Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Just got the book this week - very good, interesting read and some old favourites and new recipies full of color and (hopefully!! ha ha) taste to try out on the family over the next few weeks! Just curious as to the further reading section though - I see that it's advertising 'Diary of a raw pregnancy', that book's not yet available is it? I'd love to find out where I can get a copy of it if I can but I heard Karen Knowler wasn't raw any more - if that's true then is that why the book can't be found anywhere? Love to hear from anybody who's seen a copy and please let me know where I can get one! Love Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 In a message dated 12/4/2003 5:35:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, carolecannon2000 writes: Just got the book this week - very good, interesting read and some old favourites and new recipies full of color and (hopefully!! ha ha) taste to try out on the family over the next few weeks! Just curious as to the further reading section though - I see that it's advertising 'Diary of a raw pregnancy', that book's not yet available is it? I'd love to find out where I can get a copy of it if I can but I heard Karen Knowler wasn't raw any more - if that's true then is that why the book can't be found anywhere? Love to hear from anybody who's seen a copy and please let me know where I can get one! Love Carole Why did Karen stop being raw? Is there anything about this online, like an article she wrote about her switch? Judy Judy Pokras editor/founder/designer http://www.RawFoodsNews.com An online newsmagazine featuring authoritative info, breaking news, and fun interactive features on the raw vegan lifestyle. * Rated Number 1 in the Webseed Directory's most interesting sites list, based on how many articles a person looks at in any one visit. * Recommended by Writer's Digest, EnergyTimes, The Vegan Guide to NYC, the Japanese magazine Engine, and the national radio program Carolyn Craft's Inner Wisdom. *See what people are saying about Raw Foods News: http://www.fastcompany.com/fast50/profile/?pokras252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 rawfood , " carolecannon2000 " <carolecannon2000> wrote: > I heard Karen Knowler wasn't raw any more - if that's true then is > that why the book can't be found anywhere? Not true. She's not 100% but she's still high raw. Did you check Fresh Network's website? Bridgitte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 In a message dated 12/5/2003 10:50:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, syndactylcat writes: > Why did Karen stop being raw? Is there anything about this online, like an > article she wrote about her switch? > Karen didn't stop being raw. She's not 100% raw, but she is still high raw. I'm on a group with her, and although I don't know the specifics, it came about because her son was raw and not developing as he should. She and Pete experimented with adding different things to his diet, found something that worked and he is now where he should be for his age. They dedided to follow suit. They've been very open about it and seem to be happy doing whatever it is they're doing (i'm fairly certain they added dairy of some sort to their diet). I'm all for people doing whatever works for them, whether it's 100% raw or just adding a salad and some fruit to their diet... Bridgitte Thanks Bridgitte. Me too! Judy Pokras editor/founder/designer http://www.RawFoodsNews.com An online newsmagazine featuring authoritative info, breaking news, and fun interactive features on the raw vegan lifestyle. * Rated Number 1 in the Webseed Directory's most interesting sites list, based on how many articles a person looks at in any one visit. * Recommended by Writer's Digest, EnergyTimes, The Vegan Guide to NYC, the Japanese magazine Engine, and the national radio program Carolyn Craft's Inner Wisdom. *See what people are saying about Raw Foods News: http://www.fastcompany.com/fast50/profile/?pokras252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 > Why did Karen stop being raw? Is there anything about this online, like an > article she wrote about her switch? > Karen didn't stop being raw. She's not 100% raw, but she is still high raw. I'm on a group with her, and although I don't know the specifics, it came about because her son was raw and not developing as he should. She and Pete experimented with adding different things to his diet, found something that worked and he is now where he should be for his age. They dedided to follow suit. They've been very open about it and seem to be happy doing whatever it is they're doing (i'm fairly certain they added dairy of some sort to their diet). I'm all for people doing whatever works for them, whether it's 100% raw or just adding a salad and some fruit to their diet... Bridgitte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Hi Bridgitte, I just read this in the Fresh Net Group - I don't want to get into a 'is she or isn't she' thread but she says herself in that group " The Fresh Network has NEVER been a network promoting 100% raw food above any other amount, and as Pete said, the whole 'cooked food is poison' thing has never been something we have ever said or supported. " . I was under