Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Hi Everyone. I'd like to check in and let everyone know that my interest in adopting a living foods lifestyle is just as strong as ever. I feel great! Although I completed 3 days of fasting the first time...my goal was to complete 5-7 days and gradually implement live foods into my life. Unfortunately, that my first fast ended with a binge as explained in my last message(#6421). After careful reflection I discovered a few reasons why this may have ocurred. I noticed during my previous 3 day fast that my mental focus and commitment was very calm and enlightening. However, when I'd post in the group or talk with family members the differing opinions caused me to feel overwhelmed and rigid which may have assisted my urge to binge(since I have a history of being a compulsive overeater). I am the one to blame for that. My enthusiasm got the best of me. Everyone here is awesome and the advice offered by each and everyone of you has been truly invaluable. However, information overload began to stagnate my efforts and I began to ignore the wisdom of my own body and inner thoughts. One thing I've learned the last few weeks is that although there are basic guidelines of healthy nutrition for everyone...our bodies are constantly changing, evolving, and rejuvenating. I honestly feel each person has a different biochemical makeup based on their environment, past history, stress level, and much more. What works for some does not work for all. I also firmly believe that fasting is a truly private, personal, and spiritual experience. Thus, I felt the need to limit my posting and numerous questions here in the group during my second fasting attempt. Although many disagreed, I strongly believe that eating fruit after my last 3 day fast was not appropriate for ME. The fruit seemed to trigger a desire for starchy carbs. I discovered during my second fast, which I had suspected previously, that green leafy vegetables are a better alternative for ME when concluding a fast. As my bodychemistry, acidic levels, and health improves my reaction to fruit may be different. However, at this point I have chosen to listen to my body and eat fruits in moderation. I've decided that I will occasionally review the opinions and suggestions from others, but ultimately I will make choices based on my needs and will precede based on how I feel mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually after eating certain foods. Of course there will be times when I may misinterpret what my body is telling me, however, experience is the greatest teacher, and with all of you here I believe my mistakes will be minimal. I have decided to embrace advice which works for me, and leave that which does not. In a group of this size with so many intelligent and health conscious friends it is very easy to encounter information overload with the differing opinions. The purpose of healing myself is to LIVE and enjoy the simple pleasures of life. If I become rigid by striving to perfect my eating habits I would deny myself peace of mind and will turn a lifestyle change into a diet which is not what I desire. I suspect my eating patterns will eventually become predominantly raw but will occasionally incorporate modest choices from cooked vegan meals or other non-living foods in the beginning. Again, I'm still learning and changing, and only time and growth will truly determine what is best for me. The bottom line is that I've lived this unhealthy life for 35 years, so any positive change will surely reap rewards. If it takes me 6 months or even a year to go completely raw I will have succeeded and made great strides naturally. Anyway, I successfully completed a six day fast the second time around and ended my fast on the seventh day with a light salad and other green veggies. I am currently still seeking living food recipes and feel that I'm off to a good start. Also, my son fasted with me and he has decided to make the slow but steady transition to raw foods as well. I'm very excited and happy about that. I'll check in when questions arise and to keep everyone updated on my progress. Thanks everyone for being such a great help. I'm happy I found this group. If anyone is near the chicago north west burbs and would like an offline friend or email buddy, don't hesitate to contact me. I'm 35 years of age, African-American, a single parent of one teenager, and my goals are fat loss, spiritual enlightenment, and growth in all areas of my life. Looking forward to making new friends on my this journey. Lili p.s. Roger I received your email suggesting that I not post so many board messages because it makes it difficult for you to monitor the group...I apologize for the inconvience and I see that things have slowed down tremendously since I've been away...I guess I was becoming a bit of a board hog....lol...I guess the timing of my decision works out for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Lili, It strikes me that you are a model case. " If it takes me 6 months or even a year to go completely raw I will have succeeded and made great strides naturally. " In my opinion to move faster should be reserved for the young and already clean living. I am convinced and wager, as said in the eighteenth century, (I do not gamble money), that you will reach your target. The benefits will be more amazing to you, than to the " reader on the fringe " . To those of us who have been tested by the shifting sands of going 100% raw, your music is resonant. Stay on course and a great experience is ahead. Soon be time to say Happy Christmas! Peter Lili [ladyschaumburg] 09 December 2003 18:14 rawfood [Raw Food] Lili's Recent Update: Feeling Great! Hi Everyone. I'd like to check in and let everyone know