned: when a food is freshly picked it houses all the enzymes available to assimilate it PERIOD. My natural instinct is drawn to fresh foods not rotting ones. Try feeding rotten matter to a child and then you will truly appreciate the power of nature and be in a honest position about trusting your own instincts in this matter. In the meanwhile, all the nama shoyu power to you! joyce - Stephen Bardto Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:55 PM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu+almonds This is one of those religious type arguments that divides the raw community. There is no question that nama shoyu is not as raw as fresh fruits and vegetables. The issue of whether a product that has been killed and then "revived" via microbial action is sufficiently alive to be considered raw should be a personal one and based on conversations with your own body intelligence. Nama shoyu certainly contains lots of enzymes. As for the argument that we are eating the waste products of microorganisms, I personally believe that this argument just taps into our society's obsession with shit being bad in general. Plants certainly "eat" the waste products of microorganisms, and there are plenty of microorganisms in the plants we eat (excreting waste products into those plants' interiors in small amounts), and the microorganisms in our intestines excrete lots of waste products. Why should I assume that my body can't handle (or even thrive on) small amounts of waste products from microorganisms? In any case I shall choose to spend more time deciding the answer for myself. In addition, for those of us on transitional diets, nama shoyu can perhaps make things easier. I for one would like to think that my body will guide me to eat a simpler and simpler diet but I'm not there yet. At the moment salt is still "interesting" to me. Perhaps that's just a sign of my residual toxicities and food addictions: but the important thing is, I'm having fun and I feel healthier than I ever have before! Peace in cleansing, Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 It may take me a few more days -- like until after Christmas -- before I place an order, so go ahead. Hope to see you soon! Peace~ Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 OK, I'll do it. How much shall we order? Would those who want almonds let me how many pounds you want? Helen - " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer <RawSeattle > Monday, December 17, 2001 1:12 PM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > It may take me a few more days -- like until after Christmas -- before I > place an order, so go ahead. Hope to see you soon! > > Peace~ > Jennifer > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 How much per lb? - " Helen " <helensy <RawSeattle > Monday, December 17, 2001 10:17 PM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > OK, I'll do it. How much shall we order? Would those who want almonds let me > how many pounds you want? > > Helen > - > " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer > <RawSeattle > > Monday, December 17, 2001 1:12 PM > Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > > It may take me a few more days -- like until after Christmas -- before I > > place an order, so go ahead. Hope to see you soon! > > > > Peace~ > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 about $5.00 per pound, from what I heard. helen - " Paula Belcher " <greenmates <RawSeattle > Monday, December 17, 2001 10:18 PM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > How much per lb? > > - > " Helen " <helensy > <RawSeattle > > Monday, December 17, 2001 10:17 PM > Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > > OK, I'll do it. How much shall we order? Would those who want almonds let > me > > how many pounds you want? > > > > Helen > > - > > " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer > > <RawSeattle > > > Monday, December 17, 2001 1:12 PM > > Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > > > > > It may take me a few more days -- like until after Christmas -- before I > > > place an order, so go ahead. Hope to see you soon! > > > > > > Peace~ > > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 ok,helen, and thanks for ordering, so, it is andersen almonds, 4.70/lbs, if you order 25 lbs or more (shipping included), yes, i want at least 10 lbs asap, are there any more stuff like that? love ya all, a tt i l a --- Helen <helensy wrote: > OK, I'll do it. How much shall we order? Would those > who want almonds let me > how many pounds you want? > > Helen > - > " Jennifer Wheeler " > <Jennifer > <RawSeattle > > Monday, December 17, 2001 1:12 PM > Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > > It may take me a few more days -- like until after > Christmas -- before I > > place an order, so go ahead. Hope to see you > soon! > > > > Peace~ > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 10lbs for me. - " attila madaras " <Attila86 <RawSeattle > Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:09 