the impression it WAS about raw food myself. Pete previously said " You had better remind all the people who condone and support Jesus that he ripped up some fish and served them with some crusty bread rolls. " - I think bringing religion into this is a very cheap way to put a point across and I'm quite disappointed with this attitude. Much love Carole rawfood , " Bridgitte " <syndactylcat> wrote: > > Why did Karen stop being raw? Is there anything about this online, > like an > > article she wrote about her switch? > > > Karen didn't stop being raw. She's not 100% raw, but she is still > high raw. I'm on a group with her, and although I don't know the > specifics, it came about because her son was raw and not developing > as he should. She and Pete experimented with adding different things > to his diet, found something that worked and he is now where he > should be for his age. They dedided to follow suit. They've been > very open about it and seem to be happy doing whatever it is they're > doing (i'm fairly certain they added dairy of some sort to their > diet). I'm all for people doing whatever works for them, whether > it's 100% raw or just adding a salad and some fruit to their diet... > > Bridgitte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 > Why did Karen stop being raw? Is there anything about this online, like an > article she wrote about her switch? > Karen didn't stop being raw. She's not 100% raw, but she is still high raw. I'm on a group with her, and although I don't know the specifics, it came about because her son was raw and not developing as he should. [RH] Wow, it seems to me from the comment you made that Karen really misunderstood something. A raw child should be developing much slower than a cooked food child. This means that they are going to be living longer. According to the World Health Organization the average age of puberty in 1840 was seventeen. At present the average age of puberty is about 13 years of age. In " Eat to Live " on pages 77-80 Dr. Fuhrman talks about the increased health risks of early maturation. A good sign of health is that these children are developing slower and are smaller than today's unhealthy children. I think Karen should read those pages and stop trying to have her child be like the average sick westernized child. It's tough to know what to do if you don't have the right information. I hope someone forwards this info to her and that she gets Dr. Fuhrman's book. From Eat to Live: " It is common knowledge among physicians that the earlier a woman matures, as measured by the age of her first menstrual period, the higher the risk of breast cancer. " " Women are not the only sex affected; the same increased risk as a result of early maturation is seen with both prostate cancer and testicular cancer. If we grow and mature more rapidly, we increase our cancer risk and age faster. We see the same thing in lab animals; if we feed them so they grow faster, they die younger. " " The public as well as the media are confused about this issue. They continue to associate the term better nutrition with earlier maturity and larger stature resulting from our greater consumption of animal protein and animal fats. These unfavorable trends are repeatedly reported as positive events. Earlier writers and nutritionists have mistakenly equated rapid growth with health. I believe an increased rate of growth is not a good thing. The slower a child grows, the slower he or she is aging. Slower growth, taking longer to reach maturity, is predictive of a longer life in animal studies. We are finding the same thing in humans: an unnaturally rapid growth and premature puberty are risk factors for cancers and other diseases later in life. Evidence continues to mount that these same factors leading to early maturity and excessive growth in childhood increase the occurrence of cancer in general, not just breast and prostate cancer. Excluding malnutrition or serious disease, the slower we grow and mature, the longer we live. " Roger Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach, Roger Haeske, the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn how to go 100% RAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Hi Roger, Weight and physical maturity aren't (and should never be) the only measurements for a healthy child. A mother knows if her child is not as he/she should be and should always act on it as she sees fit. Nutritional deficiencies and other imbalances can cause far greater problems in babies than adults and each situation is different. I think Karen was in a very difficult situation and did not want to hang around. Perhaps you should e-mail her privately or join the freshnetgroup if you want to know more? Her book, Diary of a Raw Pregnancy, is on hold btw. Sara xx > A good sign of health is that these children are developing slower and > are smaller than today's unhealthy children. I think Karen should read > those pages and stop trying to have her child be like the average sick > westernized child. It's tough to know what to do if you don't have the > right information. I hope someone forwards this info to her and that she > gets Dr. Fuhrman's book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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