Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > There are so many proofs that one wonders how many more can turn up. Same for Raw Food eating. By that I mean fully Raw and not all these recipes and concoctions I see about. I am glad you wrote the above statement. This is a good point to bring up now and then in the forum, Peter. I would like to clarify when you say fully raw, you mean fresh and whole foods. The type of raw lifestyle of which you speak is to eat foods in their original state and the body will work as intended. The recipes may be full uncooked, yet have lost their vitality to some extent, partial foods such as oils, vinegar or having so many ingredients as to cause indigestion, lots of nuts, etc. I am offering a broader meaning to your " fully raw " statement. Recipes abound in raw books and sites. Not much is mentioned about the fact that the longer one is raw, the less one can tolerate them and the ideal is to eat foods whole, fresh and one at a time. Oils, and other modified foods are no longer perfectly balanced. Powders like green drinks and enzymes are stimulants in that the body must work to process them. I am sold to the belief that after years on the raw food diet, when the body receives its food balanced, gets exercise, sunshine and is rested, it feels the need for nothing else but more whole food. The biggest proof is to actually get on the regimen of which you talk. It speaks all by itself. Raw has many levels for most people. It is indeed ideal to have gone raw the way you have and I struggled much more than you did to get to this place. This forum has sent me in both directions over the past year. I see it as a good thing that you are (perhaps) reinforcing here that to get simpler may be where the spirit yearns to go rather than the gourmet route (for some members). Simpler eating vs. making more recipes – two different ways to fend off cravings. One has a more positive effect on the body, the other helps emotionally. I like the fact that I know what so many of those recipes are like. My kitchen has seen a lot of raw recipe action, and it has added excitement to my life. My family and friends have appreciated my talents. I don't want to do it anymore but I have no regrets and would not discourage anyone here from doing the same unless there were an urgent health issue. If anyone here is on the verge of dying, its less work and you'll need the results faster. Just remember that the Boutenkos (the recipe champions) rarely eat their masterpieces anymore. Miko PS - Peter, I hope you do not mind my taking the liberty to assume your meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Miko, I agree with you. It seems like most of us have to start out eating raw by preparing these recipes. I have really been enjoying finding good tasting recipes to try. However, I can go days by just eating fruit and salads. But then I feel like I need to have something just a little different. Especially, sometimes to have a sunlight burger or something made with nuts. I also enjoy drinking a smoothie every day. I do feel like one always should listen to their bodies. If given half a chance, I believe we will be led on what to eat. Thanks for sharing this with us, just as Peter has. I do think the recipes also is a great way to introduce others to raw eating. One of my problems is finding bowls big enough for my salads. I only have 2 large pasta bowls that I've been using. I need to get more since they get used and I don't always feel like washing one before eating. I had to use a smaller pasta bowl tonight, and it is hard to keep things from falling out. Years ago I never thought I would see the day that I would be eating salads as huge as I am eating now. Viveca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vita-Mix -- For Nutrition You Can Taste! Read my review and get free shipping. http://www.vnetcybermall.com/vitamix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Miko, you have it right. Oils, vinegars, powders, spices, dried nuts and anything that cannot be made without a tool is not " fully raw " . That gets rid of fish and dairy too. Do you fancy taking milk from a wild buffalo? I respect Prof. Gruben's idea (and the above is hers too) that if you cannot make a meal out of a food then it probably is not worth eating. There are a lot of foods that are OK when in transition which is true for most people are in this forum. For example garlic and onions along with high intakes of avocados but later I tended to get into eating mangoes, peel and all, and sometimes the peel with an avocado but now I never eat more than one of those a day and often just one in a week. Humans are obsessed with getting the four corners of the globe in the same mouthful or at least the same meal. Nearly all women feel their utility is diminished if they are not somehow transforming nature's gifts by their hand. They should relax more and have some unwashed vegetables. Peter Miko (Kobasigawa) Nelson [miko_nelson] 30 January 2004 04:38 rawfood [Raw Food] What Fully Raw Means - Peter rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > There are so many proofs that one wonders how many more can turn up. Same for Raw Food eating. By that I mean fully Raw and not all these recipes and concoctions I see about. I am glad you wrote the above statement. This is a good point to bring up now and then in the forum, Peter. I would like to clarify when you say fully raw, you mean fresh and whole foods. The type of raw lifestyle of which you speak is to eat foods in their original state and the body will work as intended. The recipes may be full uncooked, yet have lost their vitality to some extent, partial foods such as oils, vinegar or having so many ingredients as to cause indigestion, lots of nuts, etc. I am offering a broader meaning to your " fully raw " statement. Recipes abound in raw books and sites. Not much is mentioned about the fact that the longer one is raw, the less one can tolerate them and the ideal is to eat foods whole, fresh and one at a time. Oils, and other modified foods are no longer perfectly balanced. Powders like green drinks and enzymes are stimulants in that the body must work to process them. I am sold to the belief that after years on the raw food diet, when the body receives its food balanced, gets exercise, sunshine and is rested, it feels the need for nothing else but more whole food. The biggest proof is to actually get on the regimen of which you talk. It speaks all by itself. Raw has many levels for most people. It is indeed ideal to have gone raw the way you have and I struggled much more than you did to get to this place. This forum has sent me in both directions over the past year. I see it as a good thing that you are (perhaps) reinforcing here that to get simpler may be where the spirit yearns to go rather than the gourmet route (for some members). Simpler eating vs. making more recipes - two different ways to fend off cravings. One has a more positive effect on the body, the other helps emotionally. I like the fact that I know what so many of those recipes are like. My kitchen has seen a lot of raw recipe action, and it has added excitement to my life. My family and friends have appreciated my talents. I don't want to do it anymore but I have no regrets and would not discourage anyone here from doing the same unless there were an urgent health issue. If anyone here is on the verge of dying, its less work and you'll need the results faster. Just remember that the Boutenkos (the recipe champions) rarely eat their masterpieces anymore. Miko PS - Peter, I hope you do not mind my taking the liberty to assume your meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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