PM Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > ok,helen, and thanks for ordering, > so, it is andersen almonds, 4.70/lbs, if you order > 25 lbs or more (shipping included), yes, i want at > least 10 lbs asap, > are there any more stuff like that? > love ya all, a tt i l a > > > --- Helen <helensy wrote: > > OK, I'll do it. How much shall we order? Would those > > who want almonds let me > > how many pounds you want? > > > > Helen > > - > > " Jennifer Wheeler " > > <Jennifer > > <RawSeattle > > > Monday, December 17, 2001 1:12 PM > > Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > > > > > It may take me a few more days -- like until after > > Christmas -- before I > > > place an order, so go ahead. Hope to see you > > soon! > > > > > > Peace~ > > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 I'll take 5 lbs. almonds and 1 lb. nama shoyu. -Tim --- Helen <helensy wrote: > OK, I'll do it. How much shall we order? Would those who want almonds let me > how many pounds you want? > > Helen > - > " Jennifer Wheeler " <Jennifer > <RawSeattle > > Monday, December 17, 2001 1:12 PM > Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu > > > > It may take me a few more days -- like until after Christmas -- before I > > place an order, so go ahead. Hope to see you soon! > > > > Peace~ > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 I just called them. It is $3.65/lb for organic nama shoyu in bulk. Tim Lottridge --- Shari V <shavig wrote: > You can get the same Nama Shoyu that NFL sells at the Bellingham Co-op and > no I don't know how much it is, just that it's cheaper than the " imported " > stuff. > > Shari Viger > Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 Thanks all for the info. I hope to get up there soon! - " Timothy D. Lottridge " <mitnors <RawSeattle > Friday, January 04, 2002 5:52 PM Re: [RawSeattle] Nama Shoyu : I just called them. It is $3.65/lb for organic nama shoyu in bulk. : : Tim Lottridge : : --- Shari V <shavig wrote: : > You can get the same Nama Shoyu that NFL sells at the Bellingham Co-op and : > no I don't know how much it is, just that it's cheaper than the " imported " : > stuff. : > : > Shari Viger : > : : : : : Send FREE video emails in Mail! : http://promo./videomail/ : : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 We use the juice from the olives-morrocan, italian or kalamata (the ones Linda Reeves now offers), as a salt/nama shoyu substitute in salad dressings and recipes. It contains celtic sea salt, and the flavor of the olives, garlic, etc...very tasty! - Shari V Undisclosed-Recipient:@spok.premier1.net; Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:02 PM [RawSeattle] nama shoyu I received this from a raw fooder who used to live in this area (for those of you in the Seattle area, I got this from Trudy Olson). Thought I would just pass it along.................Shari V Dear raw food chefs and interested friends: Is there any possible way raw food chefs can stop or limit their use Nama Shoyu (and gluten-containing misos)? The use in recipes encourages so many new raw fooders to use it. It contains wheat which is a grain as you know and most raw fooders don't eat grains. Many people are sensitive to wheat and for those with celiac disease ( many are becoming raw foodists and the experts think that 50%of > the population has undiagnosed celiac disease or gluten sensitivities) it is poison. Many raw fooders have stopped going to potlucks, including me, because new people especially seem to use it in many of their dishes. Some raw fooders, who don' t know whether they have sensitivities, have told me it has made them sick. Gluten molecules are large and the smallest amount can wreak havoc to the villi in the small intestine. It is poison to celiacs and other gluten and wheat-sensitive people. Even wheat-free tamari contains barley which is another gluten grain. Also most raw misos contain gluten even though they are not labeled. The gluten grains are wheat, oats, barley, rye, spelt, triticale , semolina and kamut. Thank you for your consideration. I do appreciate it. Please pass this on to other raw food chefs. Helen Hecker R.N. (going on 4 years -100% raw foods) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 I think it is raw soy sauce, although I don't think purists will use it. I haven't been able to find any and am not sure though. ~Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 > I think it is raw soy sauce, although I don't think purists will use it. I > haven't been able to find any and am not sure though. > ~Wendy http://www.rawganique.com/Food1.htm#nama rusty - " ky_wendylynn " <ky_wendylynn <rawfood > Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:32 AM [Raw Food] Nama Shoyu > I think it is raw soy sauce, although I don't think purists will use it. I > haven't been able to find any and am not sure though. > ~Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Thanks Rusty! ~Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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