that my interest in adopting a living foods lifestyle is just as strong as ever. I feel great! Although I completed 3 days of fasting the first time...my goal was to complete 5-7 days and gradually implement live foods into my life. Unfortunately, that my first fast ended with a binge as explained in my last message(#6421). After careful reflection I discovered a few reasons why this may have ocurred. I noticed during my previous 3 day fast that my mental focus and commitment was very calm and enlightening. However, when I'd post in the group or talk with family members the differing opinions caused me to feel overwhelmed and rigid which may have assisted my urge to binge(since I have a history of being a compulsive overeater). I am the one to blame for that. My enthusiasm got the best of me. Everyone here is awesome and the advice offered by each and everyone of you has been truly invaluable. However, information overload began to stagnate my efforts and I began to ignore the wisdom of my own body and inner thoughts. One thing I've learned the last few weeks is that although there are basic guidelines of healthy nutrition for everyone...our bodies are constantly changing, evolving, and rejuvenating. I honestly feel each person has a different biochemical makeup based on their environment, past history, stress level, and much more. What works for some does not work for all. I also firmly believe that fasting is a truly private, personal, and spiritual experience. Thus, I felt the need to limit my posting and numerous questions here in the group during my second fasting attempt. Although many disagreed, I strongly believe that eating fruit after my last 3 day fast was not appropriate for ME. The fruit seemed to trigger a desire for starchy carbs. I discovered during my second fast, which I had suspected previously, that green leafy vegetables are a better alternative for ME when concluding a fast. As my bodychemistry, acidic levels, and health improves my reaction to fruit may be different. However, at this point I have chosen to listen to my body and eat fruits in moderation. I've decided that I will occasionally review the opinions and suggestions from others, but ultimately I will make choices based on my needs and will precede based on how I feel mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually after eating certain foods. Of course there will be times when I may misinterpret what my body is telling me, however, experience is the greatest teacher, and with all of you here I believe my mistakes will be minimal. I have decided to embrace advice which works for me, and leave that which does not. In a group of this size with so many intelligent and health conscious friends it is very easy to encounter information overload with the differing opinions. The purpose of healing myself is to LIVE and enjoy the simple pleasures of life. If I become rigid by striving to perfect my eating habits I would deny myself peace of mind and will turn a lifestyle change into a diet which is not what I desire. I suspect my eating patterns will eventually become predominantly raw but will occasionally incorporate modest choices from cooked vegan meals or other non-living foods in the beginning. Again, I'm still learning and changing, and only time and growth will truly determine what is best for me. The bottom line is that I've lived this unhealthy life for 35 years, so any positive change will surely reap rewards. If it takes me 6 months or even a year to go completely raw I will have succeeded and made great strides naturally. Anyway, I successfully completed a six day fast the second time around and ended my fast on the seventh day with a light salad and other green veggies. I am currently still seeking living food recipes and feel that I'm off to a good start. Also, my son fasted with me and he has decided to make the slow but steady transition to raw foods as well. I'm very excited and happy about that. I'll check in when questions arise and to keep everyone updated on my progress. Thanks everyone for being such a great help. I'm happy I found this group. If anyone is near the chicago north west burbs and would like an offline friend or email buddy, don't hesitate to contact me. I'm 35 years of age, African-American, a single parent of one teenager, and my goals are fat loss, spiritual enlightenment, and growth in all areas of my life. Looking forward to making new friends on my this journey. Lili p.s. Roger I received your email suggesting that I not post so many board messages because it makes it difficult for you to monitor the group...I apologize for the inconvience and I see that things have slowed down tremendously since I've been away...I guess I was becoming a bit of a board hog....lol...I guess the timing of my decision works out for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Lili, I was just thinking about you. You sound great ! It's good to hear that you are still at it, and realize that it will take some time. I agree with you that the advise can feel overwhelming. Some of the folks on this forum are very advanced, and might have forgotten what it was like to be stuck at the KFC stage. I think the newcomer should just stuff as much raw food into their mouths as possible, and not worry about form. It's a big adjustment for a body to get used to such an about face. As you progress, I think you will find this forum more and more helpful. There are some bright, committed raw folks on this forum. Best of luck, and please keep us posted on your progress; good or bad. Keep at it, it might take a while to get going, but I assure you it's worth it. Rufus New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Hi Lili Nice to hear from you again; >Thus, I felt the need to limit my posting and numerous questions here in the group during my second fasting attempt. = I noticed before that you would send several messages but could have put all the content in one. So if you write as often as you want but on the same email and send once a day, that would work for all. If you are hesitant about fruit but intend more raw green vegetables you could start there now. Go find a head of organic kale and just munch on one leaf at a time for snacks or premeal appetiser. rusty - " Lili " <ladyschaumburg <rawfood > Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:13 AM [Raw Food] Lili's Recent Update: Feeling Great! > Hi Everyone. I'd like to check in and let everyone know that my > interest in adopting a living foods lifestyle is just as strong as > ever. I feel great! Although I completed 3 days of fasting the first > time...my goal was to complete 5-7 days and gradually implement live > foods into my life. Unfortunately, that my first fast ended with a > binge as explained in my last message(#6421). After careful > reflection I discovered a few reasons why this may have ocurred. > > I noticed during my previous 3 day fast that my mental focus and > commitment was very calm and enlightening. However, when I'd post in > the group or talk with family members the differing opinions caused > me to feel overwhelmed and rigid which may have assisted my urge to > binge(since I have a history of being a compulsive overeater). I am > the one to blame for that. My enthusiasm got the best of me. > > Everyone here is awesome and the advice offered by each and everyone > of you has been truly invaluable. However, information overload began > to stagnate my efforts and I began to ignore the wisdom of my own > body and inner thoughts. One thing I've learned the last few weeks is > that although there are basic guidelines of healthy nutrition for > everyone...our bodies are constantly changing, evolving, and > rejuvenating. I honestly feel each person has a different biochemical > makeup based on their environment, past history, stress level, and > much more. What works for some does not work for all. I also firmly > believe that fasting is a truly private, personal, and spiritual > experience. Thus, I felt the need to limit my posting and numerous > questions here in the group during my second fasting attempt. > > Although many disagreed, I strongly believe that eating fruit after > my last 3 day fast was not appropriate for ME. The fruit seemed to > trigger a desire for starchy carbs. I discovered during my second > fast, which I had suspected previously, that green leafy vegetables > are a better alternative for ME when concluding a fast. As my > bodychemistry, acidic levels, and health improves my reaction to > fruit may be different. However, at this point I have chosen to > listen to my body and eat fruits in moderation. > > I've decided that I will occasionally review the opinions and > suggestions from others, but ultimately I will make choices based on > my needs and will precede based on how I feel mentally, physically, > emotionally, and spiritually after eating certain foods. Of course > there will be times when I may misinterpret what my body is telling > me, however, experience is the greatest teacher, and with all of you > here I believe my mistakes will be minimal. I have decided to embrace > advice which works for me, and leave that which does not. In a group > of this size with so many intelligent and health conscious friends it > is very easy to encounter information overload with the differing > opinions. > > The purpose of healing myself is to LIVE and enjoy the simple > pleasures of life. If I become rigid by striving to perfect my eating > habits I would deny myself peace of mind and will turn a lifestyle > change into a diet which is not what I desire. I suspect my eating > patterns will eventually become predominantly raw but will > occasionally incorporate modest choices from cooked vegan meals or > other non-living foods in the beginning. Again, I'm still learning > and changing, and only time and growth will truly determine what is > best for me. The bottom line is that I've lived this unhealthy life > for 35 years, so any positive change will surely reap rewards. If > it takes me 6 months or even a year to go completely raw I will have > succeeded and made great strides naturally. > > Anyway, I successfully completed a six day fast the second time > around and ended my fast on the seventh day with a light salad and > other green veggies. I am currently still seeking living food recipes > and feel that I'm off to a good start. Also, my son fasted with me > and he has decided to make the slow but steady transition to raw > foods as well. I'm very excited and happy about that. I'll check in > when questions arise and to keep everyone updated on my progress. > Thanks everyone for being such a great help. I'm happy I found this > group. > > If anyone is near the chicago north west burbs and would like an > offline friend or email buddy, don't hesitate to contact me. I'm 35 > years of age, African-American, a single parent of one teenager, and > my goals are fat loss, spiritual enlightenment, and growth in all > areas of my life. Looking forward to making new friends on my this > journey. Lili > > p.s. Roger I received your email suggesting that I not post so many > board messages because it makes it difficult for you to monitor the > group...I apologize for the inconvience and I see that things have > slowed down tremendously since I've been away...I guess I was > becoming a bit of a board hog....lol...I guess the timing of my > decision works out for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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